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View Poll Results: What kind of government is best in regards to economics
Capitalism 56 37.09%
Socialism 30 19.87%
Communism 17 11.26%
Anarchy! 35 23.18%
none of the above (elaborate please) 13 8.61%
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Old July 3rd, 2009   #401
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I never said it did.

Hitler did plenty of evil things besides the holocaust
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standard imperialist fascism. Just like the united states today.
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holy christ god jesus H. , ... this thread lives forever.
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if hitler didnt fry all them jews, modern science wouldnt know how long the average person could survive while on fire. pros n cons for hitler. not the greatest guy in the world, but still quite "great" in a way. you want evil? Barrack husein obama is one evil mofo.
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Are you kidding me? Is someone actually asking this question? If we're talking about the pure forms of these governments, capitalism is practically an economic policy rather than a government. The reason the U.S., a relatively young country, did so amazingly well for so long is because of our capitalistic government. Many fault the US for an abundance of flaws, but keep in mind. We are one of the most intelligent countries in terms of evolutionary speed. We've not only rivaled, but surpassed many countries 50 times our age in the short time this country has existed. Think about it, logically; capitalism is the only form of government (and I hesitate to use that word, because it's not exactly accurate) that endorses a free marked economy, and true capitalism is pro lazie faire (not sure if I spelled that right). Socialism and communism are so similar that they almost could have been listed together. What Karl Marx outlined in his communist manifesto was actually a system of government that follows socialist ideals much more closely than what our understanding of communism is. Which, by the way, those of you that think an actually communist government exists today would be sorely disappointed. In the world, there is no major communist government in place. Those that call themselves communists, like Cuba, China, etc. are actually, if you take the time to look at their structure, dictatorships with a mask on. Anarchy is out of the question, seeing as it implies a state of lawlessness, thus a society without legal tender. And those of you that try to place Hobbes and his social contracts in a anarchist society, are mistaken. A social contract implies a form of government, however insubstantial it may be, thus deviating from true anarchy. The answer is, without a doubt, capitalism. Anyone with any background in politics or economics can see that quite plainly.
For the love of god, please use some fucking logic.

Of course we did exceptionally well technologically in a short time; older countries did the research for us. If the rest of the world is looking in to things to better the future, do you really think we're going to ignore it and start from scratch? I have a feeling that's not how it works. Think of it this way; the U.S. spent years on researching the atomic bomb. After we made it, it took the Soviet Union only 3-6 months ish (too lazy to look it up for more exact timeframe) to get it. Does that mean they are smarter than us? No, it just means they got our research.

Also, what you described was not communism at all. What you described is exactly what you explained; dictatorships with a mask. If that's what he meant by communism, he probably would have made it dictatorship instead. I believe he meant pure communism, and you described that as just a bunch of socialistic ideals. Sadly socialism is based off of power in the govt. while pure communism isn't supposed to have a govt. at all. If your going to compare communism to anything, compare it to anarchy.

You say anarchy can't exist because lawlessness? You think of lawlessness as disorder; I see it as liberty. You're saying people can't exist without a central body telling them what to do. Considering you and I have never seen a community with no central govt., neither of us can say whether it will work or not, so don't pretend you know.
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fuck all this garbage...politics is for pussies, and wallstreet pussies. government has no more uses in america and our poeple WILL BE better off without.
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fuck all this garbage...politics is for pussies, and wallstreet pussies. government has no more uses in america and our poeple WILL BE better off without.
Yeah, I'm sorry but without the government you would have nothing.
I can agree, Obama is 'evil' but politics comes in pretty much when you establish anything...
Without politics, you could compare your life to a nomadic animal roaming around in Africa; Constantly looking for food in groups, fighting for your life, and could easily be killed by something stronger/faster than you.
Like back in the 'nomadic' days of people.

In fact, without the government, it would be the whole "survival of the fittest" thing, but there is too many people for that so most people would just die from various different causes.
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you'll have to excuse lord skweegie...

he's kinda insane
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yeah, i live an actual soveriegn life where i constantly fight America, Canada, and the UN because of my heritage. but your government is based on my government (iroquios confederacy). but when politics gets involved with governance people get greedy. fuck obama, and wallstreet...they run the show and there isnt anythign we can do about it, unless we the people, gather our numbers and overthrow the government appointing new heads of government who are for the people, not for wallstreet.
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Skweegie is onto something...Tibet is a cunt.
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