When we as humans date back as far as we can what is the first civilization and/or society we find? (This does not include Christian beliefs, lets be factual here).....Well, incase you do not know, let me enlighten you. When we date back, we get as far back as 10,000 B.C. (The Egyptians) You don't have to take my word for it, but i'm sure you can google it.....Plenty of sources out there.

So, this brings me to the sun.....Yes, the sun, the big round fiery ball up there in space.....What did the egyptians worship? You got it, THE SUN. They had alot of adoration and respect for the sun. Why? Well, every morning it would rise, bring light, warmth, etc. Even they understood without the sun their plants wouldnt grow, fair enough.

Now, it's not just the sun they worshipped, but payed very close attention to the stars, they kept record of the stars, this is how they would date events. What do we have today? Constellations...It was because of their cataloging of the stars we have these constellations.

Ever seen the cross of the zodiac? M'kay i'll try to add a picture incase ye arn't familiar with it, but moving on.....The cross of the zodiac was sort of like the calendar for the egyptians. They used it to record the sun as it circled through the 12 constellations through the period of a year. The cross of the zodiac also represents the 12 months in a year, the 4 seasons, and equinoxes.

The word "Zodiac" meant to be personified, in this case, personified as figures and animals. Which means not only did they follow the zodiac but also personified them as in making up stories and myths for these characters. The most powerful character here is The SUN....Which they called, GODS SUN.

Ok, now things are going to start clicking. Anyone ever heard of Horus? I'm sure many of you have atleast heard of him, and as usual, if ye don't know who he is exactly, i'll tell you, obviously. Horus is the sun God of egypt, came about 3000 B.C. He is the personification of the sun. Horus also had an enemy. We know that enemy to be "SET".......That makes sense right? Sun and Set. Set means darkness. In the morning Horus would rise and bring light, and then nightfall, Set would bring darkness, in the egyptians eyes this was a fight between good and evil.

Now check this shout out yo, and you do not have to believe me if you don't want, but study up for yourself. You wil be glad you did.

Horus was born on Dec. 25th, Born of the virgin isces, his birth was accompanied by a star in th east, which in turn 3 kings followed to adorn the new born savior, at the age of 12 he was a child teacher. At the age of 30 he was baptised and began a ministry. Horus had 12 disciples he traveled about with and performed mircales. These miracles include walking on water and healing the sick. Horus also had a few nicknames such as..."Lamb of God" and "The Light"...After being betrayed Horus was crucified and you guessed it.....Buried for 3 days and resurrected.

Througout time there have been many other mythological Gods with the same kind of historical structure.....To name a few.....

Attis - Greece, 12,000 B.C.
Born on Dec. 25th by a virgin...
Crucified & Resurrected

Krishna - India, 900 B.C.
Born of a vigrin
Saw by a star in the east & Performed Miracles
Reserrurected

Dionysus - Greece, 500 B.C.
Born of a virgin on Dec. 25th
Performed mircales like turning water into wine...
Had the nickname "Alpha and Omega"

Now, i'm not going to do this for every single one, but here are a list of names you can look at for yourself. Mithra, Budha Sakia, Salivahana, Zulis, Orus, Odin, Crite, Zoroaster, Baal, Taut, Indra, Bali, Jao, Wittoba, Thammuz, Atys, Xamolxis, Zoar, Adad, Deva Tat, Alcides, Mikado, Beddru, Hesus, Eros, Thor, Cadmus, Hil, Feta, Gentaut, Ischy, Formosa, Adonis, Ixion....And many many fucking more. And yes, all of these characters share the same attributes.

So now, lets take a look at the latest solar mesiah.....

JESUS CHRIST
Was born of the virgin Mary in bethlehem.....
.....His birth was announced from a star in the east
3 Kings addorned the birth of the new savior.....
.....He was a child teacher at 12, baptised at 30
Performed miracles, was betrayed, crucified.....
.....Buried for 3 days, ressurected, descended into heaven
Blah blah blah....I'm sure you all know the story.

Ok, now i'm going to break this down for you all.....The birth sequence is astrological. The star in the east is "Sirius", the brightest star in the night sky. Which on Dec. 24th aligns with the 3 other brightest stars on orions belt. So what are the 3 stars on Orions belt called? The 3 kings.....DUH And on Dec. 25th, the 3 kings, and sirius all point towards the place of the sunrise on Dec. 25th. This is why the 3 kings follow the star in the east in order to locate the sunrise.....THE BIRTH OF THE SUN/SON.

The virgin mary is also know as the constellation Virgo. The sign for Virgo is..........The altered "M"....Which is why alot of the virgin mothers for all these plenty of characters start with an M....Mary, Myrra, Maya. Virgo is also referred to as the house of bread. A representation of virgo is a women holding wheat. The wheat and bread represent August and September, aka: Time of harvest. As a matter of fact, Bethlehem literally translates to House of Bread.

Something interesting happens on Dec. 25th.....From the summer solstice to the winter solstice, the days become shorter and colder. The suns appears to move south and becomes smaller and scarce...This symbolizes the death of the sun.

Dec. 22,23,24 the sun stops moving south and in this 3 day period the sun moves in the vicsinity of the southern cross, (crux). On dec. 25th the sun starts moving north, which means, longer days, more warmth and blah blah blah.....

And so.....The sun died on the cross, was dead for 3 days, and then, resurrcted. Hmmm. Now we dont celebrate the resurrcedtion of the sun until Easter. Because at the easter equinox the sun officially over powers the "Evil darkness",

Lets take a gander at the 12 disciples now.....Lets skip alot of the technical bullshit and just let me say, fucking obviously the 12 disciples are the 12 constellations.....That Jesus, being the sun, travels about with. How about the number 12 is often repeated throught the bible.....12 tribes of Israel, 12 brothers of Joseph, 12 judges of israel, 12 great patriarchs, 12 O.T. prophets, 12 kings of Israel, 12 princes of Israel, Jesus in the temple at 12.....So yeah, its all astrology....

Ok, another thing that is repeated through the Bible is the "Ages" or the ages, yeah.....Now let me get you a little familiar with the equinoxes before I continue......Precession of the equinoxes.....The egyptians and many other cultures knew that every 2150 years would come a different sign of the zodiac. This has to do with a wobble that the earth does as it rotates it is called a precession because the constellations go backwards instead of forward through the yearly cycle.

Precession of the equinoxes
Aprox:26,000 years
2150 year:age

Like I said, the ancient cultures were very well aware of this and referred every 2150 years an "Age"....From 4300 B.C to 2150 B.C. it was the age of Taurus the bull. Through 2150 B.C. to 180it was the age of Aries the ram. And from 180 to 2150 A.D. it is the age of Pisces, the age that we are still in to this day. And around 2150 we will enter the new age.....The age of aquarius.

Now, the Bible does talk about these 3 ages. In the old testament when Moses comes down with the ten commandments he was very upset to see people worshipping a golden bull. H destroyed the tablet (10 commandments)...What this was, was people worshipping, Taurus the bull. And Moses represents the new age of aeries the ram. Think about it, Jews blow a rams horn.

The stories of Mithra actually say that Mithra killed a bull, yes, Chritianity are not the only ones who have kept record of this. Ok, so after Moses was the age of Pisces, the two fish.

We only have 5 loaves of bread and 2 fish - Matt: 14:17

I'm sure we have all seen the fish symbol on the back of peoples cras that says Jesus in the middle of it.....Ye ye. Jesus's assumed birthdate was actually the beginning of the age of Pisces.

Jesus is asked by his disciples where the next passover will be when he is dead, Jesus Replies.....

Luke 22:10
Behold when ye are entered into the city, there shall a man meet you bearing a pitcher of water, follow him into the house which he entereth in.

This scripture is very revealing.....The man bearing the pitcher of water is Aquarius, pictures of him show him with a pitcher of water, and he represents the age after pisces. Ain't that some shit? So yeah, everybody is saying the world is about to end......

Matthew 28:20
I will be with you even until the end of the world.....

Now, "world" in this verse is a mis-translation, mis-translations is what fucks up the Bible in the first place. the actual word that was supposed to be used was "Aeon", which means, "Age"....I will be with you even until the end of the age.....

Basically, Horus beat Jesus by 15 centuries, hate to break it to ye Christians, but this is fact. Christianity has stolen so many stories from religions before it, the similarities are fucking staggering.

So, thats my Bible study for ye. Just for the record, I DID NOT do all this studying by myself, I just felt like I should have recorded what I have learned. I've watched many videos and read many references to gather all of this information together. And even if you already know about this shit, there wernt any good religion threads to argue anyway, so start this shit.

i aint reading that shit

you dont have to read that, all you have to do is watch zeitgeist. and actually we humans date back much farther than 10,000 b.c.

yeah the second i saw the zodiac thing i was like "zeitgeist" which i think is just shit, sure they may be right but its still shit.

you can interprate it in other ways.

like the reason everything is so common is because "god" made it that way or some shit.....

i dont feel like explaining myself any further

Yuh yuh...... I will not lie, I got ALOT of info. From Zeitgeist.....And yes, it is another college grad video, alot of bullshit, but I took Info. From not only that movie, but alot of other sources.....Like I said, you do not have to read through it, but the conversation is there for whoever wants to make it......Religion is a great subject, not enough of it on here.

So for whoever is interested, its there.

hahahaha dude trust me search through some of the threads theres a shitload of religion talk....... unless all those threads got deleted... iunno.

but at one point we had people saying "enough with the religion threads"

wow, to be non-christian, you sure seemed like you wasted a lot of time doing the research that you did.

Do you seriously believe that Horus was a real God, or are you just referencing?

Also, if you want to make christians look stupid, just google for christian disproofs. Don't get the ones without the full conversation. the christian sites will only give their response and no retaliation from the aethiest. The aethiest sites only give their point of view. It is hard to find a full conversation but it will change the way you think.

Ha, no, I do not believe Horus was a real God, I stated that the egyptians looked at Horus as a real God. And this has nothing to do with me being a Christian or making Christians look stupid. I do believe in a God, just not necessarily the Christian God, I however DO NOT believe in Jesus Christ, or any other characters with the Jesus Christ attributes, nor do I believe in anything the Bible has to offer.

I don't look at this as a waste of time, I have alot of articles like this that I have written and I keep them for my own personal use. As for googling Christian disproofs, I know there are many other arguments out there I just thought I would share this one in specific, obviously many of you have heard it already, so whatever.

FUCK THE WORLD

well thats not exactly true to say that you dont beleive anything the bible has to offer unless your one cold bastard you may not believe in the stories authenticity but you can still recieve a lot of moral lessons from the bible. thou shalt not .............

I use the bible for rolling paper