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Old December 11th, 2008   #71
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ok...

intelligent design doesn't have to be about Christianity. If Bobby Henderson wants to believe the force behind intelligent design is a bunch of pasta he can do that. There is no special treatment, it is simply pointing out the fact that complex life forms are too advanced to have happened accidentally. Nothing at all about Christ or god or anything supernatural in there.
I think you misunderstood that part, or I wasn't clear. It doesn't matter....


Anyway, I have to admit I never really looked into ID because i just assumed it was Christians trying to get Christianity taught in schools. So I googled it.

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Intelligent design is the assertion that: "... certain features of the universe and of living things are best explained by an intelligent cause, not an undirected process such as natural selection."[1][2] It is a modern form of the traditional teleological argument for the existence of God, modified to avoid specifying the nature or identity of the designer.[3] The idea was developed by a group of American creationists who reformulated their argument in the creation-evolution controversy to circumvent court rulings that prohibit the teaching of creationism as science.[4][5][6] Intelligent design's leading proponents, all of whom are associated with the Discovery Institute, a politically conservative think tank,[7][8] believe the designer to be the God of Christianity.[9][10] Advocates of intelligent design argue that it is a scientific theory,[11] and seek to fundamentally redefine science to accept supernatural explanations.[12]
I believe that's pretty much what i said in my post. I feel less special now that I realize I wasn't the first person to to type out this argument.
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Even though the driving force behind making it legal is primarily christian, that doesn't mean you have to be christian to believe in intelligent design. It could be aliens, pasta, or Christ. It all depends on what you want to believe.

and its not like you must study intelligent design, it's just about making it an option to study it in school legally
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I'm trying to think of it like that but I cant. This is Christians trying to teach Christianity in school. That's the only thing this looks like to me. How did ID go from non-existent to totally acceptable as science in just a couple years? There is politics(Christianity) involved here, that's why.
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well didn't evolution go from non existent to acceptable science in just a few years?

and even if it is mostly politics, why do you feel so threatened by it? How would someone studying ID hurt you in any way?
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I don't know how long evolution took to become respected, I was hoping you didn't know either. lol


I hate how Christianity is by and far the accepted religion of the u.s. This ID is only gonna make it worse.
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well didn't evolution go from non existent to acceptable science in just a few years?
Are you fucking serious? The origin of the Species was published about 150 years ago. Darwin and Wallace were houded for many, many years by the church to renounce their views. To this day it's still a hotly debated topic.

Read all my earlier posts, they give brilliant insight into the flaws of creation and intelligent design.

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Just because it wasn't accepted by everyone the day it started doesn't mean it doesn't fit into the category of 'a few years'. I assume you mean Catholicism by the church, and Catholicism oppressed other Christians too. So I don't know what your point was...

I'm sure I've read at least most of your posts on creationism and ID.

and just like I said to Buddha, people studying ID doesn't hurt you in any way so why keep it illegal to teach in school? Even if it is flawed its not like you have to study it. Its just about giving other people the chance to.
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Religion is'nt supposed to be taught in schools. ID is religion.
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we are all the product of an astronomical anomaly. we are even lucky to be here, not saying that there isnt an intellgiant being behind it, because i like to think theres something greater than us
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Just because it wasn't accepted by everyone the day it started doesn't mean it doesn't fit into the category of 'a few years'. I assume you mean Catholicism by the church, and Catholicism oppressed other Christians too. So I don't know what your point was...

I'm sure I've read at least most of your posts on creationism and ID.

and just like I said to Buddha, people studying ID doesn't hurt you in any way so why keep it illegal to teach in school? Even if it is flawed its not like you have to study it. Its just about giving other people the chance to.
intelligent design is religion. also!, it's scientifically unfounded, so it shouldnt be taught in school. if you can find scientific evidence that confirms ID, then ill be happy to let it be taught. there's no science behind it, tho....that's not to say it's wrong, but that's what's required for it to be taught in an academic environment. you can stick to teaching it in church, until you have that scientific backing....it's either that, or you allow it to be taught as history, which means teaching children about the history of multiple religions in one class, and not the beliefs of that history.
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