yea but they were very influental, their songs are short, fast, simple, and about dumb shit

the essence of punk.....

THANK YOU!!!!!!

not every fucking thing has to have some deep meaning to be punk.

shit you could make a punk song about pissing yourself... people have!

and think of it like this ramalamafafafa. you said punks is pretty much about being non-conformist and not being about lables and rebeling and shit like that.... but look at what youve just done in this thread, you've basically labled what punk is and said a band isnt punk unless they sing about this or rebel against that. you baisically raped what your trying to..... defend?

i see it like this, if it sounds like punk its punk, simple, but like all genres of music there are sub genres and thats how you seperate bands like simple plan from abrasive wheels.

This is gonna sound stupid, but i think punk is dead. Its fucking dead! Ill explain later

it really is, it died in the late 80 and early 90s

im pretty syre the last nail in the coffin was GG Allins death

punk music has been dead for a while now. the shit people call punk now is ridiculously unclever. but the "punk' attitude will never die.
oh and labeling something as punk is going against "punk" beliefs, but i do it all the time(just did) so whatever

Haha wow everyone is really going off on this subject. I only have this to say: I like punk music. I dont care if the songs are short or usually not even what its about. I just love the thrashing loudness of it.

Uhh, The Sex Pistols influenced the Ramones... England influenced Americas Punk Scene.

no Ramones made the sound, the clash shaped it, and the pistols blew finished it off and put it out there

the brits just infuenced the punk look

No, lets not get into this "U.K Versus U.S.A" Bullshit. If it makes you feel any better, the first punk band was The Saints, an Australian band. So there.

The Exploied and Sex Pistol where out before all of the American Punk bands fool...