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roman legionarre with pilum, gladius and scutum 9 45.00%
French fencer with rapier and fencing jacket and pants 2 10.00%
japanese atarashii naginata with bogu 9 45.00%
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Old January 4th, 2009   #1
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East vs. West, foreign blades and tactics

I'm interested in what everyone has to think about these foreign blades and how they would compete against each other. Explain your answer and refrain from using lesser races as your arguement.

Personally i believe that if you put a roman legionarre, A fencer, and a atarashii naginata in an arena, the legionarre would win. The standard roman soldier has a single pilum, a scutum (the shield) and his gladius. The pilum would take out the atarashii bogu and make complex naginata movements impossible without taking the time to completely remove his or her armour. The roman could then move up to the fencer, break the rapier with his scutum, and behead his adversary with his gladius.
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The fencer would get his ass kicked either way.
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I don't even undertand all that japanese... I'm going to say Roman cuz he could just through his javelin (thats what a pilum is right?) and kill either one of the other guys.
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atarashii is the compiled forms of naginata made into one style. If you were to take a 7 foot solid oak pole, and put the blade of a scimitar onto the end of the pole you would have a naginata. Bogu is the armor worn by atarashii during combat. Does that clarify things for anyone?

And yes, a pilum is basically a javelin except with a very very soft iron head and harder tip. It basically penetrates through armor and then bends around it, making removing a pilum next to impossible without completely removing the armour.
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atarashii is the compiled forms of naginata made into one style. If you were to take a 7 foot solid oak pole, and put the blade of a scimitar onto the end of the pole you would have a naginata. Bogu is the armor worn by atarashii during combat. Does that clarify things for anyone?

And yes, a pilum is basically a javelin except with a very very soft iron head and harder tip. It basically penetrates through armor and then bends around it, making removing a pilum next to impossible without completely removing the armour.
...what the fuck do you do all day?

that helped a little, but i'm sticking with the roman pwning

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scutum sounds like scrotum hahahahaha
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Seriously, noone has any faith in the fencer or atarashii?
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i go Jappanese because of the craftsmanship and i like the fighting style of both the samuri and ninja. espesialy the samuri look at the WWII Pacific front of what some of the nips did in those dense jungle terraine and in some house to house fighting.
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The Fencer is out due to the fact that fencing is a sport and not really a killstyle, whereas the atarashii and the legionaire are pretty equal, the legionaire would win though, for one reason, i'm italian and biased, a second reason, the romans pursued their militarial exploits until they had the most useful methods available, we still use some of the roman technology, besides the naginata is a very inefficient weapon against shields, the only use of spears is throwing and range, against a shield only axes and swords, and -to a limited extent- arrows had any effect on a shield, the romans were pursuing many campaigns, against the british and germanic tribes so they would have had pretty effective weapons for a wide variety of environments,
Roman legionaire=awesome
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