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Old September 11th, 2007   #1
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Question Microwave gun

I was recently trying to build a microwave gun and encountered a few problems. The damn thing wont work. I know i could just keep all the components the same and reconfigure the case but I wanted to get down to the basic parts to make it more compact and lighter. Parts: High output Transformer, High voltage capacitor, Diode, and a Magnetron. Ive taken some college courses on basic electronics so I understand what i have to do but it just doesn't want to work.
This is how i got it set up: transformer, capacitor, diode, magnetron - Power enters the step up end of the transformer and the negative end exits to the capacitor and the positive to the proper end of the magnetron the electrons build up in the capacitor which has the diode connected to it and ground and the capacitor in turn feeds the other end of the magnetron. the magnetron has a kill switch on it which i deactivated by connecting the two ends together permanently leaving it closed. I turn the bitch on and only get a humming (which I believe is the transformer) and a shock.
If anyone has built one of these, tips would be nice. Or if you wanna build one I can help get you started. Theres very little online about this except for that one video which is useless because its fake. I can send pictures if you need 'em but this fuckers gotta get built!
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Wait a minute.

You took a magnetron OUT of it's housing, connected it to mains voltage, SOLDERED SHUT the safety cut-off and expect it to WORK?

You deserve everything you get. I'm not even going to touch this.
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The magnetron is still in its protective casing but not in the microwave. Yes there is still the chance of loose microwaves but with exception to direct eye or testicle hits there pretty much harmless. The safety cut off is designed to shut off the microwave at it's source when the doors open, no door no need for safety switch. I know it can be done I just need a push in the right direction
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Listen to me REAL carefully now. The device you are playing with currently has thousands upon thousands of volts running through it. Unplug it, take it apart and do NOT put it back together.
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Dude lets just assume I know a thing or two about electronics, I'm not looking for a safety lecture I'm looking for sound electrical help. 13 year olds are getting ingredients to homemade chemical explosives on this site, a 13 year old hasn't even been through high school chemistry yet. I'm an apprentice electrician, I work everyday with industrial shit hundreds of times more powerful than a microwave transformer, but I still used some safety precautions, both the transformer and capacitor are in their own grounded housing. I don't go near live wires and I diffuse the capacitor before I reconfigure it. This is the fucking Anarchist Cookbook man c'mon.
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Is this even the right forum or should I be talking to the hackers
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Dude lets just assume I know a thing or two about electronics, I'm not looking for a safety lecture I'm looking for sound electrical help. 13 year olds are getting ingredients to homemade chemical explosives on this site, a 13 year old hasn't even been through high school chemistry yet. I'm an apprentice electrician, I work everyday with industrial shit hundreds of times more powerful than a microwave transformer, but I still used some safety precautions, both the transformer and capacitor are in their own grounded housing. I don't go near live wires and I diffuse the capacitor before I reconfigure it. This is the fucking Anarchist Cookbook man c'mon.
Safety is a big issue, hopefully you do know what you're talking about because if you didn't you're probably going to get fucked up. Anarchist or not, you need to know what you're doing peroid.
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This is how it goes

Alright heres how I see it. The Magnetron is a type of diode, it needs to be hooked up in proper order for it to work plus it needs a massive amount of voltage. The transformer takes 120V from a normal wall socket, drains most the amperage from it and steps up 120V to a much higher voltage (I believe mine is 6,000V). The Magnetron, being a diode, only works on DC current. So a Capacitor and a high Voltage Diode switch the current coming from the wall socket (AC) to a usable form (DC), heres how: AC current is expressed with a sinusoidal wave (the stereotypical one you see on an oscilloscope) DC is just a straight line. The capacitor charges within 1/4 cycle of the wave and holds its charge for when the Sine wave dips into the negative then releasing an equivalent amount of energy. This motion isn't exactly instentanious so there is still a small ripple effect on an oscilloscope. Diodes only allow electricity to travel in one direction so you hook that up after the capacitor and even out the ripple creating an almost perfectly straight DC line. which is hooked up to the Anode of the Magnetron which should then shoot microwaves out the end causing untold chaos and debauchery.
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why do u want to shoot microwaves? just put a fork in it and turn it on. lol

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Alright heres how I see it. The Magnetron is a type of diode, it needs to be hooked up in proper order for it to work plus it needs a massive amount of voltage. The transformer takes 120V from a normal wall socket, drains most the amperage from it and steps up 120V to a much higher voltage (I believe mine is 6,000V). The Magnetron, being a diode, only works on DC current. So a Capacitor and a high Voltage Diode switch the current coming from the wall socket (AC) to a usable form (DC), heres how: AC current is expressed with a sinusoidal wave (the stereotypical one you see on an oscilloscope) DC is just a straight line. The capacitor charges within 1/4 cycle of the wave and holds its charge for when the Sine wave dips into the negative then releasing an equivalent amount of energy. This motion isn't exactly instentanious so there is still a small ripple effect on an oscilloscope. Diodes only allow electricity to travel in one direction so you hook that up after the capacitor and even out the ripple creating an almost perfectly straight DC line. which is hooked up to the Anode of the Magnetron which should then shoot microwaves out the end causing untold chaos and debauchery.
Well since you're some expert with this electricity stuff, you do know the wires can hold MAXIMUM 120 volts right? It's not a good idea to push it to the limit risking a fire or blowing your whole fuse box. Also your house will burn from the inside walls out, unless you have some other alternative.
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