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Old February 18th, 2008   #11
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that is something to revolt for
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Old February 18th, 2008   #12
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I am talking of making a stand in what we believe in, making a stand from opression and the total control of the Select few in power. A stand for Peace. If we dont make a stand now we allow the system to take total control of our lives without our consent. I am making a stand for Freedom. Freedom from slavery to come. In the near future everyone in the state will have to have a chip implanted into them to identify them (and also locate them) soon this chip will do more than locate it will have the capablilty to detroy our life if we made any sort of stand against the select few who rule through fear. We see the course the world is taking, The course of a One World Goverment where "Everyone" be subject to the rule of a few Select People. The outcome we want to achieve is to change the course of the worlds headlong rush to destruction. Now is the Revolution.
You have no idea how the world works. People in power can already ruin you with no recourse. Also revolution is a joke. At the moment you probably live in a country that lets you have more freedom and protection than any other country. If you believe there is a single place in the world where a select few couldn't get you dead/ruined/hated then you are retarded.

And thanks for saying you will get me banned if I don't change my post. I did what I thought I should, and if people ignore it, your "important thread" will survive.
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a revolution is only a good idea if you know how to revolt and american ppl are to busy deciding wether to get a number 3 or number 7 at mcdonalds to organize a revolution. if you want a change you have to be willing to live with the suffrage that follows.
"MAKE A CHANGE, MAKE A BOMB"
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you...would be surprised how organized even my very lazy generation can be given a strong enough leader and a strong enough cause

an example of a leader of such caliber is Martin Luther King

believe it or not, a LOT of people capable of his feats exist today, it's just a matter of convincing them it's worth the fight (im sure even MLK had doubts at times)
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i think he sort of wants to go tim mcveigh. o-o
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Ok. The idea of a revolution is not stupid. Raist you are probally the most dumbest kid to ever sign up for anarchist cookbook if you actually believe Revolution or the idea of standing up and fighting for what you believe in is a joke. You took a shit on every revolutionist and every person who made a difference in the world when you made that dumb comment.You have made an enemy by just being ignorant. Dont ever pollute this thread by commenting anymore.
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revolution is not a joke. how could it be a joke when it has happened
before. i agree that i live in a very free country but how long
will that last. i think that even though communism and fascism
is looked down upon generally worldwide it is what many political
leaders would prefer. it gives them unprecedented power to do
what they want and they would get to reap the benefits that the
citizens would be without.
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Ok. The idea of a revolution is not stupid. Raist you are probally the most dumbest kid to ever sign up for anarchist cookbook if you actually believe Revolution or the idea of standing up and fighting for what you believe in is a joke. You took a shit on every revolutionist and every person who made a difference in the world when you made that dumb comment.You have made an enemy by just being ignorant. Dont ever pollute this thread by commenting anymore.
I just want to say that calling someone "most dumbest" makes yourself look like an idiot as well.

Also, Raist has a good point. I myself don't think that the Revolution idea is a joke, but then again I have no idea what exactly you're going to do. I'd like detailed things of how you plan on having this Revolution work, what people need to do, what it will accomplish, etc. It's a lot easier to say what I think about the idea when I know what will be happening.
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True. The idea of starting a revolution is easier said then done. As we both know (kasnia). But still im faced with the fact that a threat in any way to those "select few" is soon destroyed prematurely. We live in a world where soon nothing will escape notice of those who keep a open eye to that which may hinder or threaten their regn of power in any way. Im sure there is a underground revolution under way this exact moment. But they are underground for a good reason. If they were soon found out they would be subject to the wrath of every single american leader who shares the same agenda. "One world Goverment" Where all are subject to that one rule. If we make any sort of stand and pose a threat we will be Destroyed and wiped off the map. No traces left. Raist said the idea of a revolution is a joke. That to me sounded like surrender. And we are still in the position to fight back. You may not see the threat and the forces underway in your daily life that makes you a industrial slave to the system. You pay for their war. with the money you earn. you support there ideas without being consious of it. They have total control of the media and keep you occupied chasing that material dream of more cars jewelerry cellphones etc. They keep you distracted to the major picture. There is no such thing as "Freedom" in the USA. Thats a illusion. I have studied this long and hard and i have alot to say on the subject but when i hear someone take a shit on revolution and the means of change and the fight for our rights as human beings disgusts me. I beleive the means of a Revolution is now. But first we need to see the need for it. Can you see the future getting darker or lighter? Do you see yourself in more control or out of control of your life in the near future? Once you have answered those questions then Pm me Kasnia and we will speak.
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True. The idea of starting a revolution is easier said then done. As we both know (kasnia). But still im faced with the fact that a threat in any way to those "select few" is soon destroyed prematurely. We live in a world where soon nothing will escape notice of those who keep a open eye to that which may hinder or threaten their regn of power in any way. Im sure there is a underground revolution under way this exact moment. But they are underground for a good reason. If they were soon found out they would be subject to the wrath of every single american leader who shares the same agenda. "One world Goverment" Where all are subject to that one rule. If we make any sort of stand and pose a threat we will be Destroyed and wiped off the map. No traces left. Raist said the idea of a revolution is a joke. That to me sounded like surrender. And we are still in the position to fight back. You may not see the threat and the forces underway in your daily life that makes you a industrial slave to the system. You pay for their war. with the money you earn. you support there ideas without being consious of it. They have total control of the media and keep you occupied chasing that material dream of more cars jewelerry cellphones etc. They keep you distracted to the major picture. There is no such thing as "Freedom" in the USA. Thats a illusion. I have studied this long and hard and i have alot to say on the subject but when i hear someone take a shit on revolution and the means of change and the fight for our rights as human beings disgusts me. I beleive the means of a Revolution is now. But first we need to see the need for it. Can you see the future getting darker or lighter? Do you see yourself in more control or out of control of your life in the near future? Once you have answered those questions then Pm me Kasnia and we will speak.
"Never doubt that a small group of committed people can change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has." - Margaret Mead

I'd like to point out this quote, because it's true. If you want to get things done you have to be willing to make a stand and to stand by your statement. Large numbers don't necessarily mean large results, etc.
Just because one person (Raist) decides to speak his mind, exactly what you're doing, doesn't mean anything. He has an opinion and so do you. You have an idea of what you want to do, so go for it. Don't get stuck along the way because you decide that you have to tell someone off for not agreeing with you.

Now, to the main point: I don't think a Revolution is necessarily in order. I'm sure it will be in the future, but I don't think it deserves it at this time. We DO have freedoms. We already have the right to stand up for what we believe in. You can speak up, say what you think, how you feel, and it's legal. I know that America does have certain lack of freedoms, but at least we can say something bad about our President without being killed for it. Also, if someone is wanting to focus more on material possessions rather than what's going on outside of themselves, then they can. It's simple.
Watch the video "If Everyone Cared" by Nickelback. That's where I got my quote from. Look at how much has changed in the past, how things are different in other countries, how good we actually do have it. Someone wants to put a chip in your hand to monitor where you are. yes. That sucks. But imagine how much easier it would be to find any and every criminal, a child who is kidnapped. It is actually a good idea, whether you like it or not.

I don't think the idea for a Revolution is a joke. I just don't think a Revolution is really needed right now.
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