Godlost

[aleister]

its kinda funny well not really look at the facts

1. in 1993 the U.S. supplied al qaeda with weapons and cia agents to fight agaianst russia(now an ally on terrorism)

2. well known fact that saddam hussein was given the key to detroit(the real motor city madman)

3. north korea has nuclear warheads aimed at san francisco and have publicly stated they would use them yet we went to iraq instead(a country who didnt have any nuclear warheads)

4. house bill 666 gives police the right to search homes without a search warrant just a suspicion

5.hilary fucking clinton may very well be the next president(fuck that)

6. hitler tried to take over the world and dabbled heavily at genocide to cause wwII the only reason we went to war was because of pearl harbor.

7.so we didnt go after hitler for his shit but we went after north veitnam for attacking south veitnam. isnt that what the union did to the confederacy.

The list goes on and it seems like the u.s. likes to play god well people looks like GOD LOST time for a revolution.

[master of puppets]

Those are the worst things that you know the U.S. government has done?!?!?!? You have no idea!

[Acrylic76]

Enlighten us master, enlighten us.

[faggypunk]

haha totaly off topic, but google search the word failure
the first result should be a biography of bush

anyway, im not making a direct assumption, but just think about this...
if the gov't has the power to keep secrets from us, what dont we know yet?

[J2E]

...6. hitler tried to take over the world and dabbled heavily at genocide to cause wwII the only reason we went to war was because of pearl harbor.

7.so we didnt go after hitler for his shit but we went after north veitnam for attacking south veitnam. isnt that what the union did to the confederacy...

Have you ever read a text book? or are you just pulling shit out of your ass. The U.S. entered WWII for more reasons than pearl harbor. The U.S. was at a state of undelcared war as of march 1941. Pearl harbor occured December of 1941.

" In March 1941 the U.S. Congress passed the Lend-Lease Act and appropriated an initial $7 billion to lend or lease weapons and other aid to any countries the president might designate. By this means the U.S. hoped to ensure victory over the Axis without involving its own troops. By late summer of 1941, however, the U.S. was in a state of undeclared war with Germany. In July, U.S. Marines were stationed in Iceland, which had been occupied by the British in May 1940, and thereafter the U.S. Navy took over the task of escorting convoys in the waters west of Iceland. In September President Franklin D. Roosevelt authorized ships on convoy duty to attack Axis war vessels."

Microsoft ® Encarta ® 2006. © 1993-2005 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

It is true that pearl harbor might have pushed the us entirely into WWII, but we were involved in combat way before that occurred.


And regarding some of the events of the holocaust. The allied and even most of the axis powers were not completely aware of all Hilter was up to. A lot of concentration camps were not discovered until the war was almost over.

[J2E]

one other thing...Germany declared war on the U.S. two days after we declared war on Japan.

[aleister]

irrelevant if you think for one second that germany or any other reason for us entering wwII is plausible your niave you think you know politics you know only what they tell you we may have been at what some would call war but were focusing most of our energy on a way to avoid war and as for the world not knowing of concentration camps until the near end of the war is bullshit that may be true for the general public but trust me every government with any type of intell new from the beginning. and oh yea if all this isnt enough what did we do to japanese people following pearl harbor put them in camps we just didnt kill them and then called it public safety and you only pointed out one of my reasons for a wanting of the revolt against our government i know a girl who had a boyfreind who went in the army as an intelligence analyst he went to hawaii for breifing and three weeks later called her from an institution. area 51 need i say anymore our government is full of agendas and lies and secrets for god sakes our president is part of a secret society the freemasons. be realistic and think outside the realm of what you think you know and for the love of joe pesci open your eyes its time for a goddamn revolution

[whatsopen]

aleister, half of that.. your just taking partial facts and twisting them, i'm not for our government but atleast get the facts right
1. the confederates fired first
2. i'm glad you can see the governmental folly but if they told us everything, people would be freaking out and jumping to conclusions, as much as if you tell your class that your going to have a text next period, they all freak out.. same concept, smaller scale
we atom bombed the shit out of japan because we needed to show our great power to the communism that was on the really high rise AND so we didnt lose so many troops, the army generals told truman how many hundreds of thousands of troops we'd lose if we simply invaded them on their turf, this was a more cost effective way.. we already had the atom bomb built thanks to the Manhattan project anyway
and just one more thing.. what do you have against clinton and why?

[whatsopen]

sorry, one more question popped into my head.. why title this godlost, any comment on religion would more appropriately be placed under that christian religious freaks topic

[aleister]

well the reason for godlost is as it says in the thread weve spent 231 years raising ourselves up to godhead and fancy our government a god well looks like god lost at least in my eyes and i have a problem with clinton because 9/11 wouldnt have happened if he couldve got his balls outta monicas mouth and used them we had osama new his wereabouts in saudi arabia but to please the democratic party he made saudi arabia expell him from the country were he went to afghanistan a country who is in a state of anarchy and is lawless with no way to track him. not that bush is any better and wether or not the confederacy or union attacked first is pointless really because the same thing happened here and noone else got involved the facts are there and the key points are hit and its just the tip of the iceberg that was only seven fuckups we need to revolt bush is taking a capitalistic government and trying to turn it in to a fascist one and big picture bushit has probably got the idea of fusing political and military strength into the new world order you dont think were gonna have a say in what the new iraqi government does communist capitalist democratic fascist bullshit its time for a revolution.

[whatsopen]

i was talking about hilary clinton
but what kind of revolution.. throw bush off his throne then what..

we have to just let him end his term and then put a good dem into office: obama or hilary then we can live a little happier.. and when/if someone does bomb us.. there will be a nice little hole where that country used to be, the reason we dont do that for the countries that have bombed us.. especially 9/11 is because of our dependency on oil

we know where bin laden is, the pakistani mountains but we cant get to him because he is feeding the poor in that country so they dont want us cutting of their food supply

[J2E]

irrelevant if you think for one second that germany or any other reason for us entering wwII is plausible your niave you think you know politics you know only what they tell you we may have been at what some would call war but were focusing most of our energy on a way to avoid war and as for the world not knowing of concentration camps until the near end of the war is bullshit that may be true for the general public but trust me every government with any type of intell new from the beginning. and oh yea if all this isnt enough what did we do to japanese people following pearl harbor put them in camps we just didnt kill them and then called it public safety and you only pointed out one of my reasons for a wanting of the revolt against our government i know a girl who had a boyfreind who went in the army as an intelligence analyst he went to hawaii for breifing and three weeks later called her from an institution. area 51 need i say anymore our government is full of agendas and lies and secrets for god sakes our president is part of a secret society the freemasons. be realistic and think outside the realm of what you think you know and for the love of joe pesci open your eyes its time for a goddamn revolution

You may be smarter than most on this site (according to others) but you do not have facts to support what you say. At least I gave know facts to support what I said. Not just conspiracy theories. Like I said read a book, movies are not reliable sources. I'm not arguing that this country has problems but your focus is wrong. You can't change the past. "Be realistic." Go forward and make positive changes that will benefit our children.

[faggypunk]

junior member fight!!!


and aleister, you say it like anarchy is a bad thing, yet you said time for a revolution... i think its time you stop getting facts that you dont understand

[aleister]

if you cant seperate anarchy from revolution your an idiot yes acountry experiances anarchy during a revolution but its not the goal of the revolution find one person whos been through a countries state of anarchy and enjoyed other than osama bin laden and as for hilary (give me a fucking break) do you honestly think never mind it speaks for itself. name a policy of hers that isnt filled with holes. little humor we would have a cocksucker for a president i mean she is democrat. and obama the guy is obviously a pisces you know the fish wishy-washy and our children my gf is pregnant and all i hear is the children to qoute george carlin "fuck the children" and take this for what its worth if we dont change things for the here and now we wont have to worry bout the children there wont be any and were are the facts on the wereabouts of bin laden. and as for what next as soon as i get the time i will post my in depth system of government that works but heres a bit of info you pay sales tax on everything you buy and then again on april 14 well in my system you pay sales tax like always but instead of taxing people at the end of the year you tax companies and some not all but some businesses are bought and run by the government to make up for the loss of tax dollars so the government actually provides services for its money instead of protection(in our system similar to racketeering protection from the ones providing it) i will soon write the formula for the revolution.

[J2E]

That is one long ass piece of rambling bullshit.

[aleister]

the weak let things happen to them while the strong make things happen to them you call it ass ramblingwich shows no fault in my system i did leave out one thingthe goverment can only own businesses eqaul to 10% of the market
that way it differs from communism and sales tax becomes 10% (7% now where i live) so point out a flaw.

[B.Cadizzle]

you all think hes full of bull shit and say read a book but you read the history books that are at school and think you know what happened well your just reading what the government puts in them do you really think that they will put what really happens hell no just what they want to and no more
the US is not a shity country just a corrupt one we will never know what happens just what we are told and the pres. is not to blame hes just a figure head he does not know or control what the country really know

[aleister]

well thats part of it but to say the countries not shitty is untrue in my opinion the country would be better if it followed my system. read the revolution.

[B.Cadizzle]

i did and i aggre but i meen its not like its a shit hole like the middle east

[aleister]

well its not to that degree of shit but if you claim to be the land of the free atleast deliver our government sickens me with the things that go on day by day. id rather be in holland or norway but were capitalist so its hard unless your lucky and i live in georgia so the economy is fucked here while the ford plant shuts down and gm as well jobs are sent overseas to help there problems fuck that. my system would work 10 times more efficiently

[B.Cadizzle]

yes it would but i live in MI and we have the worst economy in the US

[aleister]

sorry to hear that but like i said in another thread i cant worry about how shitty the middle east is im in america and while many wanna count their blessings (the weak) i want to change the faults.

[faggypunk]

kid if you really want to spark a revolution you would be writing to congress, not rambling on this site

explaining to us your own personal system gets you nowhere

[aleister]

did you even inquire if i plan to run for office im going for city council next year and at 19 it wouldnt be impossible i know a guy that did it at 18. legislature wont change a thing anyway the system is old and of stones they wont tear it down but to start a revolution ive the need to find an organization to support my platform and this is the politics section of a site with ideas similar to mine and if i can find real resources on what orginazations are out there who would support this platform i might find one here or on any other site the internet has to offer i mean me and massigyman talked about it for a while and i know mass personally we went to the same college.

[faggypunk]

alright then, heres your other sollution:
get over it

i want a revolution just as much as you, but the gov't isnt just about to hand over america to you with a smile

[whatsopen]

america is afraid of change and anything they dont know about.. except our food, hell knows whats in there but we eat it

[aleister]

if enough people band together there will be change.

[BlackZodiac]

1. in 1993 the U.S. supplied al qaeda with weapons and cia agents to fight agaianst russia(now an ally on terrorism)


3. north korea has nuclear warheads aimed at san francisco and have publicly stated they would use them yet we went to iraq instead(a country who didnt have any nuclear warheads).

1. U.S is supplying Al-Qaeda terrorists in Kosovo (In 2001).

2. North Korea did not say they would nuke America, nor were they "Aimed" at the United States because they all were inactive, inaccurate and best of all wouldn't make it half-way across the Pacific ocean. Also why would the States want to go up against 6,000,000 soldiers and United states has 2 million, well you got the technology, but so dose N.Korea, such as the T-90 (A 5th Generation tank) the Abram is a 4th generation, Korea actually has a Airforce and air defence programs. The war in Korea would claim much more as compared in Iraq.

If you possibly think that America can afford another war, or even think that if United States would smash N.Korea without massive death toll numbers think again.
http://www.rense.com/general37/nkorr.htm

[whatsopen]

we cannot afford another war at all.. bush would get his ass impeached SO fast his head would pop off
if another world war started right now.. we'd likely have to use our nukes and atom bombs, then we'd have a hella lot of panic

[BlackZodiac]

we cannot afford another war at all.. bush would get his ass impeached SO fast his head would pop off
if another world war started right now.. we'd likely have to use our nukes and atom bombs, then we'd have a hella lot of panic

Yes but you can't declare war on a country then just nuke it.

[aleister]

yes the warheads may have been inactive but were pointed to the san fran harbor and kim korea said if it came to it he would use them however its relatively pointless now but it does show the logic the u.s. gov. uses.

[BlackZodiac]

yes the warheads may have been inactive but were pointed to the san fran harbor and kim korea said if it came to it he would use them however its relatively pointless now but it does show the logic the u.s. gov. uses.

IF!!!
-It could even get halfway across the Atlantic ocean.
-The Unites States decided to invade North Korea.

The missles were not pointed to San francisco!!! If they were the United States would have North Korea surrounded with aircraft-carriers and have Anti-missle systems on stand-by just for precaution, (which there wasn't). The missles were not pointed towards anywhere, they wernt even in silos waiting for launch, so how the fuck can they be pointed to San francisco harbour. That is what they said on the news, that they didn't have the capability to hit San francisco, but there best bet would to upgrade and try to hit San francisco if war broke out.

[aleister]

thats the pacific ocean and yea all of what i said was true but soon after there were some form of talks kim korea fucker is just a little guy who likes to fuck with people but anyway if war broke out with north korea it would be a very short period of time before a missile did successfully hit american soil.
probably before we hit them (remember hiroshima) our government doesnt want that again killing people not involved in combat is bad for business the problem is kim jong il doesnt give a shit.

[hella cool]

That is what they said on the news.

well of course that what they said on the news WHY!!! fear, ahhh fear almost as profitable as the war machine


dont belive everything they tell u

[BlackZodiac]

well of course that what they said on the news WHY!!! fear, ahhh fear almost as profitable as the war machine


dont belive everything they tell u

"dont belive everything they tell u"
-That is what I was referring to if you had read my post properly...

[hella cool]

well ya i realize that it was directed at aleister