View Full Version : Why we all get salvation? (religious question)
irregula
July 23rd, 2009, 09:50 PM
I've been thinking for a while now, and I think i understand why Jesus says that everyone will get salvation.
Maybe it is because our minds think what we are taught. Maybe we aren't really bad people, maybe its just whatever you are taught by your parents and people you look up to when you are younger, sticks with you as you get older. No one is naturally a destructive and bad person, it all comes down to what you learned during early parts of your life. This also means that people who dont believe in God will also not go to hell.
And ive been thinking, that because I understand this (if its true), is it possible to go to hell if I do evil things?
(And obviously if you dont believe in this stuff, then your gonna think im crazy.)
Blackmetal666
July 23rd, 2009, 11:34 PM
though i dont believe in christianity, i do understand what you are asking...
For the first part of our lives, yes, what we learn from our parents, family, friends, elders, etc does have a major influence on how we think and act, but as people reach the stage of being an "adult" we have 2 options to choose from; either take what we have learned so far and live around the influences and ideas that have been set in our lives so far, or take your life into your own hands and live the way you think you should. Ultimately you decide how you live and act, no one else does (unless of course your physically/mentally unable to control your life).... now the question of wether humans are naturally born good or evil cannot be answered in my opinion, because "right" and "wrong" "good" and "evil" are not real things, they're points of views. Whats "right" in ones mind could be considered "wrong" in anothers mind. Whats considered "good in one country could very well be considered "evil" in another. Good and Evil are only defined in society and religion, in reality they are undefineable.
To answer the question... in the christian religion, no matter what your parents taught you as a child, if you knowingly do something thats considered evil according to christianity, (unless you pray for forgiveness) then yes, you will go to hell
Xon
July 24th, 2009, 08:23 AM
You misunderstand the Bible. It doesn't say everyone will be saved. Only some are saved by the Grace of God.
Oh, we are all depraved, every human. So, that rules out your theory that humans are good by nature.
exial
July 28th, 2009, 05:44 PM
I believe that everyone does evil in their life. But if you are of evil spirit, then you will not gain entrance. But if you are of a splintered spirit, then you go back and try to fix your splintered soul.
Xander_Hunt
October 12th, 2009, 06:38 PM
I think salvation, god, jesus and religion in genral is all a load of shit and so does every one else they just need to stop faking it and saying we do, because for god to see evary thing you do he needs eyes or something to see with or to think up a list of ten things he does not want you to do he needs a brain or something to think with. ok even if it was some how real if he were to send you to heven or hell it would not matter because your "spirit leaves your body and goes to Heaven or Hell" if that's the case it's also leaving your eyes, ears, mouth, nose, brain and nerve endings so if you spirit does go to heven or hell you won't be able to see, hear, taste, s***l, feel or preseve any of it because you need those things to do so. So if you need a real good bullshit story that tops the rest of them try HOLY Shit
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