its kinda funny well not really look at the facts

1. in 1993 the U.S. supplied al qaeda with weapons and cia agents to fight agaianst russia(now an ally on terrorism)

2. well known fact that saddam hussein was given the key to detroit(the real motor city madman)

3. north korea has nuclear warheads aimed at san francisco and have publicly stated they would use them yet we went to iraq instead(a country who didnt have any nuclear warheads)

4. house bill 666 gives police the right to search homes without a search warrant just a suspicion

5.hilary fucking clinton may very well be the next president(fuck that)

6. hitler tried to take over the world and dabbled heavily at genocide to cause wwII the only reason we went to war was because of pearl harbor.

7.so we didnt go after hitler for his shit but we went after north veitnam for attacking south veitnam. isnt that what the union did to the confederacy.

The list goes on and it seems like the u.s. likes to play god well people looks like GOD LOST time for a revolution.

Those are the worst things that you know the U.S. government has done?!?!?!? You have no idea!

Enlighten us master, enlighten us.

haha totaly off topic, but google search the word failure
the first result should be a biography of bush

anyway, im not making a direct assumption, but just think about this...
if the gov't has the power to keep secrets from us, what dont we know yet?

Have you ever read a text book? or are you just pulling shit out of your ass. The U.S. entered WWII for more reasons than pearl harbor. The U.S. was at a state of undelcared war as of march 1941. Pearl harbor occured December of 1941.

" In March 1941 the U.S. Congress passed the Lend-Lease Act and appropriated an initial $7 billion to lend or lease weapons and other aid to any countries the president might designate. By this means the U.S. hoped to ensure victory over the Axis without involving its own troops. By late summer of 1941, however, the U.S. was in a state of undeclared war with Germany. In July, U.S. Marines were stationed in Iceland, which had been occupied by the British in May 1940, and thereafter the U.S. Navy took over the task of escorting convoys in the waters west of Iceland. In September President Franklin D. Roosevelt authorized ships on convoy duty to attack Axis war vessels."

Microsoft ® Encarta ® 2006. © 1993-2005 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

It is true that pearl harbor might have pushed the us entirely into WWII, but we were involved in combat way before that occurred.


And regarding some of the events of the holocaust. The allied and even most of the axis powers were not completely aware of all Hilter was up to. A lot of concentration camps were not discovered until the war was almost over.

one other thing...Germany declared war on the U.S. two days after we declared war on Japan.

irrelevant if you think for one second that germany or any other reason for us entering wwII is plausible your niave you think you know politics you know only what they tell you we may have been at what some would call war but were focusing most of our energy on a way to avoid war and as for the world not knowing of concentration camps until the near end of the war is bullshit that may be true for the general public but trust me every government with any type of intell new from the beginning. and oh yea if all this isnt enough what did we do to japanese people following pearl harbor put them in camps we just didnt kill them and then called it public safety and you only pointed out one of my reasons for a wanting of the revolt against our government i know a girl who had a boyfreind who went in the army as an intelligence analyst he went to hawaii for breifing and three weeks later called her from an institution. area 51 need i say anymore our government is full of agendas and lies and secrets for god sakes our president is part of a secret society the freemasons. be realistic and think outside the realm of what you think you know and for the love of joe pesci open your eyes its time for a goddamn revolution

aleister, half of that.. your just taking partial facts and twisting them, i'm not for our government but atleast get the facts right
1. the confederates fired first
2. i'm glad you can see the governmental folly but if they told us everything, people would be freaking out and jumping to conclusions, as much as if you tell your class that your going to have a text next period, they all freak out.. same concept, smaller scale
we atom bombed the shit out of japan because we needed to show our great power to the communism that was on the really high rise AND so we didnt lose so many troops, the army generals told truman how many hundreds of thousands of troops we'd lose if we simply invaded them on their turf, this was a more cost effective way.. we already had the atom bomb built thanks to the Manhattan project anyway
and just one more thing.. what do you have against clinton and why?

sorry, one more question popped into my head.. why title this godlost, any comment on religion would more appropriately be placed under that christian religious freaks topic

well the reason for godlost is as it says in the thread weve spent 231 years raising ourselves up to godhead and fancy our government a god well looks like god lost at least in my eyes and i have a problem with clinton because 9/11 wouldnt have happened if he couldve got his balls outta monicas mouth and used them we had osama new his wereabouts in saudi arabia but to please the democratic party he made saudi arabia expell him from the country were he went to afghanistan a country who is in a state of anarchy and is lawless with no way to track him. not that bush is any better and wether or not the confederacy or union attacked first is pointless really because the same thing happened here and noone else got involved the facts are there and the key points are hit and its just the tip of the iceberg that was only seven fuckups we need to revolt bush is taking a capitalistic government and trying to turn it in to a fascist one and big picture bushit has probably got the idea of fusing political and military strength into the new world order you dont think were gonna have a say in what the new iraqi government does communist capitalist democratic fascist bullshit its time for a revolution.