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Old April 2nd, 2008   #1
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Gun Powder-Flash Powder?

ok i think i remeber reading somewhere how to make gun powder... coal?sulfer? and something else... can someone help me with the portions and ingredientsa? and anyone know how to make flash powder from house hold items?
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132.Improvised Black Powder by The Jolly Roger
Black powder can be prepared in a simple, safe manner. It may be used as blasting or gun powder.
Materials:
• Potassium Nitrate, granulated, 3 cups (3/4 liter)
• Wood charcoal, powdered, 2 cups
• Sulfur, powdered, « cup
• Alcohol, 5 pints (2-« liters) (whiskey, rubbing alcohol, etc.)
• Water, 3 cups (3/4 liter)
• Heat source
• 2 buckets - each 2 gallon (7-« liters) capacity, at least one of which is heat resistant (metal, ceramic, etc.)
• Flat window screening, at least 1 foot (30 cm) square
• Large wooden stick
• Cloth, at least 2 feet (60 cm) square
Procedure:
1.Place alcohol in one of the buckets.
2.Place potassium nitrate, charcoal, and sulfur in the heat resistant bucket. Add 1 cup water and mix thoroughly with
wooden stick until all ingredients are dissolved.
3.Add remaining water (2 cups) to mixture. Place bucket on heat source and stir until small bubbles begin to form.
• CAUTION: DO NOT boil mixture. Be sure ALL mixture stays wet. If any is dry, as on sides of pan, it
may ignite!
4.Remove bucket from heat and pour mixture into alcohol while stirring vigorously.
5.Let alcohol mixture stand about 5 minutes. Strain mixture through cloth to obtain black powder. Discard liquid.
Wrap cloth around black powder and squeeze to remove all excess liquid.
6.Place screening over dry bucket. Place workable amount of damp powder on screen and granulate by rubbing solid
through screen. NOTE: If granulated particles appear to stick together and change shape, recombine entire batch
of powder and repeat steps 5 & 6.
7.Spread granulated black powder on flat, dry surface so that layer about « inch (1-¬ cm) is formed. Allow to dry. Use
radiator, or direct sunlight. This should be dried as soon as possible, preferably in an hour. The longer the drying
period, the less effective the black powder.
• CAUTION: Remove from heat AS SOON AS granules are dry. Black powder is now ready to use.
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191.Flash Powder By Dr. Tiel
Here are a few basic precautions to take if you're crazy enough to produce your own flash powder:
1.Grind the oxidizer (KNO3, KClO3, KMnO4, KClO4 etc.) separately in a clean vessel.
2.NEVER grind or sift the mixed composition.
3.Mix the composition on a large paper sheet, by rolling the composition back and forth.
4.Do not store flash compositions, especially any containing Mg.
5.Make very small quantities at first, so you can appreciate the power of such mixtures.
KNO3 50% (by weight)
Mg 50%
It is very important to have the KNO3 very dry, if evolution of ammonia is observed then the KNO3 has water in it.
Very pure and dry KNO3 is needed. KClO3 with Mg or Al metal powders works very well. Many hands, faces and
lives have been lost with such compositions. KMnO4 with Mg or Al is also an extremely powerful flash composition.
KClO4 with Al is generally found in commercial fireworks, this does not mean that it is safe, it is a little safer than
KClO3 above. KýCrýO7 can also be used as an oxidizer for flash powder. The finer the oxidizer and the finer the metal
powder the more powerful the explosive. This of course will also increase the sensitivity of the flash powder.
For a quick flash small quantities can be burnt in the open. Larger quantities (50g or more) ignited in the open can
detonate, they do not need a container to do so.
NOTE: Flash powder in any container will detonate.
Balanced equations of some oxidizer/metal reactions. Only major products are considered. Excess metal powders are
generally used. This excess burns with atmospheric oxygen.
• 4 KNO3 + 10 Mg --> 2 KýO + 2 Ný + 10 MgO + Energy
• KClO3 + 2 Al --> KCl + AlýO3 + Energy
• 3 KClO4 + 8 Al --> 3 KCl + 4 AlýO3 + Energy
• 6 KMnO4 + 14 Al --> 3 KýO + 7 AlýO3 + 6 Mn + Energy
Make Black Powder first if you have never worked with pyrotechnic materials, then think about this stuff.
Dr. Van Tiel - Ph.D. Chemistry
Potassium perchlorate is a lot safer than sodium/potassium chlorate.
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'jcostigan's' black powder recipe (copied) is the 'CIA' or prisipitation method
for making powder, this is a more complicated method which can give better
results if well executed and using good quality chemicals.

But for beginers the ball mill method is much easier and safer

if you want the recipe 'google' it or just search the threads on this sight it has
been written way to many times on this sight
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lol come on guy i no ur the mod but i wasnt ganna retype all thatt shit n he wanted to know
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then don't bother posting it in the first place just tell the guy to use google
or give him a link!
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since this was answered, it should probably be closed, but I have one question, if KNO3 is an oxidizer, as stated, what kind of reaction would it have with sugar. Is their a link that has the strongest OXIDIZER to SUGAR explosion chart?
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i think he is asking what would OXIDIZER and SUGAR do if mixed or set on fire idk.
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