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AnarchistCooker
June 20th, 2007, 03:45 PM
Nazism:
The belife of a perfect utopian soceity, with the following of no Communists, Polish, Jews, Blacks, British, French, or Dutch. In Mein Kumpf, Hitler discribes how the Germans are the #1 race of all of the World, which means he will make a Invasion of most countries in the World, making the Earth, 100% German.
Socialism:
The belife of everyone is equal in a worlds point of view, also the learning point into Karl Marx's 3 Steps into Communism. This means: Same Pay, Same paid Vacations, Same power as everyone, and Same age Retirement, Guarenteed.
Communism:
The belife of EVERYONE is equal in the Communist State. Otherwise known as a Controlled Anarchy. Everyone is equal, No violence, and the people own their own property willing to do whatever, and however they want.
Capitalism:
The belife of power to the people. Allowing world trade through other Capitalist countries. Allowing for property owned by yourself, however in the land of the Country, the Government is allowed to go onto the property with a Warrent. Allowing freedom of speech, and other un-useful rights.
Why should I care?
Your Government controls your damn life, weather you pick who you side on, and whatever, you must decide on where you stand on life, You shithead people don't realise that your the people and you can do whatever the hell you want and overthrow these Pigs out of Office, wherever you live, weather Russia, North Korea, China, or America, I don't care. You need to start paying attention and realise if your government is doing the right thing or not.
BlackZodiac
June 20th, 2007, 04:34 PM
You're not even able to vote yet so why the fuck are you trying to tell us the governments around the world are corrupt?
monster112
June 20th, 2007, 07:13 PM
I hope you realiZe that just because you take a social studies class it doesn't make you any smarter than the bodies that govern you. Anyways you wouldn't even know half of what you have learned if it wasn't for your government. I'm not much older than you but i pay taxes and thank god everyday that we're not all pinko basterds, or skin heads, or little fuckin tree-huggin ninnies. And I especially thank god that those shit eatin sand niggers dont blow up the east coast.
In a communist government, the government owns everything, thats what makes everybody, equally poor.
superflysuperwhite
June 20th, 2007, 10:11 PM
AH-HA none of those will ever work, for the mane point being that the whole world would have to be the same thing, witch means a take over and people dieing and shit lie that, look at ww2 it was facism trying to spread, did it work NO. and look what happend to the U.S.S.R it sucked and was taken over by DEMOCRACY with no blood shed. AND another mane pointe people are to greedy to keep those govn'ts.
DONT JUST LOOK AT THE SHIT WRITEN ON PAPER AND LOOK AT THE GOOD POINTS. think about what your reading and then try to make a arguement about it.
AnarchistCooker
June 21st, 2007, 12:23 AM
learn to spell facism "nazism" isnt a fucking word
Yo buddy, Shut the hell up and research it. -.-
AnarchistCooker
June 21st, 2007, 12:28 AM
AH-HA none of those will ever work, for the mane point being that the whole world would have to be the same thing, witch means a take over and people dieing and shit lie that, look at ww2 it was facism trying to spread, did it work NO. and look what happend to the U.S.S.R it sucked and was taken over by DEMOCRACY with no blood shed. AND another mane pointe people are to greedy to keep those govn'ts.
DONT JUST LOOK AT THE SHIT WRITEN ON PAPER AND LOOK AT THE GOOD POINTS. think about what your reading and then try to make a arguement about it.
No your just retarded. The USSR was the equal power to America, at the time. The USSR fell and is planning to come back up in a few decades, the reason why they fell was because of money, they used Democracy for a get rich quick sceme. Also, I've been argueing with everyone about the Communist/Socialist Belifes. Also, lets look at a few things that the USSR did for us today.
- First to put the Rocket in Space
- Spreaded the world of Socialism, which made China what they are today, which is our #1 need of Economy. The US Econemy would fail without Socialism.
- Made the White Race
- Made Ideas for most of the laws that we use today, for example: Seat Belt Laws, Helmet Laws, and so on for laws that protect you. From yourself, Which most of the idiots on this site who don't know what the hell they are doing need.
AnarchistCooker
June 21st, 2007, 12:30 AM
I hope you realiZe that just because you take a social studies class it doesn't make you any smarter than the bodies that govern you. Anyways you wouldn't even know half of what you have learned if it wasn't for your government. I'm not much older than you but i pay taxes and thank god everyday that we're not all pinko basterds, or skin heads, or little fuckin tree-huggin ninnies. And I especially thank god that those shit eatin sand niggers dont blow up the east coast.
In a communist government, the government owns everything, thats what makes everybody, equally poor.
You didn't even read do you? THERE IS NO FUCKING GOVERNMENT IN COMMUNISM. The USSR was Socialism. Stalin the fucking retard made it the 'Communist' Party for Propaganda reasons. -_-
AnarchistCooker
June 21st, 2007, 12:31 AM
You're not even able to vote yet so why the fuck are you trying to tell us the governments around the world are corrupt?
1.) Voting is for Capitalists, Which I'm not.
2.) Age doesn't matter.
3.) I don't care?
now i know
June 21st, 2007, 01:14 AM
GOD DAMN YOU HUMAN NATURE! GOD DAMN YOU!!!!!! We shouldn’t have government, we shouldn’t have rules, we shouldn’t have greed, and no one should be, or should want to be in control of someone else in any way. The list just goes on, and on, and on with similar things, but that’s just saying what there shouldn’t be, now the problem is just when is all of this going to change? And also this means there has to be a what should there be list, witch is all relative to the person. Only if there was no differences in what everyone thinks there should be. Everyone should just make there own rules, and try not to interfere with the rules of others. Sure, this either requires complete seclusion from everyone else so you can live out your own rules with peace, or be able to deal with others own personal rules in an environment when your interacting with another human, but if there rules go against what yours are then do you fight for it, or do you just walk away? I say you fight for it. The only way (like I said before) is for everyone one to have the same rules and ideas, which I cant say isn’t going to happen, but at least wont happen in any situation or time that we can imagine…..or will it? And another answer is how about humans just stop acting human? You should through away all little scraps of humanity you have left and Reject then the obscenities of contrived uniformity, order and purpose. Turn and face the tidal wave of Chaos. Leap in and come out surfing its crest, sporting amidst the limitless weirdness and mystery in all things, for those who reject false certainties. Thank Chaos we shall never exhaust it. Create, destroy, enjoy, TO CHAOS! …ââ ¡Ã‚¬Ã‚¦Ã¢â‚¬Â¦Ã ¢â‚¬Â¦Ã¢â‚ ¬Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¦o, im sorry, am I going on? Whew, that was close, I felt a never ending cycle coming on. Good thing I stopped myself.
Random thoughts:
beliefs are not ends in themselves, but tools for creating desired effects. To fully realize this is to face a terrible freedom in which Nothing is True and Everything is Permitted, which is to say that everything is possible, there are no certainties, and the consequences can be ghastly. Laughter seems to be the only defense against the realization that one does not even have a real self.
Thus Chaoism proclaims the Death and Rebirth of the Gods. Our subconscious creativity and parapsychological powers are more than adequate to create or destroy any god or self or demon or other "spiritual" entity that we may choose to invest or disinvest belief in, at least for ourselves and sometimes others as well. The frequently awesome results attaining by creating gods by act of ritually behaving as though they exist should not lead into the abyss of attributing ultimate reality to anything. That is the transcendentalist mistake,, which leads to the narrowing of the spectrum of the self. The real awesomeness lies in the range of things we can discover ourselves capable of, even if we may temporarily have to believe the effects are due to something else, in order to be able to create them. The gods are dead. Long live the gods.
both reality and human condition have a game like quality. The game is open ended, and plays itself for amusement. Players can make up their own rules to some extent, and cheat by using parapsychology if desired.
We should all be people who have sold there soul for the chance of participating more fully in reality. Only when nothing is true, and the idea of a true self is abandoned, does everything become permitted. There is some accuracy in the Faust myth, but he failed to take it to its logical conclusion.
It is the meta-belief that belief is a tool for achieving effects. This effect is often far easier to observe in others than in oneself. It is usually quite easy to see how other people, and indeed entire cultures, are both enabled and disabled by the beliefs they hold. Beliefs tend to lead to activities which tend to reconfirm belief in a circle they call virtuous rather than vicious, even if the results are not amusing. The first stage of seeing through the game can be a shocking enlightenment that leads either to a weary cynicism or Buddhism. The second stage of actually applying the insight to oneself can destroy the illusion of the soul and create a true human. The realization that belief is a tool rather than an end in itself has immense consequences if fully accepted. Within the limits set by physical possibility, and these limits are wider and more malleable than most people believe, one can make real any beliefs one chooses, including contradictionary beliefs. The human is not striving for any particular limited identity goal, rather he wants the meta-identity of being able to be anything.
So welcome to the Kali Yuga of the Pandaemonaeon wherein nothing is true and everything is permissable. For in these post-absolutist days it is better to build upon the shifting sands than the rock which will confound you on the day it shatters. Philosophers have become no more than the keepers of useful sarcasms, for the secret is out that there is no secret of the universe. All is Chaos and evolution is going nowhere in particular. It is pure chance which rules the universe and thus, and only thus, is life good. We are born accidentally into a random world where only seeming causes lead to apparent effects, and very little is predetermined, thank Chaos. As everything is arbitrary and accidental then perhaps these words are too small and pejorative, rather we should perhaps say that life, the universe and everything is spontaneously creative and magical.
Relishing stochastic reality we can revel exclusively in magical definitions of existence. The roads of excess may yet lead to the place of wisdom, and many indeterminate things can happen on the way to thermodynamic equilibrium. It is vain to seek solid ground on which to stand. Solidity is an illusion, as is the foot which stands on it, and the self which thinks it owns either is the most transparent illusion of all.
The heavy vessels of faith are holed and sinking along with all lifeboats and ingenious rafts. So will you shop at the supermarket of sensation and let your consumer preferences define your true self? Or will you in a bold and lighthearted fashion, thieve from both for the fun of it? For belief is a tool for achieving whatever one chooses to consider important or pleasurable, and sensation has no other purpose than sensation. Thus help yourself to them without paying the price. Sacrifice Truth for Freedom at every opportunity. The greatest fun, freedom and achievement lies not being yourself. There is little merit in simply being whomsoever you were destined to be by accident of birth and circumstance. Hell is the condition of having no alternatives.
AnarchistCooker
June 21st, 2007, 01:20 AM
GOD DAMN YOU HUMAN NATURE! GOD DAMN YOU!!!!!! We shouldn’t have government, we shouldn’t have rules, we shouldn’t have greed, and no one should be, or should want to be in control of someone else in any way. The list just goes on, and on, and on with similar things, but that’s just saying what there shouldn’t be, now the problem is just when is all of this going to change? And also this means there has to be a what should there be list, witch is all relative to the person. Only if there was no differences in what everyone thinks there should be. Everyone should just make there own rules, and try not to interfere with the rules of others. Sure, this either requires complete seclusion from everyone else so you can live out your own rules with peace, or be able to deal with others own personal rules in an environment when your interacting with another human, but if there rules go against what yours are then do you fight for it, or do you just walk away? I say you fight for it. The only way (like I said before) is for everyone one to have the same rules and ideas, which I cant say isn’t going to happen, but at least wont happen in any situation or time that we can imagine…..or will it? And another answer is how about humans just stop acting human? You should through away all little scraps of humanity you have left and Reject then the obscenities of contrived uniformity, order and purpose. Turn and face the tidal wave of Chaos. Leap in and come out surfing its crest, sporting amidst the limitless weirdness and mystery in all things, for those who reject false certainties. Thank Chaos we shall never exhaust it. Create, destroy, enjoy, TO CHAOS! …ââ ¡Ã‚¬Ã‚¦Ã¢â‚¬Â¦Ã ¢â‚¬Â¦Ã¢â‚ ¬Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¦o, im sorry, am I going on? Whew, that was close, I felt a never ending cycle coming on. Good thing I stopped myself.
Random thoughts:
beliefs are not ends in themselves, but tools for creating desired effects. To fully realize this is to face a terrible freedom in which Nothing is True and Everything is Permitted, which is to say that everything is possible, there are no certainties, and the consequences can be ghastly. Laughter seems to be the only defense against the realization that one does not even have a real self.
Thus Chaoism proclaims the Death and Rebirth of the Gods. Our subconscious creativity and parapsychological powers are more than adequate to create or destroy any god or self or demon or other "spiritual" entity that we may choose to invest or disinvest belief in, at least for ourselves and sometimes others as well. The frequently awesome results attaining by creating gods by act of ritually behaving as though they exist should not lead into the abyss of attributing ultimate reality to anything. That is the transcendentalist mistake,, which leads to the narrowing of the spectrum of the self. The real awesomeness lies in the range of things we can discover ourselves capable of, even if we may temporarily have to believe the effects are due to something else, in order to be able to create them. The gods are dead. Long live the gods.
both reality and human condition have a game like quality. The game is open ended, and plays itself for amusement. Players can make up their own rules to some extent, and cheat by using parapsychology if desired.
We should all be people who have sold there soul for the chance of participating more fully in reality. Only when nothing is true, and the idea of a true self is abandoned, does everything become permitted. There is some accuracy in the Faust myth, but he failed to take it to its logical conclusion.
It is the meta-belief that belief is a tool for achieving effects. This effect is often far easier to observe in others than in oneself. It is usually quite easy to see how other people, and indeed entire cultures, are both enabled and disabled by the beliefs they hold. Beliefs tend to lead to activities which tend to reconfirm belief in a circle they call virtuous rather than vicious, even if the results are not amusing. The first stage of seeing through the game can be a shocking enlightenment that leads either to a weary cynicism or Buddhism. The second stage of actually applying the insight to oneself can destroy the illusion of the soul and create a true human. The realization that belief is a tool rather than an end in itself has immense consequences if fully accepted. Within the limits set by physical possibility, and these limits are wider and more malleable than most people believe, one can make real any beliefs one chooses, including contradictionary beliefs. The human is not striving for any particular limited identity goal, rather he wants the meta-identity of being able to be anything.
So welcome to the Kali Yuga of the Pandaemonaeon wherein nothing is true and everything is permissable. For in these post-absolutist days it is better to build upon the shifting sands than the rock which will confound you on the day it shatters. Philosophers have become no more than the keepers of useful sarcasms, for the secret is out that there is no secret of the universe. All is Chaos and evolution is going nowhere in particular. It is pure chance which rules the universe and thus, and only thus, is life good. We are born accidentally into a random world where only seeming causes lead to apparent effects, and very little is predetermined, thank Chaos. As everything is arbitrary and accidental then perhaps these words are too small and pejorative, rather we should perhaps say that life, the universe and everything is spontaneously creative and magical.
Relishing stochastic reality we can revel exclusively in magical definitions of existence. The roads of excess may yet lead to the place of wisdom, and many indeterminate things can happen on the way to thermodynamic equilibrium. It is vain to seek solid ground on which to stand. Solidity is an illusion, as is the foot which stands on it, and the self which thinks it owns either is the most transparent illusion of all.
The heavy vessels of faith are holed and sinking along with all lifeboats and ingenious rafts. So will you shop at the supermarket of sensation and let your consumer preferences define your true self? Or will you in a bold and lighthearted fashion, thieve from both for the fun of it? For belief is a tool for achieving whatever one chooses to consider important or pleasurable, and sensation has no other purpose than sensation. Thus help yourself to them without paying the price. Sacrifice Truth for Freedom at every opportunity. The greatest fun, freedom and achievement lies not being yourself. There is little merit in simply being whomsoever you were destined to be by accident of birth and circumstance. Hell is the condition of having no alternatives.
Anarchy won't work. It's Human Nature for there to be a higher power.
So... Fuck Anarchy.
now i know
June 21st, 2007, 01:34 AM
did you read all of what i wrote? just asking, you should. and anarchys good and all but i prefer the chaos magick/ Peter Carroll ideas. anarchy can work by the way, and as far as im Concerned human Nature doesint exist, i mean we are all born with some type of Nature i suppose, but we could Obliterate it in an instant if we knew how.we dont need to act human, in fact im in question of what acting human is, cause i belive no one to date is indeed acting human.
its not very clear, and understandable, but here
http://www.sacred-texts.com/eso/chaos/index.htm
you might have to do some looking around in this section, but with some time anyone can understand it simple enough.
AnarchistCooker
June 21st, 2007, 01:36 AM
I read till I saw that you supported Anarchy. I think Anarchy is a Sick twisted form.
now i know
June 21st, 2007, 01:46 AM
Hashanah, I support, and believe in everything and nothing at the same time. There is nothing in the world that is sick and twisted, or you could say that every single thing is sick and twisted.
Here, ill give you the part that you probably didn’t read. its just a small part of my belives
beliefs are not ends in themselves, but tools for creating desired effects. To fully realize this is to face a terrible freedom in which Nothing is True and Everything is Permitted, which is to say that everything is possible, there are no certainties, and the consequences can be ghastly. Laughter seems to be the only defense against the realization that one does not even have a real self.
Thus Chaoism proclaims the Death and Rebirth of the Gods. Our subconscious creativity and parapsychological powers are more than adequate to create or destroy any god or self or demon or other "spiritual" entity that we may choose to invest or disinvest belief in, at least for ourselves and sometimes others as well. The frequently awesome results attaining by creating gods by act of ritually behaving as though they exist should not lead into the abyss of attributing ultimate reality to anything. That is the transcendentalist mistake,, which leads to the narrowing of the spectrum of the self. The real awesomeness lies in the range of things we can discover ourselves capable of, even if we may temporarily have to believe the effects are due to something else, in order to be able to create them. The gods are dead. Long live the gods.
both reality and human condition have a game like quality. The game is open ended, and plays itself for amusement. Players can make up their own rules to some extent, and cheat by using parapsychology if desired.
We should all be people who have sold there soul for the chance of participating more fully in reality. Only when nothing is true, and the idea of a true self is abandoned, does everything become permitted. There is some accuracy in the Faust myth, but he failed to take it to its logical conclusion.
It is the meta-belief that belief is a tool for achieving effects. This effect is often far easier to observe in others than in oneself. It is usually quite easy to see how other people, and indeed entire cultures, are both enabled and disabled by the beliefs they hold. Beliefs tend to lead to activities which tend to reconfirm belief in a circle they call virtuous rather than vicious, even if the results are not amusing. The first stage of seeing through the game can be a shocking enlightenment that leads either to a weary cynicism or Buddhism. The second stage of actually applying the insight to oneself can destroy the illusion of the soul and create a true human. The realization that belief is a tool rather than an end in itself has immense consequences if fully accepted. Within the limits set by physical possibility, and these limits are wider and more malleable than most people believe, one can make real any beliefs one chooses, including contradictionary beliefs. The human is not striving for any particular limited identity goal, rather he wants the meta-identity of being able to be anything.
So welcome to the Kali Yuga of the Pandaemonaeon wherein nothing is true and everything is permissable. For in these post-absolutist days it is better to build upon the shifting sands than the rock which will confound you on the day it shatters. Philosophers have become no more than the keepers of useful sarcasms, for the secret is out that there is no secret of the universe. All is Chaos and evolution is going nowhere in particular. It is pure chance which rules the universe and thus, and only thus, is life good. We are born accidentally into a random world where only seeming causes lead to apparent effects, and very little is predetermined, thank Chaos. As everything is arbitrary and accidental then perhaps these words are too small and pejorative, rather we should perhaps say that life, the universe and everything is spontaneously creative and magical.
Relishing stochastic reality we can revel exclusively in magical definitions of existence. The roads of excess may yet lead to the place of wisdom, and many indeterminate things can happen on the way to thermodynamic equilibrium. It is vain to seek solid ground on which to stand. Solidity is an illusion, as is the foot which stands on it, and the self which thinks it owns either is the most transparent illusion of all.
The heavy vessels of faith are holed and sinking along with all lifeboats and ingenious rafts. So will you shop at the supermarket of sensation and let your consumer preferences define your true self? Or will you in a bold and lighthearted fashion, thieve from both for the fun of it? For belief is a tool for achieving whatever one chooses to consider important or pleasurable, and sensation has no other purpose than sensation. Thus help yourself to them without paying the price. Sacrifice Truth for Freedom at every opportunity. The greatest fun, freedom and achievement lies not being yourself. There is little merit in simply being whomsoever you were destined to be by accident of birth and circumstance. Hell is the condition of having no alternatives.
Reject then the obscenities of contrived uniformity, order and purpose. Turn and face the tidal wave of Chaos. Leap in and come out surfing its crest, sporting amidst the limitless weirdness and mystery in all things, for those who reject false certainties. Thank Chaos we shall never exhaust it. Create, destroy, enjoy, TO CHAOS!
BlackZodiac
June 21st, 2007, 08:05 PM
You didn't even read do you? THERE IS NO FUCKING GOVERNMENT IN COMMUNISM. The USSR was Socialism. Stalin the fucking retard made it the 'Communist' Party for Propaganda reasons. -_-
You have no clue to what you're talking about do you? I know this for a fact, you tell me and others to "Read a book" and how you "Read books" well it is obvious that these books you are "Reading" are either false or you can't read...
Ever heard of the Duma? ;) Russian government, oh yes during the Soviet era.
http://history-world.org/Russia%20history.htm
http://www.geographia.com/russia/rushis06.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duma
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