Abortion- prochoice or prolife??

[Prochoice166]

Hey... this is my first post on here, i've been meaning to get an account cause I always read everything everyone has to say.

but... I wanted to kind of take a poll and see people's opinions.

In matters of abortion, are you Pro-Choice or Pro-Life, and why??

Personally, I'm Pro-Choice. A woman can do to her body whatever she wants. You can't force anyone to give birth.

[SuperSkunk]

On the matter of abortion Im pro-hungry. (yes a fetus eatting joke)

but seriously pro-choice for exactly the same reasons as you.

[***Damage Prone***]

The whole pro life concept is retarted..
who is any body to tell someone there ready to give birth
if you personally cant take care of a child, abortion is the best option
better not having a kid than having it grow up in a shitty inviroment...

but thats just my views

[Rasta_Man]

The whole idea of obortion should be left of the the woman who is having the baby alone. Who is anybody to tell anybody anything? if you know what i mean. If somebody is not ready for a baby they shoudnt have one. If a woman gets raped she should have a choice is she wants it or not. There are to many people in the world as it is anyway.
I think if you are going to kill your baby you should give it up for stem cell research or some kind of scientific research.

[porch_monkey_slave_killa2]

yea dont take this the wrong way but until you have a first hand encounter with the idea of abortion its knid of hard to choose but im pro life because i once got a girl pregnat and 4 months into it she had one cause she said she didnt want to be with me and couldnt carry my child and i feel that it is very wrong and it hurts like heel to know that your soon to be wonderful bundle of joy was just murdered by its mother it really bothers me still now

[Rasta_Man]

Im sorry to hear that. But if you convinced her to keep it when she really didnt want to (and i dont know her habits, or your whole situation), she might do drugs, not eat properly, or anything else to hurt the baby.
I understand though the choice should have been up to both of you.

[porch_monkey_slave_killa2]

its cool i mean she didnt really have bad habits and all she stopped when she found out but yea it hurt and i feel now that i hate the abortions and all and my thoughts on that is that if you feel adult enough to give or take a cock then you should be adult enough to take on the responcibilities with sex

[Rasta_Man]

Right, you need to bo responsible when it comes to sex. The last thing you need is your dick to fall off.

[oxyG]

hahah yeah thats the last thing anyone needs...lmao

but im pro-choice,,its a womens choice period..no argument there..but i understand where prolife people are coming from,,it is a living baby that is being killed..but with that reasoning i think all the pro-life ppl whos reasoning is its a living baby (not personal things like porch monkey) but for that reasoning id like to see them all become vegetarians but most ppld ont understand how that stuff is the same..im no vegetarian but im not pro-life either, but i just think to deny a womens rights and choice with what she does with her body is rediculous

[FukdHeadXD]

I'll go with damage prone on this one.

[Prochoice166]

"yea dont take this the wrong way but until you have a first hand encounter with the idea of abortion its knid of hard to choose but im pro life"


I HAVE had a first hand encounter. In fact, I'm currently pregnant and scheduling for an abortion. We both have agreed on it, however think of how the girl feels too. I mean just because she decides to get an abortion doesn't mean that she's heartless. She's looking out for her life and it wouldn't be fair to her to stop everything to raise a baby she wasn't even responsible enough to have in the first place. I'm personally taking a pill for abortion... and from what the doctors have told me, it hurts. You get very strong cramps, headaches, nausea, dizziness, not to mention profusely bleeding for 9-16 days. That on top of you making her feel guilty for making her own choice to get rid of the baby, well, let's just say the thing you should do if your girlfriend/whoever is getting an abortion, you need to be supportive, and if you ARE pro-life, at least comfort her when she's going through all the pain. Even though it was her choice, you're both still in it together (should you choose to not be an asshole and actually stick around).

okay, i've spoken my peace. lol.

[porch_monkey_slave_killa2]

yea but she had no reason no to have my kid she just wanted to kill it she sauid it was going to cause her 9 months of pain

[Rasta_Man]

... and from what the doctors have told me, it hurts. You get very strong cramps, headaches, nausea, dizziness, not to mention profusely bleeding for 9-16 days...

Wow that sounds sexy...

But i agree with you. You should only have a baby when your ready.

[thedragonforce]

i dont like abortion but i beleive there should be a choise

[huffman0]

I find it very confusing that if you murder a pregnant woman you get charged with 2 counts of murder while if you abort, you get no legal penalty whatsoever. Another thing, I do believe in certain cases like rape, women should be allowed the option of abortion, however, if you become pregnant and there is nothing like rape involved, you should not be allowed the option of abortion. This is because like porch monkey said, you need to be responsible with your sexual choices.

[pilot1215]

Im pro-life yet if the pregnant women finds out her Baby is serverly deformed and could not live long then get an abortion because that kid after birth will prolly bein constant agony and will want to die

[Palm3R]

I find it very confusing that if you murder a pregnant woman you get charged with 2 counts of murder while if you abort, you get no legal penalty whatsoever. Another thing, I do believe in certain cases like rape, women should be allowed the option of abortion, however, if you become pregnant and there is nothing like rape involved, you should not be allowed the option of abortion. This is because like porch monkey said, you need to be responsible with your sexual choices.

I agree with ya there... I don't think abortion is "murder" but people shouldn't get them just because they didn't want a child er something dumb like that.

[Sarah]

i believe that abortion is murder hard core! if a woman gets raped, have the child if you don't want it put it up for adoption. the child is ALIVE! would you kill your 3 month old child? NO you would not! you would not just go and suck it's brains out of it's head! so why would you do that to your unborn child? they too are alive. The only time i believe there is a choice is if having the child is going to kill the mother then it's a one life or the other and it becomes the womans choice other wise let the child live for heavens sake!!!!!!!

PRO-LIFE.

[ecko]

I'm in the middle.

The mother shouldn't have the child if it is in a shitty enviorment, but if she adopts, it will be fucked up in a foster home.

I think I am actually for abortion, but I don't know.

[Kasnia]

I'm pro-choice, all the way.

And TOTAL ban of abortion is just wrong. There are certain cases where if the baby is born, it will not live, and also the mother has a very high risk of dying too. That's a case where abortion isn't wrong.

But abortion shouldn't be used as just birth control. Granted, I know some women don't want to have to go through birth, some are way too young to have to do that, etc. But you could always just have the child and give it up for adoption.

[superflysuperwhite]

yeah im pro-choice but, i do think if theres no danger then putting the child up for adoption is a much better idea

[ecko]

Yeah, I agree with superflysuperwhite.

It wouldn't be a bad idea to do that, just think about the baby, you know?

You would have to go through a guilt trip after you have aborted.

[Sionyx]

"There are certain cases where if the baby is born, it will not live, and also the mother has a very high risk of dying too. That's a case where abortion isn't wrong."

It is legal to do this already. They just label it as a "miscarriage" rather than an abortion. The topic of abortion is usually directed towards fetuses which may still be viable. The whole issue will always divide people.

I'm Pro-Choice for all cases, regardless of their reasoning. If they can live with themselves after having an abortion, then they should be able to - but birth control should be used if you are sexually active and not wanting to bear a child.

[LNT-5265F]

yeah im pro-choice but, i do think if theres no danger then putting the child up for adoption is a much better idea

couldn't have said it better myself. My sister is adopted. I love her more than anything else in the world.

the rest of you suck. superfly's right.

anyone know what a zygote is? how about a blastocyst? anyone? at all? that's what i fuckin thought.
none of you are even qualified to make an educated opinion on this shit..... so shut the fuck up, till you do your research and learn about what your trying to argue over

Edit:
Andrew, shut up - you and i could argue this for a month straight and none of these kids would get it.
Ray, your opinion is as valuable as cory's just cuz you my homie

[Sionyx]

anyone know what a zygote is? how about a blastocyst? anyone? at all? that's what i fuckin thought.
none of you are even qualified to make an educated opinion on this shit..... so shut the fuck up, till you do your research and learn about what your trying to argue over


Studied the anatomy of humans at a highschool and university level and I have studied the abortion issue at my university. I know what I am talking about, for the most part.

[Kasnia]

"There are certain cases where if the baby is born, it will not live, and also the mother has a very high risk of dying too. That's a case where abortion isn't wrong."

It is legal to do this already. They just label it as a "miscarriage" rather than an abortion. The topic of abortion is usually directed towards fetuses which may still be viable. The whole issue will always divide people.
child.

What I meant is that some people think that abortion is ALWAYS wrong and should never be used, even in cases like that.

[LNT-5265F]

@sionyx


yay! wanna christmas cookie?

[Sionyx]

"What I meant is that some people think that abortion is ALWAYS wrong and should never be used, even in cases like that."

yep, and i love arguing with them because it is so easy to crush their arguments and make them look like fools.

@LNT: Christmas cookie? Hell yeah, i would love one :D

[pilot1215]

couldn't have said it better myself. My sister is adopted. I love her more than anything else in the world.

the rest of you suck. superfly's right.

anyone know what a zygote is? how about a blastocyst? anyone? at all? that's what i fuckin thought.
none of you are even qualified to make an educated opinion on this shit..... so shut the fuck up, till you do your research and learn about what your trying to argue over

Edit:
Andrew, shut up - you and i could argue this for a month straight and none of these kids would get it.
Ray, your opinion is as valuable as cory's just cuz you my homie

studied it in 9th grade

[superflysuperwhite]

wow 9th grade biology yeah that makes you an expert

not saying im one but, you get my point

[squirrel masta]

im pro choice in cases of rape and shit like that. it happened to a close friend and if you think shes wrong for getting an abortion then your a piece of shit that can go fuck a goat

[superflysuperwhite]

i think it could all be settled by a good kick in the stomach and a nce fall down a flight of stairs ^_^

[Sionyx]

hahahahaha

That is what happens when abortion is not legalized. If abortion is not legalized, then it will be taking place anyways in unsafe matters. Women are willing to chug back half a bottle of vitamin D (i think, one of the vitamins anyways) in order to have an unsafe "miscarriage".

Abortion has been conducted since there was a way discovered to have one and there will always be abortions. Might as well make them conducted in a safe environment under controlled circumstances.

(if I offend anyone, well, I am drunk and really don't have a good excuse... so yeah...)

[superflysuperwhite]

well all abortions are dangerous, just not as funny

[LNT-5265F]

hahahahaha

That is what happens when abortion is not legalized. If abortion is not legalized, then it will be taking place anyways in unsafe matters. Women are willing to chug back half a bottle of vitamin D (i think, one of the vitamins anyways) in order to have an unsafe "miscarriage".

Abortion has been conducted since there was a way discovered to have one and there will always be abortions. Might as well make them conducted in a safe environment under controlled circumstances.

(if I offend anyone, well, I am drunk and really don't have a good excuse... so yeah...)

ever heard of the coat hanger method?

[huffman0]

ah i have lol they just poke around up there. they made a joke on family guy about that once peter came down the steps with one and says "Meg i gotta do this get up." and there was a shirt underneath her haha

[neural.disruption]

Well I think abortion should be mandatory in some cases...(when the baby will suffer all his/her life because of some strange disease/mutation)
As for adoption well in every kid adopted there are a lot of them that will live in some institution, so we all know how well that works for many kids, we could have better institutions but currently there are none.

[Sionyx]

"ever heard of the coat hanger method?"

Yep. Really a shitty way to do it and can be quite damaging to the cervix if you fuck up (and even still can be if not). Also would be quite painful too.

"when the baby will suffer all his/her life because of some strange disease/mutation"

I would not go as far as saying "mandatory", as there are a few mutations/diseases that are not really all that damaging psychologically or physically (like being a carrier of sickle cell anemia), but something like harlequin ichthyosis, yeah... nuff said.

In case you have never seen one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLmhGb4ZdZo

[Buddha]

I have enough things going on in my head, abortion is'nt one of them. I don't waste my time thinking about it.

[Buddha]

Sionyx, that is going to haunt my dreams.

[neural.disruption]

Sionyx, that was the kind of stuff I was talking about... sickle cell are minor mutations that are manageable with treatment, by strange I was only talking about diseases that make people unable to ever have a normal life.

[huffman0]

that things horrible sionyx!!! omg its sickening, so unfortunate.

[superflysuperwhite]

sickle cells can actually prevent a persone from getting aids

whats the vid, an abortion... i rather not

[huffman0]

nah it's of that thing sionyx talked about not abortion but probably just as nasty!

[Sionyx]

sickle cells can actually prevent a persone from getting aids

You're thinking of malaria. If you have the trait from one parent, then you are going to have a very small limit to your strength/endurance (as you will get a minor reduction of oxygen/nutrients because of inefficient red blood cell formation) but you will be protected from malaria (and possibly some other diseases that affect the red blood cells as well). If you have the trait from both parents, then you will have severe sickling of the blood cells where you will have severe deficit in strength and endurance. This can be managed with blood transfusions (can't remember how often) for the remainder of your life.

You can still get aids because aids affects your white blood cells and not your red blood cells.

[oxyG]

You're thinking of malaria. .
hahaha

didnt read the rest but aids malaria..its all the same right?

haha

[AlbertWesker]

A woman CAN do whatever she wants to her body but when she kills her unborn child she is commiting this act to someone elses body!

[AlbertWesker]

Also since I put my faith in God I think people should do as HE said which is do NOT kill!

[Sionyx]

"whats the vid, an abortion..."

that video was a child that was born normally with the genetic disease harlequin ichitosis.

A woman CAN do whatever she wants to her body

nope. there are laws against indecent exposure, and then there is the long fucking list of things that you cannot do as out forth by society. when you actually look at it, there is not much that you can really do (not that you would really want to do 1/2 of the things anyways).

in other words, you're wrong. the theory of "my body, my choice" is a completely retarded and contradicting argument that is completely false.

when she kills her unborn child she is commiting this act to someone elses body!

there is a difference between killing something and not allowing it to leech off of you.

IF your argument was true, then everyone would be thrown in jail for letting all of the thousands of people that starve to death on a daily basis die.

just because someone will die if you do not do something, that does not mean that you must comply with what would make them live. too lazy to actually give an example of this.

since I put my faith in God I think people should do as HE said which is do NOT kill!

abortion is no more murder than killing a yeast infection or a parasitic tapeworm.

also, if "God" were to really be who we claim him to be, then he would understand why we would not want the child. if he does not understand, then he is not the god we thought he was. if he enacts revenge upon us for living the life he gave us and making our own choices, as he did give us free will for a reason, then is he worthy of our worship nor the title of "God"

[AlbertWesker]

"yea dont take this the wrong way but until you have a first hand encounter with the idea of abortion its knid of hard to choose but im pro life"


I HAVE had a first hand encounter. In fact, I'm currently pregnant and scheduling for an abortion. We both have agreed on it, however think of how the girl feels too. I mean just because she decides to get an abortion doesn't mean that she's heartless. She's looking out for her life and it wouldn't be fair to her to stop everything to raise a baby she wasn't even responsible enough to have in the first place. I'm personally taking a pill for abortion... and from what the doctors have told me, it hurts. You get very strong cramps, headaches, nausea, dizziness, not to mention profusely bleeding for 9-16 days. That on top of you making her feel guilty for making her own choice to get rid of the baby, well, let's just say the thing you should do if your girlfriend/whoever is getting an abortion, you need to be supportive, and if you ARE pro-life, at least comfort her when she's going through all the pain. Even though it was her choice, you're both still in it together (should you choose to not be an asshole and actually stick around).

okay, i've spoken my peace. lol.
I think if a woman does not want to have the child then she should give it up for adoption there are many women out there who can't have a child on their own but who want to badly!

[AlbertWesker]

"whats the vid, an abortion..."

that video was a child that was born normally with the genetic disease harlequin ichitosis.



nope. there are laws against indecent exposure, and then there is the long fucking list of things that you cannot do as out forth by society. when you actually look at it, there is not much that you can really do (not that you would really want to do 1/2 of the things anyways).

in other words, you're wrong. the theory of "my body, my choice" is a completely retarded and contradicting argument that is completely false.



there is a difference between killing something and not allowing it to leech off of you.

IF your argument was true, then everyone would be thrown in jail for letting all of the thousands of people that starve to death on a daily basis die.

just because someone will die if you do not do something, that does not mean that you must comply with what would make them live. too lazy to actually give an example of this.



abortion is no more murder than killing a yeast infection or a parasitic tapeworm.

also, if "God" were to really be who we claim him to be, then he would understand why we would not want the child. if he does not understand, then he is not the god we thought he was. if he enacts revenge upon us for living the life he gave us and making our own choices, as he did give us free will for a reason, then is he worthy of our worship nor the title of "God"
God does not and cannot understand why you do not want the child because he wants the child badly enough to DIE for the child!

[AlbertWesker]

Now do NOT get me wrong if suffering is relieved by killing the sufferer then I really have no problem with that and I don't think God would either! Unless the suffering can be relieved in some other way!

[Admiral]

To be perfectly honest, in my opinion I know that, as a guy, I will never have to go through childbirth (the first time was bad enough, anyway). Therefore, why the fuck should I, or any male-figure, have any opinion in the matter of whether or not a woman keeps her baby? The only exemption to this is in the case of the father; he should at least have some amount of say.

Also, if I'm an agnostic does that still bind me to "His" rules?

[Admiral]

Addendum: I'd consider adoption to be a better alternative to abortion if it's safe for the baby.