View Full Version : War in Iraq
schecter
March 23rd, 2007, 07:39 PM
So who is for/against the war in Iraq and why?
BlackZodiac
March 23rd, 2007, 08:37 PM
I think they should stay, kill all or most of the insurgents, and re-inforce the governments power until they can defend the country from militants.
schecter
March 23rd, 2007, 08:43 PM
its impossible to kill all of the insurgants..we dont know who they are and they are also raising the youth to hate us..I think we should stay in for a little bit longer and just give support as much as possible but just start to leave..idk how much hope there is there.
superflysuperwhite
March 23rd, 2007, 08:49 PM
its not even the war in Iraq any more we're people from other countries not iraqis any more.
i wish we could get out but if we do then we have no control over who will take over the govnt which means any one with power could and in that area power belongs to the terrorists
BlackZodiac
March 23rd, 2007, 08:55 PM
its impossible to kill all of the insurgants..we dont know who they are and they are also raising the youth to hate us..I think we should stay in for a little bit longer and just give support as much as possible but just start to leave..idk how much hope there is there.
You are very right, but I said most or all. But by leaving now after destroying it would only make it worse.
its not even the war in Iraq any more we're people from other countries not iraqis any more.
i wish we could get out but if we do then we have no control over who will take over the govnt which means any one with power could and in that area power belongs to the terrorists
There are still Iraqui insurgents fighting, alot. But there are rebels comming from Chechnya,Bosnia,Iran and possibly Saudi Arabia and Syria.
Acrylic76
March 23rd, 2007, 09:43 PM
We can't stay there until all the insurgents are dead, truth is, we're creating more insurgents. There was a report saying that the US occupation was angering people of that country so much that civilians and people who remained neutral where taking arms and joining the terrorists.
beavismagnum
March 23rd, 2007, 11:17 PM
i think we should just bomb that fuckin place
it probably sucks anyway
superflysuperwhite
March 23rd, 2007, 11:20 PM
yeah lets bomb it, cus that wont make people hate us even more
Acrylic76
March 23rd, 2007, 11:41 PM
Keep stupid comments like let's just bomb all of them out of here. If that's your way of thinking, you're not mature enough to post in here.
The Anarchist
March 24th, 2007, 01:17 AM
We will never change these people and we will never get them to like us. Islam is not a religion of piece, just read the Koran. It teach them to kill anyone who does not believe in Islam. So the only way to solve the Middle East problem is give Israel the support they need and erase Iran off the map, then let them go after Syria. Once these 1st century throwbacks see that their crap will not be tolerated by decent humans they will see the light. Fuck the UN nations, they hate us anyway. And the only way to show these America haters that we are the greatest country in the world is to unleash the greatest military on Earth.
Acrylic76
March 24th, 2007, 01:32 AM
That will just make them see fascist power, it won't convince them America is the greatest country. Israel are just as insane and deluded, we shouldn't help them either.
B.Cadizzle
March 24th, 2007, 01:45 AM
all this war is is a quest for power by bush and even if we did do everything right (witch we didnt) some 1 will still hate us be it fear, lust, history or whatever
"let them hate us as long as they fear us" (not sure his name but a roman ruler said this)
gudgeonpin
March 24th, 2007, 04:39 AM
i served in iraq in 2003 with the brittish army when it all started and saw my share of fighting and i dont think we will ever bring rest to the country because of all the different religions in the area. as soon as one party gains power all the other partys try to cause unrest due to their religion not being in power, its a never ending circle. the coalition needs to stay while the water electricity ect is sorted then leave. we have enough probs with afganistan. somewhere else i will be going very soon!!
that bollox that you wrote (the anarchist) you obviously dont know much about religion. the bible also says that if you are not a christian or live a good life you will be judged. the same as the kor'ran and all the other religous texts. that is half the problem with iraq. narrow minded people mouthin off without enough evidence, and trying to solve iraq with "the greatest military on earth" will not work just look at veitnam. some diplomacy is needed aswell as a browning .50
superflysuperwhite
March 24th, 2007, 09:45 AM
Anarchist you ignorant fuck.
Islam is actually a religion of peace yes there is some thing that says spread Islam by the sword, but when christianity (the most violent religion to date) was killing people for not converting. Muslims were only taxing people who would not convert. the violent Muslims that are shown on fox which is the probably where you get all your facts are religious fanatics who can be compared to the christian evangelist groups
now for you who want to know why christianity is the most violent religion here's a few reasons.
the crusades, 200 years of war started by the pope
do you know why Friday the 13th is considered unlucky, well its cus the pope ordered the capture, torture, and execution, of the knights Templar.
what about the Spanish inquisition, how many innocent people do you think were killed during that christian act
what about when the Spanish came to America and saw that there was human sacrifice and practically killed of an entire people cus they refused to convert
Salem witch trials i live next to Salem so iv he herd all about how so called Christians said there neighbors were witches and had them hung, stoned, and burned
hey what about Jone of arc she was killed by christians cus she claimed she could talk to god
and what about the KKK white Anglo Protestant's claim to be a christian group, look at all the good theve done for the world
these are only a few things, compared to this Muslims are Mormons, wrong even the Mormons have a nice violent past themselves. so next time you want to say stuff like you did take a look in the mirror
fir the record i hate religion but i hate ignorant fucks even more
The Anarchist
March 24th, 2007, 09:52 AM
Gudgeonpin, just by reading your last post I can tell the following about you:
1. You are obviously not religious
2. a liberal
3. and worst of all ignorant
It's people like you that have ruined Europe and America. Your comment about Christianity is the most common ignorant statement I have seen. Just to set you strait... no where in the Bible there's teachings of killing non-believers. Islam is the only religion that teaches that. Please do your home work before you blab your mouth off, you moron!
Superfly, you're another ignorant fool!
superflysuperwhite
March 24th, 2007, 09:56 AM
trust me anarchist there dosnt need to be any thing written for people to do things just people with power
The Anarchist
March 24th, 2007, 09:57 AM
You need to stop associating people's actions with the actual teachings of different religions. Humans are humans, I am simply making a point that Islam is the only religion that teaches murder in the name of Allah. It is written in more than 4 places in the Koran. It plainly states to kill non believers.
superflysuperwhite
March 24th, 2007, 10:10 AM
yes but in the old Hebrew testament god says to kill men who dress up in women's clothing or people who sleep with animals. also he told the jews to eradicate all the people in the promised land pretty much. read the part when they are being told what to do in Jericho it tells them to kill every one or make them your slaves.
and of course the christian testament wont say any thing negative because any writings like that were kept out of the bible. they only wanted to put things that made Christianity look better. take revelations for example the person who wrote it was predicting what would happen 60 years from when he wrote it and it was put in the bible about 100 years after. it was originally not even supposed to be in the bible but they decided to put it in to scare people in that if there not christian they will be damned.
and when they say kill the non believers they mean the same people who Christians and jews consider non believers because Islam believes in the same god as those two. they just believe in different ways of worshiping it.
The Anarchist
March 24th, 2007, 10:14 AM
This thread is for all of you ignorant fools who say that Islam is a religion of peace. The Koran plainly states that cruel punishment of non believers will be the will of Allah. Take your Koran out and read 8,12; 9,5; 9,29; 9,73; 47,4; etc. You morons! It's because of people like you Islam has become such a problems.
Superfly, you're not going to win this one! Lets forget all the dark ages when people believed that Earth was flat. Let look at today. Give me one example of murder in Gods name other than Islam. Just one! And then ask yourself this question... if I have one choice where to live, would it be any country in the Middle East or USA?
I feel sorry for you Superfly. You say you hate ignorant people yet you are one.
superflysuperwhite
March 24th, 2007, 10:32 AM
alright so it says hunt down and slay the non believers.
but take into the fact that the Koran was written during time of conquest and people are going to write about things that make sense to them like war and conquest. if it was written in a different time it could be completely different i wont argue that it dosnt say not to kill in the name of god. but i will that wast Christianity and Judaism's idea too even though they did not write it. you said stop mistaking people actions with there teachings (or something like that) but remember that all religion comes from humans so the people who write it will put what they want into it, but it is the people who choose to follow the teachings choice to take what is written literally or not.
alright to you second out of three posts. like i said these are religious fanatics who are taking what is written literally. they are like the christian evangelist who believe that unless you PRAISE JESUS! and let them REALES YOU FROM YOUR SINS! you will make it into heaven. these are the people who think that moses split the sea and all that other crazy stuff in the bible. if they put kill the non believers in the bible these would be the first to do it.
and also how many people do you think are over there for religious reasons, im sure more than you think. in fact ill ask my father how many people he thinks are going over for god (hes a Sergent 1st class almost a master Sergent)
and like i said take into account when this was written, before the dark ages
by the way thank you for this i haven't had a good debate in a while
schecter
March 24th, 2007, 12:59 PM
I dont think this area of the world will ever have a non-violent life. It never has and i dont think it ever will. Ever since around 2000 BC all there was was conquering, and it still is like that.
mymindisablank
March 24th, 2007, 03:54 PM
I think they should stay, kill all or most of the insurgents, and re-inforce the governments power until they can defend the country from militants.
all they really need is reinforcement to make sure they don't go doing shit like blowing towers up (9/11)...
sleepwalker suicide
March 24th, 2007, 07:38 PM
I think America should finish what they started. Terrorism is now more of a threat than it ever was, if they leave now it would only go to show how rediculous it was going over there in the first place. Now people are just really pissed and eventually there will be another terrorist attack. America needs to do everything possible to show they will not back down. And as rediculous as it may seem or even immature, maybe that does mean killing them all. Mark my words, this will eventually be known as one of the leading causes of World War 3.
AbstractHorizon
March 25th, 2007, 01:13 AM
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,260861,00.html
Uh ohh...If that doesn't look like a large-scale conflict in the making, this might scare you a little bit more.
http://www.brillig.com/debt_clock/
1.9 bil of new deficit eveyday? Ouch, we might be in trouble...
A new confrontation over seas might cause a world of shit.
Yeah, Bush is going to eat this one up...
B.Cadizzle
March 25th, 2007, 01:41 AM
might OK first off were already in a world of shit and 2nd it WILL make it worse
Farewell Fix
March 25th, 2007, 02:34 AM
Shouldn't of gone in in the first place.
gudgeonpin
March 25th, 2007, 07:17 AM
anarchist. your right i am not religious but that does not mean i dont know religion. im a scottish protestant for fuck sake so religion is life here.
but heres a few extracts for you to read-
samuel 15:2,3 the lord orders saul to kill all amalekite men.
exodus 15:3 the lord is a man of war.
mark 7:9 jesus critisises jews for not killing disobediant children.
and best of all.....
luke 19:22-27 jesus orders anyone killed who refuses to be rulled by him.
so all in all christianity is not so sraight laced. but that is not what this is about. this is to do with being in iraq and a massive show of force wont work because we are not fighting an army. ask anyone who has been which should be easy because of the amount of troops you boys have out there that fighting a terrorist faction is alot different. Look at the devastation caused after 9-11. we could never create that on them because they dont care if they die all they want is to bring the west to its knees. and so far we are not doing very well. how long has america been trying to secure baghdad? 4 years?? not to hot. its all because we have to choose our targets carfully. they dont. so please dont get on your fuckin narrowminded soap box unless u know the score.
The Anarchist
March 25th, 2007, 01:54 PM
What the fuck are you smoking??? What Bible did you get this shit from??? It certainly did not come from the King James version. You must have the Allah version. Again, it's people like you that twist shit around to conform into their own beliefs. Bro, the only enemy we have on this planet are Islamic fools and liberals who appease them.
The reason America has not been able to fix Iraq is because we have a pussy for a president. If this was Reagan the war would have been over in one week.
gudgeonpin
March 25th, 2007, 02:10 PM
america will never fix iraq. but igree that bush is a pussy. to be honest would reagen have gone after all there wasnt any proof of wmd's in iraq so the whole thing is unjustified
AbstractHorizon
March 25th, 2007, 02:23 PM
To gudgeonpin:
CELTIC! CELTIC! CELITC!
Scottish Premier Champs in the making (again!) WOOOOOO
PS- "Religion is a crutch for those, who know not, their destiny"
Science rules, Jesus drools
Oh, and Iraq will never be fixed.
Reagen would've made it work, yes.
We might as well just take the oil we've paid for with blood, leave that place as the shit-hole, ruined, wasteland that it is, and phase our troops out. Who the fuck cares, anyways?
I think all human-right's advocates can pick up guns and go fight (and hopefully die :D ) if they think we shouldn't leave,
Acrylic76
March 25th, 2007, 10:18 PM
This is about the war in Iraq people, stay on topic.
jesus the dinosaur hunter
March 26th, 2007, 10:24 AM
pull out and now the british are doing the right thing why cant u fucking americans see that ur not going to win un less u nuke the gotdamn sand monkey out of the holes they live in thyis war was never about iraq they went in there on false pretenses (no wmds) it was a war in afganistan where they should be leave iraq put alll the forces into afganistan and go from there
B.Cadizzle
March 26th, 2007, 12:10 PM
what if we used the peace maker you know the 1 that has the power of 10 nukes?
jesus the dinosaur hunter
March 26th, 2007, 12:15 PM
that would be enjoyable but i think just a normal nuke will take care of it
B.Cadizzle
March 26th, 2007, 12:20 PM
yes but still...
AbstractHorizon
March 26th, 2007, 01:01 PM
You too are going to kill us all. Although I'm both mentally unstable in terms violence, and a severe proponent of the military and the benefits of war, you both scare me. It is obvious that you have no idea how that would affect the world (end it).
But I don't blame you...it is obvious that neither of you have studied in any sort of higher education institutions, and therefore don't have exposure to things like International Relations, or nuclear proliferation theories.
Just think to yourself..."Would I wanna live in a shack that I built myself out of scrap sheet metal, enduring horrible radiation poisoning, having little or no food, and having NO electronics (including the PC your using right now)...all after watching all my friends and family die in a single blast?"
Yes, yes my friends...flexing our nuclear muscles is not a feasible solution to our problems...It is merely a trigger for the ultimate problem, which happens to be death.
B.Cadizzle
March 26th, 2007, 01:06 PM
no i have an understanding of all that but i dont care i just be on my pot farm on mars or my breweries on saturn
jesus the dinosaur hunter
March 26th, 2007, 01:16 PM
well im a canadaian so i wont have to worry about that ill just move further north and eventually the worlds fucked anyway so meh it wont happen in my life time and i wont have any kids so i ciould care less
B.Cadizzle
March 26th, 2007, 01:18 PM
you could come to my porn set on uranus
ok...ok that was to easy
jesus the dinosaur hunter
March 26th, 2007, 01:20 PM
im likeing the pot farm
bioagentgod_8951
March 26th, 2007, 01:26 PM
We need a president that isnt afraid of war. Yes we are currently in a war under false pretences, but its not the same. We need a president like Reagen. Carter let hundreds of Americans over seas under capture for 412 days. When Reagen took Presidency he gave them 10 days to send them back or he told them they are fucked. They sure as hell sent our people back.
bioagentgod_8951
March 26th, 2007, 01:26 PM
you could come to my porn set on uranus
ok...ok that was to easy
You mom is too easy.... lol sry couldnt help myself.
jesus the dinosaur hunter
March 26th, 2007, 01:35 PM
ur mom is like water down peanut butter
bioagentgod_8951
March 26th, 2007, 01:37 PM
Watered down peanut butter perhaps?
You snowballin bitch lol im just messin man dont get pissed at me.
jesus the dinosaur hunter
March 26th, 2007, 02:41 PM
hey its all jokes around hizzle
B.Cadizzle
March 26th, 2007, 02:54 PM
fer sizzle
Revelations 1:1
March 26th, 2007, 03:40 PM
How many Americans actually know why you are at war? you all get told terrorists right?
jesus the dinosaur hunter
March 26th, 2007, 03:42 PM
we all know its the oil and the money its all for money
B.Cadizzle
March 26th, 2007, 03:55 PM
what mony were losing cash over this its more like this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1C74sjMTjc
jesus the dinosaur hunter
March 26th, 2007, 04:01 PM
the country is losing money bush and the oil company ceo's arent
Revelations 1:1
March 26th, 2007, 04:02 PM
Your losing cash, soldiers, reputation why are you still fighting??
jesus the dinosaur hunter
March 26th, 2007, 04:11 PM
im canadian dont ask me
B.Cadizzle
March 26th, 2007, 04:18 PM
how the fuck should i know i dont have a say so in it ask the dumb ass in office
Revelations 1:1
March 26th, 2007, 04:23 PM
why did you put that dumb ass in office in the first place?
B.Cadizzle
March 26th, 2007, 04:26 PM
i didnt vote for him i voted libral
Acrylic76
March 26th, 2007, 06:13 PM
jesus the dinosaur hunter and B. Cadizzle, keep stupid bullshit out of this thread, last warning.
B.Cadizzle
March 26th, 2007, 06:40 PM
i never got the first warning
and what happened to the 3 strikes thing
naah im just jokeing but ok we'll go to the Bull Shit ok
Palm3R
March 29th, 2007, 09:41 PM
No, it's not even considered a war. The actual war ended like 2weeks after it started. The war in Iraq has been over for a while now.
lord foul the despiser
March 30th, 2007, 11:48 AM
well there de-building the country so its the same thing
rebelmarine08
March 30th, 2007, 09:27 PM
[QUOTE=The Anarchist;75726]What the fuck are you smoking??? What Bible did you get this shit from??? It certainly did not come from the King James version. You must have the Allah version. Again, it's people like you that twist shit around to conform into their own beliefs. Bro, the only enemy we have on this planet are Islamic fools and liberals who appease them.
QUOTE]
That is one of the most amazing and motivating quotes I have ever read in my entire life.
The reason we're not winning is Because Ole Billy Boy took half of our military and downsized it, and the fucking Democratic(socialist) congressmen all sympathize for these dirty rat bastards. They shove this bullshit down America's throat about this being a war for oil, and we have no right to be there. And the worst part is our youth buys into their bullshit because nobody can make their own God damn decisions or opinions anymore without clearing it through their local congressman. You're all so fucking worried about who you're going to piss off with that comment and you let everyone bullshit you. If you want some real answers, talk to someone who's been to Iraq. Ask someone's who lost someone in Iraq if we should pull out. I won't listen to you fucking pigs talk about how much bullshit is going on and believe every sentence CNN throws your way.
AbstractHorizon
March 31st, 2007, 12:01 AM
Rebel Marine...I LOVE YOU.
But, as sad as it is for me to admit...you are just as brainwashed as our commey-loving democrat adversaries.
Keep up the good fight, brother. I will soon join you, and we will both meet our true enemy in Iran.
PS- Fuck HILLARY...and that nigger who thinks hes white that is also trying to run for El Presidente
Tigerlilyhb89
March 31st, 2007, 12:45 PM
We all love rebelmarine. Hey, rebel, your in Texas, you can visit The Anarchist...
AbstractHorizon
April 1st, 2007, 01:56 PM
Why so many ill-fated feelings towards The Anarchist, Tiger?
lord foul the despiser
April 2nd, 2007, 10:05 AM
cuzz the anarchist is a dick lick piece of shit thats why
AbstractHorizon
April 2nd, 2007, 11:57 AM
I'm often amused with the bandwagon approach to hating people on this site. Great minds think for themselves, people.
lord foul the despiser
April 2nd, 2007, 12:09 PM
ya but he is a dick lick
AbstractHorizon
April 4th, 2007, 10:44 PM
I don't think so bad about him...I mean, he was the genius behind this website...the website you spend so much time posting useless crap to other people on. Therefore, he created enterainment for you. Maybe your simple mind doesn't see past the tip of your tounge that just so happens to spit so much insult to someone you've never meant.
Tigerlilyhb89
April 4th, 2007, 10:48 PM
Why do I dislike The Anarchist?
Well, he has this site that he cares nothing for. Yet he doesnt give power to anyone. He lets it go to shit before giving anyone else anything to do with it.
He's easily persuaded by pms, because he doesnt read the forums. He has no idea that everyone hates merf, but merf pms him and she gets mod.
Getting him to do something right is like pulling teeth. You tell him whats up and he says yeah Ill do that, and then does something shitty.
AbstractHorizon
April 4th, 2007, 11:02 PM
Actually, not to displace your opinion or anything, but I've PM'ed him before with no response...I think you all have false allocations about him. Who really knows what the fuck he is doing sometimes. Maybe he likes merf, maybe he IS merf.
The internet is a very vast, and decieving creation.
War in Iraq...end it, and take care of who is the new threat...IRAN.
Tigerlilyhb89
April 4th, 2007, 11:22 PM
Maybe merf is sucking his dick. I would believe it.
lord foul the despiser
April 5th, 2007, 10:06 AM
I don't think so bad about him...I mean, he was the genius behind this website...the website you spend so much time posting useless crap to other people on. Therefore, he created enterainment for you. Maybe your simple mind doesn't see past the tip of your tounge that just so happens to spit so much insult to someone you've never meant.
unless u were joking a child could have created a better site then this i wouldent call it entertainment it just kills time ive never meet u and i dont really like u
AbstractHorizon
April 5th, 2007, 04:44 PM
Unless YOU were joking, only a child would care if someone else liked them based on what they say on the internet. Don't bother me with your petty games.
And honestly, since you are so overconfident, make a website like this and show it to me.
Only THEN will you gain respect for you words, you twit.
Chode_Warrior
April 6th, 2007, 06:37 PM
i hope all the liberal faggots who want to get out of iraq get fucking blown up by an IED.
lord foul the despiser
April 12th, 2007, 10:30 AM
i dont want ur respect fuck you and ur respect
AbstractHorizon
April 12th, 2007, 01:38 PM
Tourette's anyone?
That, or are you upset that you started to grow hair in your pubic region, and you don't like it?
B.Cadizzle
April 15th, 2007, 04:28 AM
WOW i have no clue what this has to do w/ the war but i gotta get in on this ummmmmm.............. oh i know
your ugly so ha
AbstractHorizon
April 16th, 2007, 12:41 AM
No, YOU are ugly.
And don't randomly PM me with meaningless rantings anymore...that was creepy.
Especially at 4:00 in the morning on a weekend morning when you should be out getting smashed.
B.Cadizzle
April 17th, 2007, 10:03 AM
NO you are ugly
and what?
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