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Old January 1st, 2009   #11
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I was stoned, and your avatar scared me.
I was thinking the same exact thing.

Also, apart from already known tried-and-true methods, is there a way, through looking at the different structures of the atoms in a mixture or substance, to find out how to extract each individual one?
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Old January 1st, 2009   #12
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Ammonium nitrate is water soluble, calcium salt denaturants aren't.
Good point, yet I don't know if there only calcium salts mixed in... checked my sack of ammonium nitrate fertilizer, looked a bit on the net (the best I found is "http://www.fertilizer.org/content/search?SearchText=ammonium+nitrate&submit.x=12&sub mit.y=5" intresting the first result) yet got no clear clue. Do anyone knows what kind of additives there are in the ammonium nitrate fertilizer? I think I have read once in a post, (yours I think Ghost) that diluting and boilng it until it gets brownish it makes it fine for that purpose. Clears it enough. what about it? maybe stupid...? let me know


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Also, apart from already known tried-and-true methods, is there a way, through looking at the different structures of the atoms in a mixture or substance, to find out how to extract each individual one?
Yes, indeed there is one. You just have to flood the solution of sustances with ions of the sustance you need. That's the one we learnd at university so far. Here is the experiment... : we made a mixture of KIO3 and NaCl and the point was to extract the NaCl. So we made some HCl and added it to the KIO3-NaCl solution and after a while (and the right ammount of HCl added) it started like "Snowing" NaCl in the solution, resulting pure NaCl in the bottom of the heating glass where the solution where. Kinda cool hugh? And very logical...

(hope this wasn't one of your tried-and-true methods, so I helped)
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You can buy it pure from green houses i think? I have a 50 pound bag, kinda scared to play with it....
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You can buy it pure from green houses i think? I have a 50 pound bag, kinda scared to play with it....
I have one too, but the point is: is it pure NH4NO3 or there are and some other (even in small amount) substances that during the N2O(laughing gas)-making procces will result in some other bad for your health substances?

That's what I am trying to figure out... that's the thing that holds me from doing it (make N2O).
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Hey how about that "popular" purification method that says: "dissolve some AN in methanol, then discard the solid remains, then put it in a pan over dry ice and pure AN will precipitate at the bottom."
How about this one? It does smth and if yes then what he hell it does after all?




Sorry about the double post but it was kinda irrelevant with the previous one and< mostly, you wouldn't receive a notification e-mail and so you wouldn't reply...
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I would try that, trial and error my friend
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sorry off topic but.. about lauging gas or N2O

Is it safe to inhale Nitrous produced from heating AN after it has been bubbled through water?
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i have heard it was, but im not really sure, i was also read somewhere you mix the ammonium nitrate with fine sand first
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thats interesting, I wonder what these well studied chemists will say.
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i say if you want to inhale nitrous oxide get it from a pressurized whipped cream can, cause you will know it is safe and pure. but i know, its alot more fun to make stuff like this
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