Originally Posted by DoG MikkyW

Wikipedia is one of the most reliable sources their is. They think just because anyone can change them. But I'll let you in on a secret, they change them back in a matter of seconds. I changed Hilary Clintons wikipedia to say whore, and have arrows point to her picture, by the time I had refreshed it about a minute later, it was all gone, my account deleted, ip banned, and all restored back to perfect neatness. Now, if I did that to a different site, how long would it take for them to fix a mistake like that? I guarantee longer than 1 minute.

Originally Posted by Cuddles

as to god, no, i do not associate my father with god, my father was a moron, who had no control or even influence over my life, because he chose not to. do not ever assume i harbour such feelings for him.

and no, i am very sorry, but the dislocation of god from government has nothing to do with catering to a minority, and everything to do with the fact that government should not be involved in the matters of the human belief system. i am not an atheist, im a me. i do not explicitly believe or not believe in god, i accept that it is possible that there is a god, but anyone who blames a particular event on that god is fucking moronic. anyone who believes that a creature so vastly capable that it could create whole universes in a blink of an eye would want to influence our menial lives for eternity, is fucking fooling themselves. i have no belief that my brain is the largest in the universe, and no desire to call a being with a larger brain than mine god. i also have no desire to mingle politics and human beliefs. what should be upheld by the government, is the right of every human to peacefully have those beliefs, not the right of every human to either believe, or leave the country, as some morons have suggested. and most certainly not the right of any human to use those beliefs to pander to a majority who shares them, and get elected to a seat of power. as well, those beliefs should never influence the policies made. there are countless examples of politicians being influenced by their beliefs, or the beliefs of their constituencies, and only a select few who chose to do what was vastly opposing to their beliefs for the welfare of those governed.

i do not hate god, i do not care about god's existence, short of philosophical ramifications that are examined in conversation for the sole purpose of amusement.

and yes, i had teachers that would automatically fail you if wikipedia or any other wiki was cited as a source.....




dna is not an invention, it's a natural reorganization of matter based upon specific, rare, conditions, which creates strings of nucleic acid, in a double helix formation. it did not inherently have to happen because of god, the conditions even have a relatively high probability of happening in many places in the universe. i do actually believe it's possible that something forced it to happen, but i dont particularly care, it happened, regardless of what caused it or didnt.

Originally Posted by a2thae

So you're more agnostic...and apathetic...

Also, I would argue that dna is an invention of "nature"

Originally Posted by Cuddles

nature cannot invent. invention requires conscious thought, by human definition. and since it's a human word, i will not permit you to claim that our definition is wrong. nature evolves, it does not invent. nature strives to be more complex, yet elegantly simple, in a way that very few humans manage to even come close to. nature's natural evolution is far more amazing than invention. do not chock it up to god, that's fucking boring.

Originally Posted by a2thae

Your argument is based on the assumption that invent requires intelligence, or it requires reasoning. I base my argument that inventing only requires action.



-Merriam-Webster's Dictionary of Law-

By using that definition, we inadvertently invent things all the time. Nature inadvertently invents things as well. Nature invented DNA via evolving. (Evolving is the action which allowed the invention to occur)

You need not a sentient being to invent something.

Originally Posted by Warpurlgis

Basically anarchy is a state of government when it is chaotic because of some kind of overthrow. That being true you can not be an anarchist but in calling yourself one you become an asshat. Plus they average everyday idiot that says their one wouldn't have the ability to put a government into that kind of state, and lets face it "anarchists" are a dip shit minority, let alone overthrow a country.