"i don't have any proof buy i watched some show on the discovery channel"
-Do you do drugs?

"and they interviewed the police that ran up and found him"
-No one found Oswald at the grassy knoll.

"and they did some investigating to see if someone could have shot him on the grassy nole"
-Yeah some one did shoot JFK from the grassy knoll. There is a sewer at the grassy knoll behind a fence where JFk was probably shot, but it's filled in.

"and the only place that he could have done that from was behind this wall and he would have to of been 3 feet tall to be able to do that so, the shots came from a building."
-Yeah? So how did he get back to work so quickly? He was not found at the grassy knoll.

"I missed the earlier part of this exchange but have always believed the fatal shot came from the storm sewer on Elm Street to the right front of the motorcade. This was not from speculation or photo angling. The letter from Ed T, whoever that is, hits the nail on the head. I used to crawl down in the sewer with Penn Jones in 60s and it is quite different today. For one thing, the bottom has been filled in (note the flattening of the pipe opening at the bottom) and the opening that used to come up to my armpits now only reaches my waist. Oliver Stone repaved the street for his film and considerably reduced the size of the opening onto the street. It was more than ample and wide for the head shot. And Penn Jones, Jim Garrison and other critics placed the shot there from reports by witnesses and the physical evidence. It was Mark Lane in the late 60's who tried to move everyone up to the Grassy Knoll.

1. Earwitnesses heard a completely different sound from the last shot fired, one saying it echoed as if in a sewer.

2. Connally and others in the motorcade smelled gunpowder during the events. Smoke rose upwards from the fence area atop the Grassy Knoll, and would not have reached them. However, the passing of the first car in the motorcade would suck air and smoke out of the sewer hole and along the route of the motorcade.

3. A shot from the Grassy Knoll would have reached JFK's head at a downward angle, exiting from the base of his skull, and driving him down into the seat as it sent him backwards. A close examination of his reaction in both Zapruder and Nix films shows that he rises up from the seat as he is thrown back at over 100 mph. The fatal shot blew out the upper right portion of his skull. Both are consistent with a shot from below.

4. Brain matter and skull fragments explode upwards and travel back and to the left with great velocity at the moment of impact. Jackie later revealed that she picked up a portion of skull on the left rear of the car behind her seat, before being pushed back in by Clint Hill. A portion of skull was found near the curb on the south side of Elm, nearly 30 feet behind the position of the car at the point of the fatal shot and across the street.

5. Officer Billy Hargis was riding his motorcycle to the left rear of JFK's limousine and witnessed the head shot. He was quoted in the Warren Commission testimony saying that he was hit so hard with a skull fragment through his leather jacket that he thought he had been hit by a bullet. He looked down to see he was covered with blood, stopped and got off his motorcycle, and said "Am I hit?" He later parked the motorcycle over the opening of the sewer and ran up the Grassy Knoll with other witnesses. Quoted in the Dallas Morning News on the 30th anniversary of the assassination, Hargis recalled the event and said the brain and blood matter arced up and came down on him. Again, all this is more consistent with a shot from below and to the front.

6. The storm sewer is a good hidden location, one that a military sniper would choose. Penn Jones crawled through the pipes and discovered that going west along Elm leads to the vertical pipe that opens behind the Grassy Knoll fence near the overpass, and going across Elm and to the east leads to a grate in the basement of the Dallas jail. He yelled out when he got there, but no one responded.

7. The sewer shot was rarely mentioned by researchers or the public after Lane focused on the Grassy Knoll, but a few of us kept seeking the evidence. Subsequent "tell all" books by alleged participants usually repeat the standard locations, the TSBD window or the Grassy Knoll, for verisimilitude. A book published in the 1990's, long after it would have been fashionable to lie about the sewer location, titled Treason is My Daily Bread, by Mikhail Ledbedev, reveals his role in a plot involving Nazi intelligent agent Reinhard Gehlen to kill Kennedy in Dallas, and mentions that he was sent to shoot from the storm sewer. He may be covering for the real assassin in this, but by picking the sewer location he adds credibility to his account in my view. There are many other indications that Gehlen and his cold war spy network that formed our CIA were part of the JFK assassination conspiracy.

In the end though, it does not matter exactly where the shots came from or who fired them, even. None of that leads us back to the plotters, but the patsy Oswald does. Focusing endlessly on Dealey Plaza will never solve the crime. The bullets came from the Pentagon, no matter what direction they took."

Source:http://www.ratical.org/ratville/JFK/...sewerShot.html

do you believe everything that you read on a website

Do you have any burden of proof that Oswald was caught on the grassy knoll?

No, you disagree and say "I seen this and that on the discovery channel".

First of all, no you did not, don't fucking lie to me.

Second, you post nothing to back up this proof.

Third, yes it can be an illegitimate website, but look through google and you will find better more reliable sources that support the same thing.

Lastly, Harvey Lee Oswald was not found at the grassy knoll, and I don't know what bullshit you're watching on television. Post some proof first, then well look into it.

were you there on the grassy knoll when it happened, or was any of the people that made the websites that you read from on the grassy knoll when it happened, and yess i did what some show on the jfk assassination, i don't remmeber if it was discovery or the history or something but i watched some show on it

"were you there on the grassy knoll when it happened"
-No, were you or any of your “sources” from the discovery channel there? Don't think so. So don’t play that on me.

"or was any of the people that were on the grassy knoll when it happened"
-Exactly, there was NO ONE found on the GRASSY KNOLL but you seem to state that Harvey Lee Oswald was found on the grassy knoll when police arrived there.

“, i don't remmeber if it was discovery or the history or something but i watched some show on it”
-Oh really? Then you should take a look at these.


"Bullets struck John F. Kennedy and other people at 12:30 pm on November 22, 1963, resulting in the death of Kennedy. The 1964 Warren Commission report on the John F. Kennedy assassination concluded that those bullets came from a gun that Oswald fired from a window on the sixth floor of the book depository warehouse as the President's motorcade passed through Dallas' Dealey Plaza.

Further information: lone gunman theory

Texas Governor John Connally was also seriously wounded along with assassination witness James Tague who received a minor facial injury. On the evening of November 22, in an impromptu news conference, Oswald denied shooting president Kennedy or officer J. D. Tippit.

According to the Warren Commission report, immediately after he shot President Kennedy, Oswald hid the rifle behind some boxes and descended via the Depository's rear stairwell. On the second floor he encountered Dallas police officer Marion Baker who had driven his motorcycle to the door of the Depository and sprinted up the stairs in search of the shooter. With Baker was Oswald's supervisor Roy Truly, who identified Oswald as an employee, which caused Baker, who had his pistol in hand, to let Oswald pass. This encounter occurred in the second floor lunch room up to 90 seconds after the shooting. Both Baker and Truly testified later that Oswald was not out of breath and calmly carrying a bottle of Coca-Cola, presumably just purchased from the vending machine in the same room. Subsequently, Oswald crossed the floor to the front staircase, descended and left the building through the front entrance on Elm Street, just before the police sealed the building off. He would be the only employee to leave early that day; his supervisor later noticed only Oswald missing, and reported his name and address to the Dallas police in the building.

At about 12:40 p.m. (CST), Oswald boarded a city bus by pounding on the door in the middle of a block, when heavy traffic had slowed the bus to a halt. On the bus was Oswald's former landlady, who recognized him.

About two blocks later, he requested a bus transfer from the driver and exited the bus.

He took a taxicab to a few blocks beyond his rooming house at 1026 N. Beckley Ave. He walked back to his rooming house at about 1:00 p.m., went into his room briefly, and came out zipping up a jacket. His housekeeper, Earlene Roberts testified that "he was walking pretty fast — he was all but running."

Oswald left the house and was last seen by Roberts standing by a bus stop across the street.

He was next seen walking about four fifths of a mile away. Patrolman J. D. Tippit encountered Oswald near the corner of Patton Avenue and 10th Street, and pulled up to talk to him through his patrol car window.

Tippit then got out of his car and Oswald fired at the police officer with his .38 caliber revolver. Four of the shots hit Tippit, killing him, in view of two eyewitnesses.

Seven other witnesses heard the shots and saw the gunman flee the scene with the revolver in his hand. Three other witnesses identified Oswald as fleeing the scene.

Four cart***** cases were found at the scene by eyewitnesses. It was the unanimous testimony of expert witnesses before the Warren Commission that these used cart***** cases were fired from the revolver in Oswald's possession to the exclusion of all other weapons.

A few minutes later, Oswald ducked into the entrance alcove of a shoe store to avoid passing police cars, then slipped into the nearby Texas Theater without paying (even though he had $13.37 in his pocket).[88] The shoe store's manager noticed Oswald and followed him into the theater where he alerted the ticket clerk, who phoned the police.

The police quickly arrived en masse and entered the theater as the lights were turned on. Officer M.N. McDonald approached Oswald sitting near the rear and ordered him to stand up. As Oswald said "Well, it is all over now" and appeared to raise his hands in surrender, he struck the officer. A scuffle ensued where McDonald reported that Oswald pulled the trigger on his revolver, but the hammer came down on the web of skin between the thumb and forefinger of the officer's hand, which prevented the revolver from firing.

Oswald was eventually subdued. As he was led past an angry group of people who had gathered outside the theater, Oswald shouted that he was a victim of police brutality.

Oswald was held on suspicion first as a suspect in the shooting of Officer Tippit and was questioned by Detective Jim Leavelle. Shortly afterward Oswald was also booked on suspicion of murdering both President Kennedy and Officer Tippit. By the end of the night he had been arraigned for both murders.

While in custody, Oswald had an impromptu, face-to-face brush with reporters and photographers in the hallway of the police station. A reporter asked him, "Did you shoot the President?" and Oswald answered, "I have not been accused of that." The reporters answered that he had been. "In fact, I didn't even know about it until a reporter in the hall asked me that question," Oswald added. Later Oswald said to reporters, "I didn't shoot anyone," and "They're taking me in because I lived in the Soviet Union. I'm just a patsy!"

Unedited footage of the impromptu face-to-face also shows Jack Ruby lingering amongst the reporters.

Source:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lee_Harvey_Oswald

Suspects & Conspiracy Theories
Who would have wanted such a popular figure rubbed out? From Vatican hit men to angry industrialists, the list of unusual suspects is endless. Here are three of the most popular plotters in the frame…

• Lee Harvey Oswald
The official enquiry into the assassination of Kennedy – the Warren Commission -determined that Oswald assassinated JFK. The report declared that Oswald, a communist sympathiser, acted alone and was not part of a conspiracy. Oswald was believed to have fired three shots from the 6th floor of the Texas School Book Depository Building. Unfortunately, Oswald was silenced before he had a chance to give his side of the story. His killer was Jack Ruby – a nightclub owner with known Chicago Mafia links.

• The Mafia
Why would the Mafia have wanted JFK dead? Quite simply, because the Kennedy administration posed a serious threat to organized crime in America. Robert Kennedy – the President's brother and Attorney General - was waging an war on the Mafia, chasing them through the courts. New Orleans crime boss, Carlos Marcello, has long been suspected of his involvement in the assassination of President Kennedy.

• Joint CIA-Mafia Sting
Many believe that the assassination came as a result of Kennedy's refusal to offer military support for a US invasion of Cuba. His reluctance lead to some of the CIA's highest ranking officials to openly call JFK a traitor. Conspiracy theorists reckon that Kennedy's assassination was accomplished by a three man Mafia/CIA ‘firing squad’. Possible names for snipers include: Johnny Roselli, Jimmy Fratianno, Charles Nicoletti, James Files, and Eugene Brading. Lee Harvey Oswald is said to be the forth man set up to take the fall.

• Industrial Dispute It's been widely speculated that many figures in the upper echelons of finance and commerce were frustrated with Kennedy's administration. The defence industry was angry about him having cold feet in South East Asia, and oil barons complained over losing millions over their interests in Cuba. But perhaps most intriguing, shipping magnate Aristotle Onassis was reportedly critical of Kennedy's proposed customs regulations. An associate of Kennedy's father, Onassis became Jacqueline Kennedy's husband in 1968.

Source: http://www.discoverychannel.com.au/w...cy/index.shtml

Less than an hour after Kennedy was shot, Oswald killed a policeman who questioned him on the street near his rooming house in Dallas. Thirty minutes later, Oswald was arrested in a movie theater by police responding to reports of a suspect. He was formally arraigned on November 23 for the murders of President Kennedy and Officer J.D. Tippit.

On November 24, Oswald was brought to the basement of the Dallas police headquarters on his way to a more secure county jail. A crowd of police and press with live television cameras rolling gathered to witness his departure. As Oswald came into the room, Jack Ruby emerged from the crowd and fatally wounded him with a single shot from a concealed .38 revolver. Ruby, who was immediately detained, claimed that rage at Kennedy's murder was the motive for his action. Some called him a hero, but he was nonetheless charged with first-degree murder.

Jack Ruby, originally known as Jacob Rubenstein, operated strip joints and dance halls in Dallas and had minor connections to organized crime. He features prominently in Kennedy-assassination theories, and many believe he killed Oswald to keep him from revealing a larger conspiracy. In his trial, Ruby denied the allegation and pleaded innocent on the grounds that his great grief over Kennedy's murder had caused him to suffer "psychomotor epilepsy" and shoot Oswald unconsciously. The jury found Ruby guilty of "murder with malice" and sentenced him to die.

http://www.history.com/minisite.do?c...&mini_id=51735

so than who did it than

was it the zodiac

o_______o...... I don't get your question.

who killed john f. kennedy

Maybe you should "watch" Discovery channel and find out.