View Poll Results: What hit the pentagon?

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  • Missle and yes it was foreign.

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  • Missle and yes it was American.

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  • Plane you dumbass.

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  • IDK i was sick of everything after 3 days of news.

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    Question Here

    This is what I'm talking about.
    This is a quote from:
    http://z15.invisionfree.com/Loose_Ch...showtopic=4133


    The Pentagon Renovations
    Completed on 9/11/2001

    A year’s work finally finished. Dan Fraunfelter counted himself lucky when he landed a job working on the first phase of the massive Pentagon renovation project. When the military complex was originally built, it was constructed in five, chevron-shaped wedges. Each chevron, more than 1 million square feet in size, accommodating roughly 5,000 workers, was designed as a stand-alone building with its own separate utility system. The unique design was meant to make the entire complex stronger (if one section of the building was suddenly disabled, the others could function regularly without disruption.)
    But it also lent itself particularly well to renovation. Even though the Pentagon is massive—larger than three Empire State Buildings, the face on each of the five sides slightly longer than three football fields— the wedge construction allowed engineers to remake the building one, easy-to-close-off section at a time. Contractors could simply move workers, seal off a wedge, and install new features like reinforced steel columns and two-inch-thick blast-resistant windows. Fraunfelter, a 24-year-old who studies architecture part time at Northern Virginia Community College, had long been fascinated by the Pentagon. When his firm, Amec Construction, won the general contract for Wedge 1, he plunged into the job eagerly, anxious to explore every square inch of the physical structure.

    On Sept. 11, the contract officially complete, Fraunfelter was finishing up a few last punch-list items. He arrived on-site at 7 a.m. to prepare for an 8 a.m. tenant meeting. It was a routine job-completion task, a meeting where tenants handed over a list of final fix-it items: touch-up painting, leaking pipes, etc. MSCBC Link

    American Airlines Flight 77 struck the portion of the building that had already been renovated. It was the only area of the Pentagon with a sprinkler system, and it had been reconstructed with a web of steel columns and bars to withstand bomb blasts. The steel reinforcement, bolted together to form a continuous structure through all of the Pentagon's five floors, kept that section of the building from collapsing for 30 minutes--enough time for hundreds of people to crawl out to safety.

    The area struck by the plane also had blast-resistant windows--2 inches thick and 2,500 pounds each--that stayed intact during the crash and fire. It had fire doors that opened automatically and newly built exits that allowed people to get out.

    "This was a terrible tragedy, but I'm here to tell you that if we had not undertaken these efforts in the building, this could have been much, much worse," Evey said. "The fact that they happened to hit an area that we had built so sturdily was a wonderful gift."

    The rest of the Pentagon would not have fared as well.

    The fire that swept through the building caused the greatest damage in an unrenovated section with no sprinkler system, heavy windows or steel reinforcements. But many of the offices there were empty in anticipation of the renovation.

    While perhaps 4,500 people normally would have been working in the hardest-hit areas, because of the renovation work only about 800 were there Tuesday, officials said. [LATimes]

    Most of Marine Aviation had just the weekend before been moved to the "Butler building," an extension of the Pentagon and about 200 yards from where the impact occurred, not nearly as close as their previous offices. [mca-marines.org]


    Normally 5000 people work in [wedge 2], but by September 11 renovation of this second wedge was underway. Three months earlier most of the 5000 employees who work in wedge 2 were relocated to temporary offices elsewhere.


    Look at the death toll now, its nothing. It was higher than I expected, but meh. That was a perfect time to hit that area... And not kill 5,000 people with a plane or a missile. Don't you think terrorist would have known that the building was just being "repaired"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by itismesaj View Post
    It actually only hit three rings, with the outermost section that was hit largely destroyed. That was what my reference point was.

    "
    "Second of all, why would the US fire a missile at the military headquarters?"
    -Either it was planned, or it was a stupid accident.

    'Third of all, why would the US cover up a missile attack from a different country as a plane attack?"
    -The missile came from inside the UnitedStates, and was planned because NORAD would have picked up the unsuspected missile launch.
    "

    But I asked why. There would be no motive for the military to attack the military headquarters.

    And if you look at the diagram of how the plane actually entered the Pentagon like I just did, it makes perfect sense. What conspiracists overlook is the fact that it is *very* possible for the plane to enter like the diagram depicts, since metal gets pretty pliable at those speeds.

    So, I'll stick with the Pentagon 9/11 Report.
    Then watch the video I posted, the reason to attack their own country was to get a furthur step into the Middle East. I hope you do know, that with war, there is a lot of money made. Here are some examples to why they probably did it.
    -To protect the American dollar.
    -Iraq signed contracts with Germans,Russians,French, but not Britian or the United States.
    -Oil is sold in the American dollar.
    -Oil generates the"American war machine"
    -Contractor companies make billions off of war, boeing,aeengineering,etc.
    -To rid of Saddam who didn't want Britian or the United States making money off of their cheap oil.
    -A good excuse to get into a war with Afghanistan.

    There is much more, and please come up with reasons why the United States are in a war with Iraq post proof. Show me the "WMD's" and so on.

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    Because we fucked things up when we sacked their country, and are trying to fix it.

    The American dollar has been on a steady downfall since 2002, and just suffered from a tremendous blow that put it less valuable than the Canadian dollar for the first time in 31 years.

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    Money

    Who cares how much the US Dollar falls... the guys who did it just made more of them then could ever spend.

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    Well, no. Due to tax cuts, not enough money is going back to the government, but the same amount of money is being made. So, you're half right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by itismesaj View Post
    Because we fucked things up when we sacked their country, and are trying to fix it.

    The American dollar has been on a steady downfall since 2002, and just suffered from a tremendous blow that put it less valuable than the Canadian dollar for the first time in 31 years.
    "Because we fucked things up when we sacked their country, and are trying to fix it."
    - I asked for the reasons why the United States went in there the first place, not the reasons why they are still in Iraq.

    "The American dollar has been on a steady downfall since 2002"
    -No, if it were on a steady downfall it would have fallen past the Canadian dollar awhile ago. It went up and down, but not to the point where it dropped past the Canadian.

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    Yes it was a plane that hit it, was it done by the government for purpose of war and reinvasion of iraq and new lands (old imperalist style) probbly, think about it theres all these video's of osama denying doing it, but there is 1 CHEAP LOOKING video of osama saying he did it which could very easily be a fake
    Last edited by Anti-Flag1211; October 12th, 2007 at 08:44 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackZodiac View Post
    "Because we fucked things up when we sacked their country, and are trying to fix it."
    - I asked for the reasons why the United States went in there the first place, not the reasons why they are still in Iraq.

    "The American dollar has been on a steady downfall since 2002"
    -No, if it were on a steady downfall it would have fallen past the Canadian dollar awhile ago. It went up and down, but not to the point where it dropped past the Canadian.
    The United States went to Iraq to "rid the world of evil" as President Bush said.

    And according to the stock quotes as of yesterday (Thursday), a Canadian dollar closed at being worth $1.01 USD.


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    they say the plane ripped 5 light polls clean outa the ground... thats impossible a much larger jet was ripped to pieces by just one ........ i was a skepticist about 9/11 too before i watch "loose change second edition" you can download it from limewire its rly an amazing video . the raw amount of proof in undeniable


    in the video saying osama did it it not only didnt look like him but he was wearing a gold ring . its against his religion to wear gold and the US says he did it for his religion, which the current religious leader abhorred all acts of violence and he always said he was following those rules so you do the math
    Last edited by marcraft; October 13th, 2007 at 09:02 AM. Reason: osama video oppinnion

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