I'm not saying all illegal immigrants are murderers and drug dealers, I am not at all racist. But you should take a drive through south mountain park if you ever go to Phoenix. It used to be a good part of Phoenix to get away from all of that... But the last time I was there between 300 & 500 Mexican people were all over the place laying around drinking tequila etc. Sort of like when you see the documentaries on ms13. And they do take on some crappy jobs but what good is it when they generally don't spend the money and/or send it to other countries on K-mart pay cards? Immigrants generally save there money and that slows the economy and raises tax prices. The hospital that I was born in closed down even because people were not paying the medical bills (mainly illigals) and plus the issue of welfare...

You may be correct about the SSN but I think that is what the nabor said; my parents were talking to him about it and I wasn't listening to the conversation. Could be wrong though I suppose.

And the crips are nothing compared to the Hispanic gangs. I grew up with the phoenix west side crips (primarily Mexican and white members) on my street when I was a kid (thats part of the reason my parents moved.) I hear about ms13 members cutting off peoples heads and crap like that.

you know there are still illegal immigrants who are paying there taxes trying not to get deported an working there arses off just to make a living here. So do you think they should be kicked out and sent back to a country where you get paid maybe a dollar or 2 an hour just enough in one week to buy food for one family member. So you choose what family member you rather feed this week.

As for the gangs most hispanics in them join because it is a security they believe if they have people around them, and they can feed themselves to "survive"...yes other join for lesser known reasons trying to be cool and shite.

So if you believe they should not be allowed here why do we grant amnesty to people from other countries *i believe cuba and some other eastern inslands though i am not quite sure* If they step foot on our land they are granted amnesty and we cannot deport them. Mexico should be the same way especially how there political gov. has gone there may be a civil war break out at anytime...but of course it does not seem any of you would know that.
*pardon my spelling errors*

........ do you even read other peoples post?

once again no one was talking to you he was talking to red butcher

do you ever get sick of people telling you your an idiot?

I waz explaining my post, dumbshit...
what bitch?

you were talking to oxyG. defending yourself when he wasent talking to you.

what you're doing right there ^^^^ is defending your self from what oxyGs post "I'm not being racist... but that's how it is. (what I posted in my last post)"

no one asked you to explain your post either. why didnt you just edit it, and explain it there if you were really trying to explain it?

ok, ok boys settle down. i did mention your post in there palmer but you defended yourself on something i said directed to butcher..so whos the real idiot here? now im going to address both BUTCHER AND PALMER's replies to my post. you guys keep giving dead points and assumtions. butcher you are saying that because in the one area you grew up it was a serious problem. im telling you that im from miami, i can promise you that its bad down here with gangs and shit OF ALL RACES. even from a young age people are being breeded into this gang culture, i was watching something on the news yesterday listing MIDDLE SCHOOLS in just the miami-dade area that had more illegal activities going on then in one of the main prisions (i cant remember the name they said). gang issues has nothing to do with immigration, its the world we fucking live in. also i never called any of you racist so put your dicks back in your pants. read the second to last sentence in my post, i think its the second to last. you should be fucking honored that people will put their life and their families life to live in the great country you call home. call me a hippie, but this is fucking land that WE took from native americans by ambushing them and invading small little villages killing off every last man, woman, and child with a feather in their hair, we didnt pick their strawberries for them, we murdered them. not that they werent savage themselves, but we are nowhere near from perfect. and please focus on some of the other points besides gangs, because that isnt the problem because GANGS is the problem not hispanic gangs.

also i am really curious to see a response to what i said about immigrants taking the lower class jobs, making americans more competive for better jobs..if anybody has a response.

also i can go on..but i need to reread what you guys wrote before i blabber without remember exactly what you said, also i need to piss so ill continue if needed in a minute.


EDIT: i like everythin mizu said
and butcher, 300-500 mexicans laying around drinking tequila..just laying around sippin their tequila? but dont forget the others running into people's houses killing them for their ssn