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Old September 11th, 2007   #11
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This is apart of Bush sr. New world order plan. Read a book-1984. This is one of the many steps in creating a Totalitarian government. The nazies did the same thing scaring the people to hand over complete control of the government to one person
See also V. for vendetta
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Structural engineers would disagree with you, the way the building were designed they were built to fall in their own shadow so as to not damage any of the surrounding buildings. The outside of the buildings was where the main structural support was located, the interior of the buildings was not designed to support anything but the individual floors, the elevator shafts were the backbone of the building and only served as a frame on which to build the floors. The weak structure of the floors and the lack of fire proofing is what lead to the collapse-the building literally imploded.
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Think of it like an Audi. When you get into a crash, an Audi is not designed to still be intact once it is complete. Rather, the car uses itself to form a cacoon around the driver, keeping him/her safe.
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blackzodiac, dont quote me on this one, but i think the temperature you were talking about is the liquifying temperature of steel. the hotter any metal gets, the weaker it is, imagine thousands of tons on weakening pieces of metal, also, the fire got hotter as everything around it burned. the building literally pancaked on top of itself, if you saw the footage again, you could see that the floors fell on top of themselves, progressively getting heavier and heavier, causing the whole building to fall, in the footage, you can see the facades of the buildings stay upright for a little while until the floors get too far down. also, in a few interviews with fire fighters, they claimed that when they were going up the stairs, they felt a heavy sustained wind blowing down on them, they are trained to leave in that type of instance. i hope everyone finds this information helpful
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blackzodiac, dont quote me on this one, but i think the temperature you were talking about is the liquifying temperature of steel. the hotter any metal gets, the weaker it is, imagine thousands of tons on weakening pieces of metal, also, the fire got hotter as everything around it burned. the building literally pancaked on top of itself, if you saw the footage again, you could see that the floors fell on top of themselves, progressively getting heavier and heavier, causing the whole building to fall, in the footage, you can see the facades of the buildings stay upright for a little while until the floors get too far down. also, in a few interviews with fire fighters, they claimed that when they were going up the stairs, they felt a heavy sustained wind blowing down on them, they are trained to leave in that type of instance. i hope everyone finds this information helpful
"dont quote me on this one"
-Sorry had too, I'll explain.

"but i think the temperature you were talking about is the liquifying temperature of steel. the hotter any metal gets, the weaker it is, imagine thousands of tons on weakening pieces of metal, also, the fire got hotter as everything around it burned."
- I was giving an example, the metal that was used was not suppose to loose it's support after 45 minutes, the building would have fallen on an angle.

"in a few interviews with fire fighters, they claimed that when they were going up the stairs, they felt a heavy sustained wind blowing down on them, they are trained to leave in that type of instance. i hope everyone finds this information helpful"
-Firefighters also heard explosions and found explosive type resudue, on the walls when the elevator exploded. Hope this helps.

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hahaha, man zodiac i love u as a mod, where were you when hitler was ranting
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I don't think firefighters' testimonies can be much help in a situation like this. There must have been so much adrenaline pumping through their vains that the sound a mouse makes may have sounded like an anvil dropping on an elephant. IMO.

The only thing that was supporting the building was the elevator shaft. Theories state that the engine fuel spewed down the elevator shaft at thousands of degrees (according to CNN; I don't have sources, I just remember hearing that), weakening it. That, combined with New York building (that is, collapsing upon itself to save nearby buildings and not have a domino effect) caused the buildings to crumble... and vertically.

Oh, and BlackZodiac, you are by far the coolest mod I have ever seen (other than me, of course :P ).
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well, in my opinion, it goes, hacker, zodiac, then u saj
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