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Old September 12th, 2007   #11
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1) normal 14-2 wires (i.e. residential housing wires) have been rated at 600v
2) I'm not using 14 gauge wire
3) the house wont burn and the fuse wont trip b/c there is no more than 120 Volt draw to the transformer the transformer is what turns it into thousands of volts. Why do you think your house doesn't burn down when you flip on a microwave.

Dude Bullshit do you know how awesomely bad ass Microwaves are. They are absorbed 1/32 of an inch into your skin just barley far enough to reach your pain receptors your whole body would feel like it was grabbing a light bulb. They can fry cockroaches in your walls, paralyze small game from a distance. Most importantly, THEY WILL COMPLETELY DESTROY ALL NON-SHIELDED ELECTRICAL EQUIPMENT. Microwaves travel into electronics (cell phones computers i pods anything!) and send an uncontrollable current though the whole system. Wiping every single component on it, they can even travel through wires, having a chance of destroying components connected to them (networked computer). All kinds of turmoil and fun can be had with this nifty device.
Plus you can cook a steak from 50 feet who doesn't want that?
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1) normal 14-2 wires (i.e. residential housing wires) have been rated at 600v
2) I'm not using 14 gauge wire
3) the house wont burn and the fuse wont trip b/c there is no more than 120 Volt draw to the transformer the transformer is what turns it into thousands of volts. Why do you think your house doesn't burn down when you flip on a microwave.

Dude Bullshit do you know how awesomely bad ass Microwaves are. They are absorbed 1/32 of an inch into your skin just barley far enough to reach your pain receptors your whole body would feel like it was grabbing a light bulb. They can fry cockroaches in your walls, paralyze small game from a distance. Most importantly, THEY WILL COMPLETELY DESTROY ALL NON-SHIELDED ELECTRICAL EQUIPMENT. Microwaves travel into electronics (cell phones computers i pods anything!) and send an uncontrollable current though the whole system. Wiping every single component on it, they can even travel through wires, having a chance of destroying components connected to them (networked computer). All kinds of turmoil and fun can be had with this nifty device.
Plus you can cook a steak from 50 feet who doesn't want that?
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sorry fer the doubble
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1) normal 14-2 wires (i.e. residential housing wires) have been rated at 600v
2) I'm not using 14 gauge wire
3) the house wont burn and the fuse wont trip b/c there is no more than 120 Volt draw to the transformer the transformer is what turns it into thousands of volts. Why do you think your house doesn't burn down when you flip on a microwave.

Dude Bullshit do you know how awesomely bad ass Microwaves are. They are absorbed 1/32 of an inch into your skin just barley far enough to reach your pain receptors your whole body would feel like it was grabbing a light bulb. They can fry cockroaches in your walls, paralyze small game from a distance. Most importantly, THEY WILL COMPLETELY DESTROY ALL NON-SHIELDED ELECTRICAL EQUIPMENT. Microwaves travel into electronics (cell phones computers i pods anything!) and send an uncontrollable current though the whole system. Wiping every single component on it, they can even travel through wires, having a chance of destroying components connected to them (networked computer). All kinds of turmoil and fun can be had with this nifty device.
Plus you can cook a steak from 50 feet who doesn't want that?
"normal 14-2 wires (i.e. residential housing wires) have been rated at 600v"
I'm not to sure about it but this is what I have come up with little "research"
"The standard U.S. household wiring design has two 120 volt "hot" wires and a neutral which is at ground potential. The two 120 volt wires are obtained by grounding the centertap of the transformer supplying the house so that when one hot wire is swinging positive with respect to ground, the other is swinging negative. This versatile design allows the use of either hot wire to supply the standard 120 volt household circuits. For higher power applications like clothes dryers, electric ranges, air conditioners, etc. , both hot wires can be used to produce a 240 volt circuit."

Source: http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu...ic/hsehld.html

I would like to see some souces because then I can totally see you point, I don't know if you're giving me random numbers.

"Why do you think your house doesn't burn down when you flip on a microwave."

A microwave dosn't use exactly 120V it ranges from 110-120V just to be safe, also most houses have Surge Suppressors just incase something happens, what my point was in the beginning was, if you're messing around with something, it could possibly change by modifying the microwave and blow up? Once my friends friend wired up wire to a box that would give numbers and then onto an antenna, threw a rock at it and the fucking thing blew up and the power in his house turned off, all because of a little device that needed no more then 12V.
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It would be possible to trip the breaker, but i left the transformer the way it was originally. It still pulls 120V and still puts out the same thousands of volts. You can tap a transformer at different points of the coil to get varying amounts of line (taping from the outlets end) or load (taping from the magnetron's end), but even if i did and the draw was more than 120v it wouldn't burn my house down, perhaps the gun but unlikely. Worst case it would simply trip the circuit breaker or (i think in your friends case) trip the main breaker cutting all power from my homes service.
It says on all ANSI rated wire the maximum rating right on the wire heres an outlet selling 14 and 12 gauge wire both have a 600v limit
http://www.doityourself.com/icat/1214gauge
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Does anyone have any helpful advice to get this shit built
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It says on all ANSI rated wire the maximum rating right on the wire heres an outlet selling 14 and 12 gauge wire both have a 600v limit
http://www.doityourself.com/icat/1214gauge
Oh ok, well that there what you showed me is an "upgrade" not what houses come with stock like I provided, I don't know what are behind your walls so, proceed as you want, just don't burn your house down.
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oh sorry heres some residential 14 gauge http://cgi.ebay.com/About-1-2-Roll-o...QQcmdZViewItem
Homes generally are wired with 2 to 3 different types of wire 14 gauge, for 15 amp breakers 12 gauge for 20 amp breakers and sometimes MC (metal clad) which come in the same gauges yet are sometimes used instead ( i think just real old houses ) but all are rated for a maximum 600v which means that unless 600v is sustained running through that at all times it wont arch through its insulation (this isn't accounting for other factors-bending, heat, scratching!!!) But like I said the power source and the safty is just fine I think I've narrowed it down to either a blown Magnetron or my diode-capacitor is configured incorrectly.
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Plus you can cook a steak from 50 feet who doesn't want that?
I would LOVE to see your calculations on THIS one. Ever heard of inverse square law? As in, fifty feet away your power will be completely incoherent and undetectable? hell, try FIVE feet way the same will happen?
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Normally a Magnetron wont fire microwaves more than a few feet but to amplify the signal strength I would have to construct a HERF gain antenna or a Microwave horn. Which is simply a pyramid shaped cone attached to the probe end of the Magnetron you can calculate the maximum effective distance based on the flare of the horn, the length of the horn, and power output of the magnetron. for mine I was thinking of creating a adjustable horn able to flare between 30 and 60 degrees covering the most useful ranges. Like focusing a telescope you could maximize the efficiency of it. 50' would be within the limits of it's reach
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