I heard about this on CNN this morning, and thought it'd be an interesting topic.(Note the date of the article-we in the U.S. are just hearing of this now, whereas the Russian website I got it from reported on it in November.)


Russian analyst predicts decline and breakup of U.S.
24/ 11/ 2008

MOSCOW, November 24 (RIA Novosti) - A leading Russian political analyst has said the economic turmoil in the United States has confirmed his long-held view that the country is heading for collapse, and will divide into separate parts.

Professor Igor Panarin said in an interview with the respected daily Izvestia published on Monday: "The dollar is not secured by anything. The country's foreign debt has grown like an avalanche, even though in the early 1980s there was no debt. By 1998, when I first made my prediction, it had exceeded $2 trillion. Now it is more than 11 trillion. This is a pyramid that can only collapse."

The paper said Panarin's dire predictions for the U.S. economy, initially made at an international conference in Australia 10 years ago at a time when the economy appeared strong, have been given more credence by this year's events.

When asked when the U.S. economy would collapse, Panarin said: "It is already collapsing. Due to the financial crisis, three of the largest and oldest five banks on Wall Street have already ceased to exist, and two are barely surviving. Their losses are the biggest in history. Now what we will see is a change in the regulatory system on a global financial scale: America will no longer be the world's financial regulator."

When asked who would replace the U.S. in regulating world markets, he said: "Two countries could assume this role: China, with its vast reserves, and Russia, which could play the role of a regulator in Eurasia."

Asked why he expected the U.S. to break up into separate parts, he said: "A whole range of reasons. Firstly, the financial problems in the U.S. will get worse. Millions of citizens there have lost their savings. Prices and unemployment are on the rise. General Motors and Ford are on the verge of collapse, and this means that whole cities will be left without work. Governors are already insistently demanding money from the federal center. Dissatisfaction is growing, and at the moment it is only being held back by the elections and the hope that Obama can work miracles. But by spring, it will be clear that there are no miracles."

He also cited the "vulnerable political setup", "lack of unified national laws", and "divisions among the elite, which have become clear in these crisis conditions."

He predicted that the U.S. will break up into six parts - the Pacific coast, with its growing Chinese population; the South, with its Hispanics; Texas, where independence movements are on the rise; the Atlantic coast, with its distinct and separate mentality; five of the poorer central states with their large Native American populations; and the northern states, where the influence from Canada is strong.

He even suggested that "we could claim Alaska - it was only granted on lease, after all."

On the fate of the U.S. dollar, he said: "In 2006 a secret agreement was reached between Canada, Mexico and the U.S. on a common Amero currency as a new monetary unit. This could signal preparations to replace the dollar. The one-hundred dollar bills that have flooded the world could be simply frozen. Under the pretext, let's say, that terrorists are forging them and they need to be checked."

When asked how Russia should react to his vision of the future, Panarin said: "Develop the ruble as a regional currency. Create a fully functioning oil exchange, trading in rubles... We must break the strings tying us to the financial Titanic, which in my view will soon sink."

Panarin, 60, is a professor at the Diplomatic Academy of the Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs, and has authored several books on information warfare.


So, is it possible? Do you think that the USA could possibly dissolve? Or is this all crackpot theory by a old Russian wishing for payback from the Cold War?

i can see it happening more so just the south splitting from the north but i dont see it happening anytime soon

I don't see it happening at all... So long as USA remains a democracy it would just be stupid for a state to break off. That and it would likely just result in the state governors getting shot and things going back to normal after that.

Meh, the same topic pops up in Western Australia (where i live) from time to time, the idea of W.A breaking off and forming a new country. It's usually motivated by mining royalties...

As soon as the USA starts breaking up, it will cease to exist entirely. And it will further be known by the name "New China", because an unstable US leads to a Chinese invasion.

Bah, nice bit of scaremongering there. No substance or validity, but lovely sensationalist crap.

Even the best of countries have, at times, been in shambles. Take Post-WWI Germany, now a very successful country. So, while there may be some border disputes, the US will likely stay intact.

i think canada is going to rape USA in 50 years. soldier for soldier we are better your country just invests more money in technology and propaganda to make up for your lack of skills :P

fucking stupid ass canadian. do u guys even have a fucking military come on u moron

not likely to happen, silly bugger, we like you, and that means you like buying our stuff, so unless you start a trade agreement with russia, annex alaska, and somehow figure out how you're going to grow the majority of the food you need for the invasion yourself, good luck with that...for now, settle on eating our burgers, and feeling sick because of it.

yes, canada has a military, they've been there for every major battle that the us has been in for more than a hundred years......