All that is necessary for evil to succeed is that good people do nothing! Support Act for America

Evolution vs. Creation vs. Intelligent Design - Anarchist Cookbook
Anarchist Cookbook  

Go Back   Anarchist Cookbook > What Ever > Bullshit > Enlightened Individuals

Enlightened Individuals Click here to visit this social group

View Poll Results: How did life come about?
Evolution 53 64.63%
Creation 15 18.29%
Intelligent Design 14 17.07%
Voters: 82. You may not vote on this poll

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old August 20th, 2008   #1
numerator-91
Banned
Points: 11,344, Level: 46
Points: 11,344, Level: 46 Points: 11,344, Level: 46 Points: 11,344, Level: 46
Activity: 0%
Activity: 0% Activity: 0% Activity: 0%
 

Last Online: April 5th, 2009 11:11 PM
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: NSW- Australia
Posts: 2,805
Cash Credits: 47,487
numerator-91 RSS Feed
Evolution vs. Creation vs. Intelligent Design

I reckons there's probably an evolution thread somewhere out there in th e oblivion that is 'bullshit' but i figured I'd start one here for good measure.
What do you believe or think to be of life on earth, was it Evolution? Or Creation? Or was it Intelligent Design? Personall i say evolution, what i think is probaly the most defining proof of evolution is the eye. For those who are not familiar with the photoreceptor structure of the eye allow me to elaborate, on the inner most layer of the eye (the retina) houses some 130 million photoreceptor cells (rods & cones) and these cells are connected to the optic nerve via ganglion and bipolar cells. How does this favour evolution? Well the photoreceptor cells (rods & cones) sit behind the ganglion and bipolar cells. this means that when a light impulse travels through the eye and into the photreceptor cells it must pass the bipolar and ganglion cells then be electrochemically sent back into the bipolar and ganglions. This is what causes what is known as a 'blind spot' in that because the optic nerve is already at the back of the eye, no photoreceptors can be located there. Surely if there were some great omnipotent being that created life or dictated its progresion it would have taken a little more care with developing one of the main sensory organs. If the photoreceptor cells sat infront of the ganglion and bipolar cells they could be distributed across the whole eye and therefore no blindspot. There are many other more mainstream evolution ideas but i believe that to be one of the most condemning for creation and intelligent design.
Sorry if that was a bit long winded but it needed proper context. If you are unsure of anything i have just said tell me and i will try and better explain possibly with diagrams
numerator-91 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old August 20th, 2008   #2
Nuba
Member
Points: 214, Level: 4
Points: 214, Level: 4 Points: 214, Level: 4 Points: 214, Level: 4
Activity: 0%
Activity: 0% Activity: 0% Activity: 0%
 
Nuba's Avatar
 

Last Online: January 6th, 2009 08:23 PM
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Cushing, Ok
Age: 21
Posts: 43
Cash Credits: 1,058
Nuba RSS Feed
Send a message via MSN to Nuba
Evolution seems like a fine theroy but it sometimes seems to have some weakspots. For instance the creator of the Theory of Evolution Charles Darwin tried to back out of his own theory....probably under some pressure from the religious type...but lets not get into that. For me I seem to think that intelligent design would be the more logical way life came about. I once saw a movie and they demonostrated it like this. Take a part a watch and put all the peices into a box....shake the box all you like but the watch isn't going to assemble itself. Meaning that just because all the peices were there didn't mean it just happened....something had to kickstart it. I could be a diety or hell evolution could have actually happened and all those people believing in religion are just fools gathered together like bugs to a bug zapper.....who knows....
__________________
There isn't a problem in the world that can't be solved by the proper application of explosives.
Nuba is offline   Reply With Quote
Old August 20th, 2008   #3
c73
Member
Points: 1,394, Level: 14
Points: 1,394, Level: 14 Points: 1,394, Level: 14 Points: 1,394, Level: 14
Activity: 0%
Activity: 0% Activity: 0% Activity: 0%
 
Sumo Soccer Wedgy Champion!
Monkey Mayhem Champion!

Last Online: March 2nd, 2009 05:39 PM
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Fuckville
Age: 18
Posts: 307
Cash Credits: 4,759
c73 RSS Feed
Everything is to intricate and works together to perfectly to be the result of a chance bang in the universe. Just my opinion though.
__________________
And so the lion fell in love with the lamb. What a stupid lamb. What a sick masochistic lion.
c73 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old August 20th, 2008   #4
Shanx
Member
Points: 2,040, Level: 18
Points: 2,040, Level: 18 Points: 2,040, Level: 18 Points: 2,040, Level: 18
Activity: 13%
Activity: 13% Activity: 13% Activity: 13%
 
Shanx's Avatar
 

Last Online: 1 Day Ago 04:41 PM
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Earth
Age: 15
Posts: 517
Cash Credits: 7,187
Shanx RSS Feed
Send a message via AIM to Shanx
mmm...i do think that evolution has the most evidence but i dont know why i always think that there was a creator.. I dunno. Im not a religious person and i dont picture this being like in the bible or any of that stuff.

Personally, I sort of believe in both. but its kind of hard to explain in my view. I just take it that anything is possible and that you should never doubt any theory completely. Everything is a possibility because no one really knows for sure.
__________________
Tempus omnia sed memorias privat.
Shanx is offline   Reply With Quote
Old August 20th, 2008   #5
Cannon D
Member
Points: 1,909, Level: 17
Points: 1,909, Level: 17 Points: 1,909, Level: 17 Points: 1,909, Level: 17
Activity: 0%
Activity: 0% Activity: 0% Activity: 0%
 

Last Online: 13 Hours Ago 03:54 PM
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 267
Cash Credits: 5,452
Cannon D RSS Feed
Quote:
Originally Posted by Shanx View Post
mmm...i do think that evolution has the most evidence but i dont know why i always think that there was a creator.. I dunno. Im not a religious person and i dont picture this being like in the bible or any of that stuff.

Personally, I sort of believe in both. but its kind of hard to explain in my view. I just take it that anything is possible and that you should never doubt any theory completely. Everything is a possibility because no one really knows for sure.
i agree with what he said
Cannon D is offline   Reply With Quote
Old August 20th, 2008   #6
SuperSkunk
Senior Member
Points: 6,962, Level: 35
Points: 6,962, Level: 35 Points: 6,962, Level: 35 Points: 6,962, Level: 35
Activity: 0%
Activity: 0% Activity: 0% Activity: 0%
 
SuperSkunk's Avatar
 

Last Online: September 27th, 2008 09:42 AM
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: NH
Age: 19
Posts: 1,956
Cash Credits: 7,289
SuperSkunk RSS Feed
Evolution for sure. Just the thought of a god creating everything is irrational in my eyes.

Religion and all that jazz is a reason for the weak minded ones to hang under the banner of the manipulative ones.
__________________
Sex, Drugs, Rock and Roll
SuperSkunk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old August 20th, 2008   #7
crazyassmetalhead
Senior Member
Points: 5,491, Level: 31
Points: 5,491, Level: 31 Points: 5,491, Level: 31 Points: 5,491, Level: 31
Activity: 37%
Activity: 37% Activity: 37% Activity: 37%
 
crazyassmetalhead's Avatar
 

Last Online: 3 Hours Ago 01:11 AM
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Melbourne, Florida, USA come get me motherfuckers
Posts: 1,356
Cash Credits: 30,140
crazyassmetalhead RSS Feed
Send a message via AIM to crazyassmetalhead
you fucking idiots we were all made out of clay then god breathed into us and we became alive.............duh.

i actually like the ancient astronaut theory (or whatever it's called)
the one where aliens came to earth fucked the neanderthals into something smarter, taught them some shit, and made us their slaves (explains a lot of the origin stories and such) then left....... does explain some shit but theres no concrete proof

evolution obviously happens but i don't think life just catalyzed on its own, as for there being a creator......maybe, idk
__________________
"some day you will die somehow and somethings gonna steal your carbon"
crazyassmetalhead is offline   Reply With Quote
Old August 21st, 2008   #8
techtiger
Member
Points: 5,029, Level: 30
Points: 5,029, Level: 30 Points: 5,029, Level: 30 Points: 5,029, Level: 30
Activity: 0%
Activity: 0% Activity: 0% Activity: 0%
 
techtiger's Avatar
 

Last Online: 3 Weeks Ago 09:45 AM
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Wi
Posts: 975
Cash Credits: 15,792
techtiger RSS Feed
i have posted my fealings on this in one of the political threads... ill find it eventually
techtiger is offline   Reply With Quote
Old August 21st, 2008   #9
Shanx
Member
Points: 2,040, Level: 18
Points: 2,040, Level: 18 Points: 2,040, Level: 18 Points: 2,040, Level: 18
Activity: 13%
Activity: 13% Activity: 13% Activity: 13%
 
Shanx's Avatar
 

Last Online: 1 Day Ago 04:41 PM
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Earth
Age: 15
Posts: 517
Cash Credits: 7,187
Shanx RSS Feed
Send a message via AIM to Shanx
Quote:
Originally Posted by crazyassmetalhead View Post

i actually like the ancient astronaut theory (or whatever it's called)
the one where aliens came to earth fucked the neanderthals into something smarter, taught them some shit, and made us their slaves (explains a lot of the origin stories and such) then left....... does explain some shit but theres no concrete proof
oh yeah i forgot about this lol. yeah it seems a lot more logical than a creator i think.
__________________
Tempus omnia sed memorias privat.
Shanx is offline   Reply With Quote
Old August 21st, 2008   #10
numerator-91
Banned
Points: 11,344, Level: 46
Points: 11,344, Level: 46 Points: 11,344, Level: 46 Points: 11,344, Level: 46
Activity: 0%
Activity: 0% Activity: 0% Activity: 0%
 

Last Online: April 5th, 2009 11:11 PM
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: NSW- Australia
Posts: 2,805
Cash Credits: 47,487
numerator-91 RSS Feed
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nuba View Post
Evolution seems like a fine theroy but it sometimes seems to have some weakspots. For instance the creator of the Theory of Evolution Charles Darwin tried to back out of his own theory....probably under some pressure from the religious type...but lets not get into that. For me I seem to think that intelligent design would be the more logical way life came about. I once saw a movie and they demonostrated it like this. Take a part a watch and put all the peices into a box....shake the box all you like but the watch isn't going to assemble itself. Meaning that just because all the peices were there didn't mean it just happened....something had to kickstart it. I could be a diety or hell evolution could have actually happened and all those people believing in religion are just fools gathered together like bugs to a bug zapper.....who knows....
the watch analogy is flawed in that your starting way too advanced and a watch bears no relevence on any lifeform, the watch parts will not join together because there is no reason for them to. they do mot need to metabolise and recycle organic material to continue their existence. after all a broken watch is a series of inanimate pieces that never have and never will be alive.
Q.E.D bitch
numerator-91 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
o_o


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:04 AM.


Powered by Anarchy and vBulletin® Version 3.7.5
Copyright ©2000 - 2009, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
vBCredits v1.4 Copyright ©2007 - 2008, PixelFX Studios