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BlackZodiac
September 6th, 2007, 06:08 PM
"PATROL BASE MURRAY, Iraq - From this base in insurgent country south of Baghdad, there are no doubts that the U.S. decision to pour 30,000 additional troops into the fight has had an effect.
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Before the 3rd Infantry Division's 2nd Brigade arrived in mid-June, the area around Patrol Base Murray was known as the Triangle of Death — a safe haven for al-Qaida in Iraq to ambush Shiites, launch mortar and rocket attacks into the Green Zone and rig car bombs, suicide vests and other weapons for use in the capital.

Today, commanders point to the sharp drop in Baghdad attacks — down in August to a quarter of what they had been, according to the top commander Gen. David Petraeus — as evidence of their effectiveness.

"Our job was to stop the flow of accelerants to Baghdad," Lt. Col. Ken Adgie, commander of the 1st Battalion, 30th Infantry Regiment, said Monday, referring to bombs, bullets and fighters that accelerate the conflict.

"Take a look. Have the number of incidents in Baghdad slowed? It's working," he said.

More than just adding more boots on the ground, Petraeus' strategy called for the establishment of smaller combat outposts like Patrol Base Murray to encourage soldiers to get to know the local population and get closer to the insurgency.

The base was built right on "Route Gnat" — the only paved road from the Arab Jabour area into Baghdad. Many of the dirt roads have been shut down, said Brig. Gen. Jim Huggins, the 3rd Division's operational commander for the region.

"It's allowed us to set up a blocking line to interdict the accelerants on the way in — explosives, suicide vests, even fighters — and that's being reflected in what we are seeing in Baghdad," he said.

"You can't always defend from the goal line."

Petraeus is due to report next week to Congress on how the strategy is working, how much longer he needs the extra troops and when Iraqi forces will be ready for their own defense.

Though the progress in Arab Jabour has been encouraging, Adgie cautioned that the fight against insurgents is not like a conventional battlefield where victory — or defeat — are apparent.

"We attack them and they just push away," he said. "But they no longer have free reign."

Still, attacks come regularly against U.S. forces and civilians.

Adgie said he received a report Monday that al-Qaida in Iraq beheaded a 12-year-old boy in the middle of the street because his father was cooperating with the Americans.

"That's the level of evil we're dealing with here," he said.

Huggins took the short helicopter flight to Patrol Base Murray from Baghdad's Green Zone with the Baghdad provincial governor and other Iraqi officials, to sit them down with the local leaders who have been helping Adgie's men.

The U.S. goal is to have locals work directly with the Iraqi government on security and other matters, which will allow for American troops to push farther out in the field.

A convenient side-effect of the increased number of U.S. combat operations has been to make al-Qaida more desperate for recruits. So the extremists resort to violent means to coerce people to join them, which has pushed more local Iraqis to the American side, Huggins explained.

Bases like Murray have also helped provide a sense of security, so people are more willing to cooperate, he said.

Retired Iraqi army Brig. Gen. Mustafa al-Jubouri leads a group of what the U.S. calls "Concerned Local Citizens" — Iraqis who have come forward to help provide security in the area and perform tasks like guarding schools and mosques.

Some of them may have been former insurgents who broke with al-Qaida or other groups.

Most important has been the intelligence that al-Jubouri's followers are able to provide, Adgie said.

"When we got here al-Qaida was able to walk right past us — we didn't know they were al-Qaida, it's not like they had a uniform," he said. "But now we do know them, and we can hunt them down."

On the sidelines of the meeting outside the main building at Patrol Base Murray — one of Uday Hussein's former residences — al-Jubouri was reflective about cooperating with the Americans, suggesting it was a matter of expedience where one's enemy's enemy is a friend.

"It's not working with them, it's cooperation with them to take on the insurgents," he said."

KuKluxKlown
September 12th, 2007, 02:27 AM
What is your source for that story?

Sounds like some Fox News to me.

Im not saying this is beyond al Qaida's capabilities, im saying the credibility of the story is as important as the story itself.

Rasta_Man
September 12th, 2007, 12:38 PM
BlackZodiac now his shit. I also watched this special about Iraq about 2 years ago on PBS. It showed an explosive destroying a humvee and after the people took the torched American soldiers bodies and dragged their bodies threw out Baghdad. And at the end they hung the soldiers up over a br idge and were hitting them like a pinata. It was gross and sad.

BlackZodiac
September 12th, 2007, 02:13 PM
What is your source for that story?

Sounds like some Fox News to me.

Im not saying this is beyond al Qaida's capabilities, im saying the credibility of the story is as important as the story itself.

Forgot to put the source, and I'm not going to bother digging for the article, but what I can do is give you this information.

"For example, recently members of al-Qaida beheaded a 12 year old boy in the middle of the street because his father works with the United States."

Source: http://www.shotpolitics.com/dems-prepare-for-the-petraeus-report.htm

BlackZodiac
September 12th, 2007, 02:17 PM
BlackZodiac now his shit. I also watched this special about Iraq about 2 years ago on PBS. It showed an explosive destroying a humvee and after the people took the torched American soldiers bodies and dragged their bodies threw out Baghdad. And at the end they hung the soldiers up over a br idge and were hitting them like a pinata. It was gross and sad.

Just like Somalia, they wernt American soldiers the men were contractors for the United States army.

Rasta_Man
September 12th, 2007, 03:35 PM
Yah that right. The were hired to transport people.

The Anarchist
September 12th, 2007, 04:37 PM
I have a quick and easy solution to the Islamic terror problem. It's called the Atom Bomb!

A Deo et Rege
September 12th, 2007, 05:26 PM
Now there's an idea I can agree with.:D

BlackZodiac
September 12th, 2007, 06:05 PM
I have a quick and easy solution to the Islamic terror problem. It's called the Atom Bomb!

Would be nice, but it's alot more difficult then that. If the Unted States had made the decision to do that, the aftermath would produce a massive economic blow to the United States.

KuKluxKlown
September 12th, 2007, 08:28 PM
Nukes are so yesterdays mass killing machine

there are much more effective ways to kill thousands upon thousands of people without damaging the enviroment so much...gotta keep those natural resources ripe for the picking.

rebelmarine08
September 12th, 2007, 08:49 PM
Fuck natural resources. A hydrogen bomb with an 8 Mega ton yield only rips a little whole in the earth's atmosphere. And what kind of resources would you want from that hell hole?

BlackZodiac
September 12th, 2007, 09:32 PM
Fuck natural resources. A hydrogen bomb with an 8 Mega ton yield only rips a little whole in the earth's atmosphere. And what kind of resources would you want from that hell hole?

Oil, the main thing the United States military needs to run.

A Deo et Rege
September 12th, 2007, 09:37 PM
You could drop massive quantities of cyanide, it would not bother the oil and kill all who inhaled it.

BlackZodiac
September 12th, 2007, 09:54 PM
You could drop massive quantities of cyanide, it would not bother the oil and kill all who inhaled it.

So now you're going to spend all that money to produce and transport millions gallons of cyanide to drop on people? Which is against many human rights laws and warfare? But it's ok for the United States to drop millions of cyanide but not ok for Saddam to gas Kurds?

JerseyDevil13
September 17th, 2007, 08:59 AM
Only ! person so far has made any sence with this whole topic n that was BlackZodiac.....
yea we should bomb the fuck outta em but we cant wit all the fuckin hippies nowadays we gotta go over ourselfs n Mass WACKKK those bastards Boon Dock Saints Style Im leavin in about 3 mounths when i got every thing planned message me if ur interested

rebelmarine08
September 17th, 2007, 11:32 PM
Russia claims the Arctic Circle with the most massive oil reserves on the planet. I don't give a damn about those mujahideen mother fuckers, or their oil. And the main thing our military needs is troops.

BlackZodiac
September 20th, 2007, 09:31 PM
Russia claims the Arctic Circle with the most massive oil reserves on the planet. I don't give a damn about those mujahideen mother fuckers, or their oil. And the main thing our military needs is troops.

Yeah and a whole lot of income to pay off that outstanding debt their in.

superflysuperwhite
September 20th, 2007, 09:40 PM
WOW... ya know.... theres just so many better things you can do with a twelve year old then behead them. like shoot'em out of a cannon


but yeah wow thats messed up

itismesaj
September 20th, 2007, 09:59 PM
Most of our debt is inter-departmental. I'm not too concerned about our national deficit.

BlackZodiac
September 21st, 2007, 05:30 PM
Most of our debt is inter-departmental. I'm not too concerned about our national deficit.

"Most of our debt is inter-departmental"
-Yeah which they owe money to regardless, and it's not "most" either.

"The United States public debt, commonly called the national debt, gross federal debt or U.S. government debt, is the amount of money owed by the United States federal government to creditors who hold U.S. Debt Instruments. As of the end of 2006, the total U.S. federal public debt was $4.9 trillion.

This does not include the money owed by states, corporations, or individuals, nor does it include the money owed to Social Security beneficiaries in the future. If intragovernment debt obligations are included, the debt figure rises to $9 trillion.[1] If unfunded Medicaid, Social Security, etc. promises are added this figure rises dramatically to a total of $59.1 Trillion.[2]. In 2005 the public debt was 64.7% of GDP According to the CIA's World Factbook."

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_public_debt

itismesaj
September 21st, 2007, 07:15 PM
It doesn't matter if they owe money to other parts of the Federal Government, because it's all the same government.

The public debt is in terms of money. The Bureau of Public Debt pays this debt in other ways than money, things such as Treasury bills, bonds, and the like. These aren't recorded in the public debt, as the Treasury technically hasn't paid money. According to WikiPedia.

That's why I don't mind the public debt.