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Old March 6th, 2008   #1
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first 1/3=religion
seccond 1/3=9-11
third 1/3=unbeliveable
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I saw this documentary, and I daresay I do believe in the fact that we have been and potentially are being lied to by our governments to make it easier for them to push what they want to do with their power on the world.

I would not go so far as to say that I am mental or obsessive over this, but I believe in it because the evidence the movie has put up is undeniable, fairly unbiased (or as unbiased as you can be when trying to prove your point) and to the most part, truthful.

There were some parts that I did not believe in, especially the one about Religion. Religion is a vise for people to dump their problems to a savior or idol of some sort. Religion helps people get on with their lives and gives them a sense of direction. However, Religion can be easily controlled by the people who hold a position within it, such as the hierarchy of the catholic church, for instance.

This example becomes evidently apparent in times such as the Crusades, where King Richard (or I think it was) along with the Pope, and some bishops decided to "Spread the Word, Unity and Peace of God" upon the rest of the world. What REALLY happened was that the Crusaders simply killed whoever did not convert to Christianity. There is an example of how Religion itself can be controlled and manipulated. Judging by this, we derive that it is NOT Religion itself that manipulates, but rather the people who control it, use it to manipulate the people (if manipulate is not the best word).

The 9/11 part that proved that it was an inside job (or at least in my opinion) I found was very truthful and had plenty of evidence to back up their theory, which is why I accepted it (Not to say that I didn't think 9/11 WAS an inside job in the FIRST place, it only proved it thoroughly in my eyes). For example: When it stated that the way the towers collapsed was different than it was speculated and theorized that it would have (The "Pancake" theory) it backed it up with pictures of how the main pillars were cut with Thermate, and how they found traces of some of the active ingredients in Thermate in the wreckage, such as Sulfur, leftover Magnesium, etc etc.

Finally, I had to question the part about how the banks are the ones who make the most money out of anybody. It stated that money is just worthless paper (which I agree with) which was being sold to the country at interest, which could not be afforded, so more money was printed, leading to more interest, and so on and so forth. HOWEVER, I have come to the conclusion that it cannot be possible, and that there must be some kind of way to back up the dollar, or else there wouldn't be the dollar. Countries using a private bank would constantly be trying to climb out of debt that is piling on to more debt with more interest, etc etc. Yet, there are economies that use this that still survive, and prosper (Such as the U.S, Although unfortunately not quite AS much now).

Anyway, that was just a statement as to how it made a plethora of sense, yet is questionable. I mean no offense to anyone, and I borrow almost ENTIRELY from the movie. I tried not to speculate too much, because that would cause ill opinions that are unclear and too speculative to have any root.

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Chemtrails..
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What is that supposted to mean? Don't you have anything to say about my really long analysis of the movie
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"The Chemtrail conspiracy theory claims that some trails left behind jet aircraft are different in appearance and quality from those of normal contrails, may be composed of harmful chemicals, and are being deliberately produced, and covered up by the government. These unusual trails are referred to as "chemtrails" (a portmanteau of "chemical trails").

The term "chemtrail" does not refer to common forms of aerial dumping (e.g. crop dusting, cloud seeding or aerial firefighting). It specifically refers to systematic, high-altitude dumping of unknown substances for undisclosed purposes, resulting in the appearance of these unusual contrails."

"The chemtrail theory apparently first achieved prominence in mid-to-late 1990s.[1][2] Chemtrails have been discussed on radio programs hosted by Art Bell and Jeff Rense with investigative journalist William Thomas who first reported on chemtrails.[3] According to a FAQ[4] posted at Jeff Rense's website, "chemtrails (CTs) look like contrails initially, but are much thicker, extend across the sky and are often laid down in varying patterns of X's, tic-tac-toe grids, cross-hatched and parallel lines. Instead of quickly dissipating, chemtrails expand and drip feathers and mares' tails. In 30 minutes or less, they open into wispy formations which join together, forming a thin white veil or a 'fake cirrus-type cloud' that persists for hours."

"Chemtrails" are mentioned in House Bill HR 2977,[5] the Space Preservation Act of 2001, introduced by Congressman Dennis Kucinich, where it appears as one of a list of "exotic weapons system[s]" to be banned under the bill. Proponents of the theory point to this as official acknowledgment of the possibility, at least, of such weapons systems. The entire list of exotic weapons was omitted from later versions of the bill.

An article entitled "The Chemtrail Smoking Gun"[6] by Bruce Conway, suggested that chemtrails represent the implementation of technologies suggested in a 1992 National Academy of Science study, "Policy Implications of Greenhouse Warming";[7] specifically, that chemtrails are part of a secret project intended to mitigate global warming.

The Las Vegas Tribune, a free weekly broadsheet, ran an article on September 9, 2005, entitled "Chemtrails - Coming Out Of The Closet?",[8] wherein that publication's managing editor, Marcus K. Dalton, stated that United States Air Force scientists working at Wright-Patterson Air Force Base in Dayton, Ohio, told Columbus Alive[9]—a weekly entertainment magazine—that they had been conducting two aerial spraying experiments: "one involved aluminum oxide spraying related to global warming and the other involved barium stearate and had to do with high-tech military communications."[10]

Some researchers believe that a chemical and/or biological agent of some sort is being released"

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Thats pretty intense. Chemtrails have never been brought to my attention before. I'm going to add that to my list of question/complaints.
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ive seen it i thought ti was good to have u start thinking the possible out comes of the world... and possibley make it possitive
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I saw this documentary, and I daresay I do believe in the fact that we have been and potentially are being lied to by our governments to make it easier for them to push what they want to do with their power on the world.

I would not go so far as to say that I am mental or obsessive over this, but I believe in it because the evidence the movie has put up is undeniable, fairly unbiased (or as unbiased as you can be when trying to prove your point) and to the most part, truthful.

There were some parts that I did not believe in, especially the one about Religion. Religion is a vise for people to dump their problems to a savior or idol of some sort. Religion helps people get on with their lives and gives them a sense of direction. However, Religion can be easily controlled by the people who hold a position within it, such as the hierarchy of the catholic church, for instance.

This example becomes evidently apparent in times such as the Crusades, where King Richard (or I think it was) along with the Pope, and some bishops decided to "Spread the Word, Unity and Peace of God" upon the rest of the world. What REALLY happened was that the Crusaders simply killed whoever did not convert to Christianity. There is an example of how Religion itself can be controlled and manipulated. Judging by this, we derive that it is NOT Religion itself that manipulates, but rather the people who control it, use it to manipulate the people (if manipulate is not the best word).

The 9/11 part that proved that it was an inside job (or at least in my opinion) I found was very truthful and had plenty of evidence to back up their theory, which is why I accepted it (Not to say that I didn't think 9/11 WAS an inside job in the FIRST place, it only proved it thoroughly in my eyes). For example: When it stated that the way the towers collapsed was different than it was speculated and theorized that it would have (The "Pancake" theory) it backed it up with pictures of how the main pillars were cut with Thermate, and how they found traces of some of the active ingredients in Thermate in the wreckage, such as Sulfur, leftover Magnesium, etc etc.

Finally, I had to question the part about how the banks are the ones who make the most money out of anybody. It stated that money is just worthless paper (which I agree with) which was being sold to the country at interest, which could not be afforded, so more money was printed, leading to more interest, and so on and so forth. HOWEVER, I have come to the conclusion that it cannot be possible, and that there must be some kind of way to back up the dollar, or else there wouldn't be the dollar. Countries using a private bank would constantly be trying to climb out of debt that is piling on to more debt with more interest, etc etc. Yet, there are economies that use this that still survive, and prosper (Such as the U.S, Although unfortunately not quite AS much now).

Anyway, that was just a statement as to how it made a plethora of sense, yet is questionable. I mean no offense to anyone, and I borrow almost ENTIRELY from the movie. I tried not to speculate too much, because that would cause ill opinions that are unclear and too speculative to have any root.

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it was thermite! and i heavy agree with u... everything must be taken with a grain of salt
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