I am going to expand a pond I have to about three acres, and I need to tare down the dam on one end of it. I was wondering if CL-18, or aminonitrobenzodifuroxan, would be a good explosive to remove the dam with. I seems like would be a particularly safe explosive seeing as it is resistant to shock, friction, and impact. I have a method of synthesizing it, but I need a way of detonating it. The dam is about 80% concrete and the other 20% is either granite or flint, and it is about 8 ft. wide, 17 ft. tall, and 160 ft. long.


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You're doing it again. Reading some random smart shit and then wrangling it into a post in order to seem smart.

Stop it. You're better then this.

Well, what would you recommend to do the job? As it seems, my ideas are not the right ones for the job. I would rather blow the dam to pieces than use a jackhammer, and after I blow it up I can just push the rubble up with my D3 Cat.

EDIT: If I was going to synthesize some CL-18 would this be the correct way to do it?

Synthesis 1:
Prepare a solution of 2.0 g of pentanitroaniline dissolved in 20 mL of room temperature acetic acid. Slowly add 1.63 g of sodium azide, with stirring, in small portions while keeping the temperature below 32 C. Stir the solution for 15 minutes at 25 C, and then heat the solution on a water bath at 80 C for 1 hour while stirring. Stop heating and let the solution sit at room temperature for 12-16 hours to allow for complete precipitation of the product. Filter to collect the yellow precipitate, wash it with two 25 mL portions of water, and allow to dry. Final yield is nearly 1.2 g or 73%.

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Synthesis 2:
Prepare a solution of 5.0 g of pentanitroaniline dissolved in 800 mL of room temperature dichloroethane. Prepare a second solution of 2.14 g of sodium azide in 50 mL of water. Slowly add the azide solution dropwise to the pentanitroaniline solution while keeping the temperature below 30 C. Stir the mixture for 1 hour at room temperature. Stop stirring and allow the immiscible layers to form, collect the dichloroethane layer and place it in an Erlenmeyer flask. Dry the solvent by adding several grams of anhydrous magnesium sulfate and stirring for 2 hours. Filter to remove the magnesium sulfate, and then place the filtrate in a round-bottomed flask. Reflux the filtrate for 90 minutes, and then allow it to cool to room temperature. While cooling a yellow precipitate should form, filter to collect this material, wash it with one portion of 50 mL of dichloroethane, and allow to dry in the open air. Final yield of CL-18 is a little over 2.3 g or 58%.


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Sure would, but the synth is beyond the capacity of your average kidiot or home explosives tinkerer.

Blasting structures should be done with bulk ANFO or surgical plastique. In the case of the dam, bulk anfo.

Fuck it, though, just go to town with a sledgehammer.

Well, I would like to finish the job within my lifetime, so the sledgehammer would have to be a last resort. Also, I drilled some wholes in it and filled some of them with FP and others with BP, but all that did was put some minor cracks in the outer wall, and make my ears ring for about 15 minutes. In addition, if I was going to use NG, of which I have a modest amount in cold storage (it took me a few tries, but I finally got the synthesis right--I also had some close calls that scared the shit out of me, but I got the mixture on ice before the temp. got too high), how much would I need, and what would be the best way of utilizing it?

EDIT: I had some help from a friend of mine who has a M.S. degree in chemistry, so I didn't do it all on my own; without his help I would of probably gotten myself killed, but next were going to synthesize some nitroguanidine, which as he explained it was a little easier to accomplish.


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the dam is 160ft long. It would take weeks, if not months, to do that shit.

just use a ryder truck full of ANFO, it worked for Mcvey


Pentanitroaniline is an explosive organic compound. Pentanitroaniline can be reacted with ammonia in benzene, dichloromethane or another similar solvent to produce triaminotrinitrobenzene (TATB), a useful explosive. Pentanitroaniline is labeled by the United States Department of Transportation (DoT) as "forbidden explosive" that is too dangerous to transport over public thoroughfares or by air
-Stolen from Wikipedia (at least I edmit it when I do it)


What were you saying about it being safe, or did you mean that other compound? Where are you, personally, gonna get/make this?

Well, the synthesis of the CL-18 might not be that safe, but the final product is relatively insensitive and stable. Also, I didn't get any of this info from Wikipedia, but I did get the method of synthesis from a site.


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Dill holes 3" in diameter as deep as you can, 1 hole every 2 feet. Fill the holes with activated ammonium nitrate/fuel oil slurry. Blasting cap in each shot hole, link with primacord and hook up to a blast box about 400 feet downrange. Hit the button, watch dam go away.

Thanks for the help, but how exactly would I acquire some primacord, it isn't something you can get at your local store or anywhere else for that matter (unless I stole it from a mine), and what would be the best primary for use as a blasting cap?


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In this case, commercial blasting caps and primacord are really the only option you should be considering - You're going to be playing with a lot of explosives, so might as well do it safely (well... safer, at least). I'd suggest using a PETN booster IMO.