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Old September 15th, 2007   #1
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How diesel engines work
Compressing any gas raises its temperature; this is the method by which fuel is ignited in diesel engines. Air is drawn into the cylinders and is compressed by the pistons at compression ratios as high as 25:1, much higher than used for spark-ignite engines. Near the end of the compression stroke, diesel fuel is injected into the combustion chamber through an injector (or atomizer). The fuel ignites from contact with the air that, due to compression, has been heated to a temperature of about 700–900 °C (1300–1650 °F). The resulting combustion causes increased heat and expansion in the cylinder which increases pressure and moves the piston downward. A connecting rod transmits this motion to a crankshaft to convert linear motion to rotary motion for use as power in a variety of applications. Intake air to the engine is usually controlled by mechanical valves in the cylinder head. For increased power output, most modern diesel engines are equipped with a turbocharger, and in some derivatives, a supercharger to increase intake air volume. Use of an aftercooler/intercooler to cool intake air that has been compressed, and thus heated, by the turbocharger increases the density of the air and typically leads to power and efficiency improvements.

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ghost, will a works bomb get to that high of a temp or not, most likely not, but what temp is required to ignite diesel fuel, will it get to that temp, its not a pressure bomb, its a pressure ignited bomb, would it get to a high enough temp in a glass bottle? realistically, ghost, all bombs are pressure bombs. whether or not if they have fire.
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Realistically, a 'pressure' bomb refers to any mixture of chemicals that produces a relatively slow rate of gas and then bursts it's container. Whilst, yes, explosives work by producing pressure fronts it's much faster then a 'works' bomb. I'm well aware of how diesel works, but, please, look at the pressures involved. A 25:1 ratio (as referenced by your article) is far in excess of anything a brittle glass bottle could hold. There's a reason diesel engines are built form huge chunks of machined alloy.


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so then suggest to me a way to get it to explode correctly
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isnt that a moderator's job along with regulating rules and banning people
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well, first of all, would adding diesel fuel into the works change the chemicle properties and stop the reaction from happening? thats what i should have asked first.
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it's not my job to tell you exactly what to do. It's my job to tell you what WON'T work and point you in the right direction to finding out for yourself whether or not something would happen.

Do your own research. For starters, learn some basic fucking chemistry. Hydrochloric acid is water-based. Diesel is a fuel oil. They're not going to mix. That being said, when shaken it could quite easily undergo substitution to form alkyl chlorides if you get a decent emulsion going. However, based on reactivities, it will preferentially react with the aluminium.
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Drew,
Diesel is farily low in octane.
Octane is resistance to burn.
Gas is more resistant to burn than Diesel.
In high compression gas engines (over 9.5-10.5:1) you want to use higher octane so it does not pre-ignite or detinate.

Diesel engines are a controlled detonation. Hense the diesel 'knock' that makes them so loud.
To clarify before I get corrected about the diesel 'knock' the newer fuel system such as with the HUEI fuel use direct injection, injecting fuel 30deg, 25deg, 20deg etc. . . some up to 10x before TDC (Top Dead Center) creating a constat and several stage burn to elimate the patented diesel 'knock'.

I have no idea why I added this, just thought id share the knowledge and im buzzed.. since i have a degree in auto, diesel and industural technology
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Nono, it was good, glad to see that not everyone is a fucking idiot.
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