I recently thought of this concept:

Mankind is without a doubt, imperfect and obviously flawed. In the beginning (in evolutionary terms), we were nothing but singled cells with no other function but to survive and reproduce to spread our DNA. Afterward, we became multi-celled organisms with the same basic concept yet more powerful defenses against the world. Due to the diversity of our DNA, we became less susceptible to the diseases and "weapons" of our enemy cells and bacteria.

Eventually we became a human being. Once we became "human", we created language, mathematics, science, theories, and overall concepts of the world. I say "created" because before mankind, the world knew nothing of these things. Before us, never were there any organisms thinking "Hmm....I wonder what 15/7 is equal to."

Now humans are naturally flawed, and thus destined to fail, unless we can continue our cycle of adapting and evolving. Anyways, when working with any mathematical or scientific concept, there is always the chance of human error. Because we, as humans, are erroneous, does that mean our concepts are null? Does math really exist or did we create it. If so, doesn't that mean that math is flawed as well? Because math is our foundation of science (chemisty, physics, etc.) doesn't that mean our science is flawed as well? If our science is flawed than our application of science is as well. This includes all technology, both modern and old.

In the end, we are all basically trying to continue our original plan. Survive and evolve. Dominate other life forms and become the strongest. If we are using flawed concepts to achieve superiority, doesn't that mean we will eventually fail? I don't mean we will be overran by the fish or conquered by a new species of gopher, but we're susceptible to our own demise. Because we rely on such erroneous materials, won't we eventually lose this fight unless we evolve into more intellectual, rational beings?

WRONG WRONG WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

before humans were the dinosuars and they were waaaaay more advanced with super computers and spaceships and sex toys! they just sat in the feilds and ate grass and mushrooms and just figured out life.


but humans of course we are flawed everything is flawd. we are animals with developed brains... in some areas for the most part we run off of baisic instinct. we eat, sleep, and fuck.
if there is a problem we either run or fight(in some form)

you could actually say because of this we are not flawed in a sense because we still act like animals.. which we are.


and if some one brings up war.. humans arent the only species that wage war. ants do too, and they actually take slaves.

also bottle nosed dolphins kill for fun.

lions kill cuns to have sex with the mother.

chimps will sometimes, although the are normillay herbavourse, will tear the baby from the mothers arms, eat it and share it with the rest of the group.

just examples of other species who you could say are "flawed"

All life in some way is flawed and imperfect. If there was perfection in the universe it would never change at all because it would have achieved perfection. And as we see all life changes and evolves as does everything. So the point of singling humans out of the entire universe is rather small sighted seeing as everything is imperfect.

Well of course all life is flawed.

My implied question was: Is our mathematics, sciences, languages, etc. flawed as well? (Because they're just abstracts created by our imperfect minds)

Of course our mathematics,science,languages are imperfect since they were created by imperfect beings. And they are still changing so obviously they are not perfect. Also I forget the equation but in math there's a way to make 0=1 or 1=2 proving that it's pretty much bullshit but just happens to work in certain cases. So overall if it has to change it is not perfect.

i agree to have perfection everything would stop evolving ...but then comes the question what is perfection...could it be sex, drugs and rockn'roll... or could it simply be death?...we should not think of things like this it makes the world seem so infinate and overwhelmingly impossible

0=1 or 1=2 are mere invalid proofs. I looked that up and the first thing that came up was this
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invalid_proof
This link will disprove those equations you just said

Rules .

thou art necro posting.
please stop.

Our science and our maths is defiantly flawed!

When I was at school Earth had 1 moon and Pluto was a planet. Now I've learnt that earth actually has 5 moons and Pluto is no longer classed as a planet because its just a ball of ice with no land mass.

I've also fallen into countless arguments with my maths and science teachers because we would be working through an equation and they'd say to divide everything by 3 and I'd ask where that 3 came from when it wasn't in the original equation. They'd say "just because it is, you just divide it by 3" I could never understand that some guy was sat in a room and just decided that this was how you worked out pie and he just choose that number and it happened to work.

Also some of our technology is also flawed. They build a plane. They can fly and plane. But the they can't explain why it fly! What kind of logic is that?!