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Old June 24th, 2006   #11
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only reason any drug is illegal is because of racism. for example, when coke was legal people said cocaine crazed niggers. there were some stories that when black men took coke they would rape white girls and they gained superhuman strength so police couldn't stop them. then some people got it banned. there's little stories like this for all illegal drugs. now the government won't repeal the laws because they don't have the balls to admit they made a mistake. especially after all the billions they spent on fighting drugs and all the anti drug policies started in other countries.
OH MY GOD THAT IS THE STUPIDEST THING I HAVE EVER HEARD.
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Old June 24th, 2006   #12
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Agreed.
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omg. no fucking way. when do i ever talk shit? pot is illegal because people tought it was a mexican custom and it increased violence and it was making the innocent american children act like those evil mexicans. so it got banned. the harmful thing is some new bull they came up with recently to keep the shit illegal. the argument is stupid because there are many legal products which are far more harmful.
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Wait, are you on drugs right now??

Because that is some conspiracy b.s. that you are talking about.
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dude. i've been sober for a long time. i can't really remember since when but it's been a while. it's not some conspiracy bs. it's fact. same way people say video games make kids violent and increase crime rates and we all know that's bs. some video games are banned in some countries on that basis. the exact same shit happened with drugs. some rumors scared all the parents and they bitched at the politicians. then the politicians were scared of losing votes and banned all this crap.
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yeah dude he is completly right with the coke thing and also black jazz musicians would smoke pot before they played and they got a bunch of white woman which pissed white men off and the chinese people in california had opium dens and opium causes increased sexual desire and the white people thought that chinese were getting white woman high on opium and having sex with them (all from the discovery channel if you question the source)
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Ur right. I saw a documentary on that shit. But than again how come theres no more hippies left? Im on your side bro!
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there are hippies just not alot of them and the funny shit is that the war on drugs spends a shit ton of money and is just making things worse like they actually got drug use to go down somewhat but now inhalent use is going up a SHITTON than drug use has gone down where in the netherlands where it's legal drug use has actually gone down even with weed
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newsflash, weed is SOMEWHAT legal in alaska, goto findlaw.com and check it out. and salvia will always stay legal. The federal analog act generally requires that, in order to qualify as an analog, a substance must be chemically similar to a substance which is federally scheduled. Salvia Divinorum is chemically quite different from other scheduled substances and as a plant is quite unlikely to be targeted by this act.



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the state bills are different tho :shock:
Delaware -
Bill outlawing Salvia divinorum signed on May 02 2006 adds it to schedule I of the Delaware state controlled substances law.
Louisiana -
Effective Aug 8, 2005 (signed into law Jun 28, 2005) Louisiana Act No 159 makes 40 plants illegal, including S. divinorum, when intended for human consumption. The law specifically excludes the "possession, planting, cultivation, growing, or harvesting" of these plants if used "strictly for aesthetic, landscaping, or decorative purposes." bullshit aint it.
Missouri -
On Aug 28, 2005 House Bill 633 was incorporated into 195.017 of Missouri's drug regulation statutes. Thus, Salvia and salvinorin A became Schedule I substances in that state. Missouri is the first state in the U.S. to actually schedule s. divinorum or its active chemical.
St. Peters city passed an ordinance banning sales of Salvia divinorum to minors aged 17 or younger.
HB165 introduced in state legislature, proposing addition of S.divinorum to list of scheduled substances. No hearing scheduled as of Jan 2005. (MO House of Representatives)
New Jersey -
New Jersey lawmakers are reportedly considering a ban of Salvia which i believe was proposed very recently, beginning of May.
New York -
New York is moving to control Salvia divinorum.
Tennessee has made it a class A misdemeanor to "knowingly produce, manufacture, distribute, possess or possess with intent to produce, manufacture, or distribute the active chemical ingredient in the hallucinogenic plant Salvia divinorum A." Along with the strangely-worded caveat that this prohibition does not apply to "the possession, planting, cultivation, growing, or harvesting of such hallucinogenic plant strictly for aesthetic, landscaping, or decorative purposes." The law takes effect on July 1, 2006.




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yeah they decriminalized it in alaska and a few other states but in alaska you can have like over an ounze in your home legally just not outside it and the thing is that when they outlaw salvia they don't actually realize that there are like 60 species of it so they cant tell the differance between them and they probrablly don't know what it looks like to start with
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