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MotherRussia
March 1st, 2009, 04:48 PM
The irony of religion is that because of it's power to divert man to destructive courses, the world actually could come to an end.

If you believe that the world is going to come to an end - and perhaps any day now; does it not drain one's motivation to improve life on Earth while we're here?

The plain fact is, Religion must die, for man kind to live. the hour is getting very late to be able to indulge in having key decisions, made by religious people; by irrationalists. by those who would steer the ship of state, not by a compass, but by the equivalent of reading the end-trails of a chicken

George Bush prayed a lot about iraq, but he didn't learn a lot about it.

faith, means making a virtue out of not thinking. it's nothing to brag about. those who preach faith and enable and elevate it, are intellectual slave holders; keeping man kind in a bondage to fantasy and nonsense that has spawned and justified so much lunacy and destruction.

Religion is dangerous because it allows human beings, who don't have all the answers, to think that they do. Most people would think it's wonderful when someone says, "im willing lord, i'll do whatever you want me to do."

except that since there are no god's actually talking to us, that void is filled in by people, with their own corruptions and limitations and agendas.

Anyone who tells you they know, they just know, what happens when you die; i promise you, you don't.

how can i be so sure? Because i don't know, and you do not possess mental powers that i do not.

The only appropriate attitude for man to have, about the big questions, is not the arrogant certainty which is the hallmark of religion; doubt. doubt is humble, and that's what man needs to be, considering that human history is notorious for getting shit dead wrong.

This is why rational people, anti-religionists, must end their timidity and come out of the closet and assert themselves. And those who consider themselves only moderately religious, really need to look in the mirror and realize that the solise and comfort that religion brings you, actually comes at a terrible price.

if you belong to a political party, or a social club, that was tied to as much bigitry, mesogony, homophobia, violence, and sheer ignorance as religion is - you'd resign in protest. To do other wise, is to be an enabler.

if the world does come to an end, here or where ever, or if it limps into the future, decimated by the affects of a religion inspired nuclear terrorism - lets remember what the real problem was.

that we learned how to percipitate mass death, before we got past the nuerological disorder of wishing for it.

that's it.

grow up, or die.

Cake
March 1st, 2009, 06:10 PM
I agree. Religion just ruins everything.

exial
March 1st, 2009, 06:49 PM
The irony of religion is that because of it's power to divert man to destructive courses, the world actually could come to an end.
What the hell? Where do you get your facts? Religions purpose is to unite mankind and give man principals to live his life by in "Peace and balance" with the planet and his fellow man. I dont like religion myself but your just plain wrong.

MotherRussia
March 1st, 2009, 06:52 PM
lol says who? that's it's "title" purpose, that doesn't mean that's the reality of it. i speak of the reality, not what your taught, numnuts

what do you think religious jihad's are all about? what about the fact that in the islam bible, it literally says 'kill the infidels"

do you know who they are? everyone else. how abot the fact that there's like 20x more muslims then jews, yet the muslims want them exterminated?

how about religious based terrorism, the real threat?

the reality is that religion is our own destruction when we are willing to destroy our own world environmentally, and through biological weapons, for some voice in our head called allah.

and this is just an example from one sect, i could go on with every religion and prove that statement true

exial
March 1st, 2009, 06:55 PM
lol says who? that's it's "title" purpose, that doesn't mean that's the reality of it. i speak of the reality, not what your taught, numnuts

Hey "NumNuts" i would have read your piece of writing and not commented until i read this:

The plain fact is

No its not. Its your own personal philosophy on religion.

MotherRussia
March 1st, 2009, 07:04 PM
stop posting on my threads, your an idiot

exial
March 1st, 2009, 07:12 PM
..... you completely failed in this thread. like... seriously. this was a speech given by bill maher in the documentary "religulous" as the conclusion to the dozens of interviews he conducted amount countless religious sects.

you've missed every bit of this that is relevant. this is not a scientific paper, but rather the conclusive results of one man's findings after ridiculous hours of research.

stop posting on my threads

What? Once again you prove your stupidity. I never said it was a scientific paper, all you did is copy/paste another mans "conclusive findings". And just becuz he spent oh soo many hours researching religion, it will still be PHILOSOPHY. We all have our own opinion. Thats the beauty of philosophy, and if your afraid of a little debate then Hell i will stop posting on your thread. Its shit anyway. :cool:

MotherRussia
March 1st, 2009, 07:14 PM
ya know what, fuck this shit, where's alli? ima get her to delete all your bullshit from this thread

exial
March 1st, 2009, 07:17 PM
no... really dude. your way off base and have no idea what your talking about.

you just got on me about calling something a fact, meaning yo uwere arguing science

my response was that it's not a scientfic paper so it's personal fact....

ya know what, fuck this shit, where's alli? ima get her to delete all your bullshit from this thread


oh, and btw. i didn't copy and paste SHIT. i transcribed it from a DOCUMENTARY!

your really confusing the shit out of me. And i doubt Kas will delete any of my posts. Im leaving this thread. Never to return. Goodbye World.

MotherRussia
March 1st, 2009, 07:20 PM
lol...wanna bet?

exial
March 1st, 2009, 07:21 PM
Yes Bet. I bet you 1,000 cash credits that Kas will not delete my posts on this thread.
I believe Kas to be fair, and respectful of opinions, so my trust in her over you is far deeper.

MotherRussia
March 1st, 2009, 07:53 PM
Yes Bet. I bet you 1,000 cash credits that Kas will not delete my posts on this thread.
I believe Kas to be fair, and respectful of opinions, so my trust in her over you is far deeper.

lol... but your just stupid. your original question holds no water because you proved you have no idea how a professional paper is written.

i stated what i was trying to prove as fact and then the content of the paper itself was the evidence i used to back it up.


seriously, quit while you're ahead. you've all but ruined this thread and now i wish i had never even responded to you - just let you continue in your stupidity

exial
March 1st, 2009, 07:59 PM
What the hell is wrong with you dude? You asked me if i want to bet and i accepted.

MotherRussia
March 1st, 2009, 08:07 PM
What the hell is wrong with you dude? You asked me if i want to bet and i accepted.

fuck dude just shut the fuck up, mother of god!!

the hell do i want 1,000 cash credits for? to rub my vagina on?

AlbertWesker
March 1st, 2009, 08:14 PM
You're a guy and you have a vagina?
Interesting.

exial
March 1st, 2009, 08:15 PM
You're a guy and you have a vagina?
Interesting.

Weird... i refuse to speak to this "transvesti" any longer. Goodbye.

methtownblue
March 1st, 2009, 08:28 PM
Mother of God, this is such a poorly written argument.

Religion is only as good as the people who follow it. If you follow religion to try to reach spiritual enlightenment, then that's fine with me. However when people decide to exploit it for financial gain or whatever, then it gets dangerous. Wars were fought because the two sides were often of different faith.

One of my friends is a muslim and she is such a kind girl. And she's also one of the smartest girls I know too, so I don't see how religion could possibly be detrimental for you.

MotherRussia
March 1st, 2009, 08:43 PM
im not saying shit about muslims, im talking about ALLLL religion is bad.

and i can prove it

go watch a documentary called "religulous"

methtownblue
March 1st, 2009, 09:03 PM
im not saying shit about muslims, im talking about ALLLL religion is bad.

and i can prove it

go watch a documentary called "religulous"

Yes, you are saying shit about muslims because they are included with the whole garden variety that you despise so much.

BTW do you hate right-path or left-path religions? Just curious.

MotherRussia
March 1st, 2009, 09:23 PM
lol... ALLL. the point is that its religion as an organised institution which is creating problems. not any particular religion or what they may believe. it's blind following and bad for society just like any other cult is.

religion is a cult, by any other name

methtownblue
March 1st, 2009, 09:47 PM
lol... ALLL. the point is that its religion as an organised institution which is creating problems. not any particular religion or what they may believe. it's blind following and bad for society just like any other cult is.

religion is a cult, by any other name

A religion can be anything. It can be a faith that involves the worshiping of an outside force like christianity which follows the teachings of Jesus(Right-path or Right-hand-path). It can also be where you worship yourself as a god and indulge(Left-path or Left-hand-path). Anton Levay teaches this with Satanism.

A cult is where a group of individuals are alienated from family and friends, and are brainwashed by a leader for purposes like gaining money. This is completely different from religion.

Don't rely on one source of information to make such conclusions, for that makes yourself blind and ignorent.

Kasnia
March 2nd, 2009, 12:25 AM
ya know what, fuck this shit, where's alli? ima get her to delete all your bullshit from this thread

Well I would totally close/delete this thread if you wanted me to. You're the original thread starter, and my homeboy. Lol.

Unfortunately, I'm not the mod of religion. I got Music and Politics. Sorry David!

MotherRussia
March 2nd, 2009, 03:10 AM
lol this guys a retard. nobody gets it, im thinking past that. im saying all religion is is following some leader stupidly. there is no god!

LordSkweegie
March 2nd, 2009, 03:16 AM
god is a title.

christ=christos= "the chosen/annointed"

superflysuperwhite
March 2nd, 2009, 12:21 PM
Dave.. you do relize you sound like a pompus ass, sometimes right? and it really does piss me off whenever you go on one of you spews about how everyone but you is wrong with something, you act like a kid telling everyone they are stupid because they dont see things the way you do... fuck you are worse then half the people on this site sometimes, get your head out of your ass and realize you're not the coolest kid on the block.. for fuck sake, you're talking philosophy here, there is no right answer in these kinds of arguements because it's all speculation. you're not allways right and in this thread.. you are pretty wrong.

we both know i dislike religion but, I see it as a nessesity for humanity.
if it wasnt for religion Europe would have fallen, Christianity united people.
religion still unites people.
not only that it gives people hope. something to actually live for.
you're first paragraph is quite frankly idiotic, if the people believed that the end of days were near, we'de probably see the biggest decreese in apathy since the 60s-70s.

there are people who have nothing but religion in there lives, take away religion you are takeing away the meaning for life of over half the population of the planet.

a nukeular holocost will more then likley ocure do to polotics, because look, most of the countries with WMD's are not run on religion, and if they do won't use them with the backing of religion.. because let's look who has them. U.S. we rarley don't normally use religion as a main factor for war. Russia, same thing. India and Pakistan, they'd probably just use them because they don't like eachother due to political and territorial reasons. North Korea, Communists. Now Iran, maybe. (not the whole list i am sure but it proves my point).

If humanity ends it will be at the hands of polotics, religion only becomes dangerous if it becomes polotics.. but that isnt allways the case.

as for life after death, my mother died giving birth, she came back to life.. she when she was dead, she herd everything around her, but didnt feel a thing and was at "peace" she was in a different conciousness. Now this could be explained by the fact that the brain can still be active after "death", but no one can say for sure what really happened.

you don't know what yo are talking about and to insinuate that you do, and that it is more of a valid thought then other people's on this subgect like this. you are just as stupid as all the people you are calling idiots.

yes religion has caused many problems, but it is usually when it takes the place of polotics that it actually does cause tremendous problems.

methtownblue
March 2nd, 2009, 02:51 PM
lol this guys a retard. nobody gets it, im thinking past that. im saying all religion is is following some leader stupidly. there is no god!

May I ask who is the retard you speak of?

If you are part of a religion, you don't need to follow an indoctrination or go to church/mosque. That in turn doesn't mean you have to follow the preaching of father (insert name here) every sunday and give money before and after service in order to go to heaven.

All you need to do is lead a life that would follow the teachings of Jesus; no need for a middle man. Besides, many people worship God or any other deity archtypically anyway, not literally.

MotherRussia
March 2nd, 2009, 06:36 PM
stop praying to jesus christ for a change and start making the change on your own.

that's the underlying theme, in context of your arguement

methtownblue
March 2nd, 2009, 06:56 PM
I'm an atheist, but that doesn't mean I'm going to rub bullshit in other peoples' faces just because they believe in an afterlife or whatever. That makes me what other people like to call "tolerant".

MotherRussia
March 2nd, 2009, 07:14 PM
and again, the whole point of this whole thing is that maybe we need to be a little less tolerant of who we allow to run our countries.

methtownblue
March 2nd, 2009, 07:19 PM
And who do we allow to run our countries?

BTW I have to present religion (especially western ones when people are more familiar with them) in an argument, otherwise I'm not showing anything that goes against your apparent anti-religion argument.

crazyassmetalhead
March 2nd, 2009, 07:27 PM
i'm sick of people trying to change the world with this retarded ass site...

who are you trying to convince anyway? have you read most of this forum?

preaching to the converted so to speak.....


is this your way of asserting yourself and rallying anti religious people? trying to get rid of something nearly as old as mankind by posting shit on the internet?

and the title of the thread is grow up........lol.

methtownblue
March 2nd, 2009, 07:38 PM
Oh yes, kids just say the darnest things.

crazyassmetalhead
March 2nd, 2009, 07:43 PM
idk why but i felt like being a dick.

methtownblue
March 2nd, 2009, 07:53 PM
Its OK, sometimes you got to present the cold-hearted truth to some people like a smack in the face with a hot frying pan, even if you feel bad about it.

MotherRussia
March 2nd, 2009, 08:41 PM
cory dude... your missing the point of this entire thread just like every other fucking person did. why is it the people who get it don't post (ie andrew completely understood) and the people who don't get it, post all kiinds of shit?

none of this is my fact or opinion. this is the transcribed conclusion of a documentary called Religulous, that i found to have some great fucking points, albeit a some flaws.

all of the responses i got were nothing but bullshit telling me how i don't know what im talking about and im way off base.

obviously - i hit a nerve.
Q.E.D.



and by the way, i am the coolest kid on the block.

methtownblue
March 2nd, 2009, 08:59 PM
You still haven't answered my question.

Don't you even dare cower and say that this was none of your opinion, even if its the truth. That proves that you are a truly mindless slave to what other people tell you, for you can't even think for yourself. You are also biased when you didn't even tell everyone the "flaws" in the documentary.

And don't tell anti-religionists to "come out of the closet"; that term is more reserved for homosexuals who are afraid of what their parents will do.

And you're are only as cool as people think you are.

MotherRussia
March 2nd, 2009, 09:16 PM
hahahahahaha first of all, noooooo im only as cool as i think i am. you can think whatever you want but in MY world - im the fucking man.

second, im not cowering about shit - man what the fuckin hell, can none of you take this for what it is? fuck, i really struck a nerve.

let me explain one more time
idiot's guide edition

i found a cool topic, played devil's advocate defending the initial point, as it can't defend itself if you some ignorant asshole misunderstands shit - and instead your all taking it completely the wrong way and missing the author's intended point.

methtownblue
March 2nd, 2009, 09:27 PM
We all like to dream don't we? You are only as cool as people think you are. If everyone thinks you are great-you are cool. If you think you are great, that's fine if others have that same opinion about you. Move back to this world you speak of, because no one wants you here on Earth.

Yes are cowering. You are posting something stupid, and then cowering behind the shadow of a documentary. You did this mostly out of using it as a failsafe and try to make people here hate it instead of you. Sure you struck a nerve, but not in a good way unfortunately.

MotherRussia
March 2nd, 2009, 09:33 PM
... your full of so much shit. im not even argueing with you, you're just wrong xD

methtownblue
March 2nd, 2009, 09:39 PM
Please elaborate for me being wrong, on behalf of all the people on this forum.

crazyassmetalhead
March 2nd, 2009, 10:02 PM
dude he's promoting the documentary, it's cool i just misinterpreted what he said....plus, as previously stated i felt like being a dick.

and LNT.....mother russia.........is cool as shit.

ask anyone.



is it good that you came back or does that mean you fucked up your whole plan?

MotherRussia
March 2nd, 2009, 10:05 PM
Please elaborate for me being wrong, on behalf of all the people on this forum.

who died and made you commander and chief? seriously? i've never even heard of you before!

and to metal head:
yah kind of a combination. im back but im not really back - notice how im staying away from the drug section, for example? i've cut back drastically but i don't think i'll ever get over being a stoner

crazyassmetalhead
March 2nd, 2009, 10:14 PM
it's just one of those things...

OmniCronic
March 3rd, 2009, 01:21 AM
The true irony of religion is that in every religion there is a god/goddess of some sort that tells us(people) that we should not kill.



... But that's all we ever do.

itismesaj
March 3rd, 2009, 01:38 AM
Is nobody aware that this is Bill Maher's basically famous concluding speech from Religulous? Because it seems that nobody has gotten that yet... Well, except Cuddles, but he quoted the damned thing.

freetibet
March 3rd, 2009, 04:01 AM
another teen who thinks they've got the universe figured out because they watched a documentary or two...

What is really funny is that you think the answer to a perceived intolerance (religion) is more intolerance. Its like fucking for virginity...

MotherRussia
March 3rd, 2009, 11:36 AM
Is nobody aware that this is Bill Maher's basically famous concluding speech from Religulous? Because it seems that nobody has gotten that yet... Well, except Cuddles, but he quoted the damned thing.

no i did

The true irony of religion is that in every religion there is a god/goddess of some sort that tells us(people) that we should not kill.



... But that's all we ever do.

he's getting it too!!!

and to freetibet

are you fucking serious?! every single one of you has missed the entire point of this speech.

the point is that there needs to be seperatation of church and state in government, because government has no place for sticking your hands together and praying for change. if your in government you are to create change yourself. no eye in the sky is going to fix your problems - you need to fix your problems.

that's all. that is the main underlying point of all of this.

and another thing - im not a teenager dumbfuck hahaha my hormones don't rage anymore

exial
March 3rd, 2009, 01:01 PM
Well I would totally close/delete this thread if you wanted me to. You're the original thread starter, and my homeboy. Lol.

Unfortunately, I'm not the mod of religion. I got Music and Politics. Sorry David!

Hahahahahaha. :D

MotherRussia
March 3rd, 2009, 01:05 PM
Hahahahahaha. :D

lol, touche buddy - but i still won the bet. you said alli wouldn't, she said she would. whether she has the power to or not is irrelevant.

now onto bigger matters.

i felt this bit here was relevant to this thread as well;


To MotherRussia: I don't know what my religion or a member of it did to offend you, whenever ago. But please accept my apology on their behalf, (ugh, I hate spelling) nobody's perfect. If we were, we wouldn't need things like religion, beer, and weed, to make us feel better. BTW, 90%? How many mormons have you met? Just curious?

actually i completely agree with you; if it weren't for our own insecurities and short comings, no one would need to live their lives based on some bullshit 'god'/religion theorem.

PEOPLE created religion, as a means to COPE.

religion is bullshit
Q.E.D.

as far as what your religion in particular did to offend me? it existed. and further, your religion happens to be one of the stupidest of them all - though it's not such a big race. it's like the difference of 99.8% stupid and 99.9% stupid.

now as for how many mormon's i've met?
i'm a sociologist and traveler. i've lived up and down the east coast of the US, traveled to damn near all the states, and lived in asia for a while.
i know what i'm talking about because everything i have to say is based on 1st hand accounts and experiences. i've been to mormon churches, i've been to lunatic church of christ gatherings, i've had service in a synogogue and prayed with the muslims during the celebration of the pilgrimage.
i've studied theologies in 6 different schools, for cumulative 10+ years.

and just to get specific to this case and relevance; i've read all of the Mormon doctrines and teachings and studied them along side actual Mormons.

if this doesn't qualify me as knowing more then EVERY SINGLE ONE OF YOU SACKS OF SHIT - then fuck off. hahah i still win

knowledge is in knowing - i don't need the validation of some high school kids to tell me i know what im talking about.

maybe you should all come down ioff your hormonal imbalances long enough to realize that maybe i have a bit of knowledge to offer you, instead of closing your minds instantly to the thought that you could be wrong.

but well, that's just characteristic of the typical adolescent male, isn't it?

methtownblue
March 3rd, 2009, 02:24 PM
who died and made you commander and chief? seriously? i've never even heard of you before!

and to metal head:
yah kind of a combination. im back but im not really back - notice how im staying away from the drug section, for example? i've cut back drastically but i don't think i'll ever get over being a stoner

Of course you haven't heard of me before, I'm new after all. And don't think someone important here died and I somehow came into power, for that's a ridiculous claim. What I'm trying to say is that you still failed to demystify the point of your "transcribed" argument and therefore tell us why the one thing that we followed since before written history is so wrong for us.

And to OnmiCronic, you make an interesting point, albeit a bit obvious. The truth is: you have to kill to survive. Every animal does it, mainly for acquiring nutrition or self-defense. So don't think that humans are the only stone-cold killers on this planet. Unless of course when you talk about wars, then that's usually for political purposes only. Politicians still manipulate people today not because of religion, but because of some hidden agenda. Therefore it is impossible to avoid a hypocracy like killing, because we wouldn't be here on this planet. One of the main reasons why levayan satanism seems to make more sense than what many other religions have to offer.

Kasnia
March 3rd, 2009, 11:15 PM
And to OnmiCronic, you make an interesting point, albeit a bit obvious. The truth is: you have to kill to survive. Every animal does it, mainly for acquiring nutrition or self-defense. So don't think that humans are the only stone-cold killers on this planet. Unless of course when you talk about wars, then that's usually for political purposes only. Politicians still manipulate people today not because of religion, but because of some hidden agenda. Therefore it is impossible to avoid a hypocracy like killing, because we wouldn't be here on this planet. One of the main reasons why levayan satanism seems to make more sense than what many other religions have to offer.

Do you really think politicians don't use religion to manipulate people? In a sense, they do. Why do you think that Candidate A will throw around rumors about Candidate B's religion, basically telling everyone they're not a Christian (speaking from the U.S. here). People freak out, and even if someone comes out about their religion, says the other person was lying, etc, some people still believe the original rumor. People let religion control their lives to the point where they're willing to base their entire vote on someone's religious beliefs. They don't take into consideration the major things, like how the candidate plans on digging us out of this debt, fixing our economy, what they plan on doing about the war, etc etc. So how is that not using religion to manipulate people?


Also, not every war is political. People fight over religion too.

freetibet
March 3rd, 2009, 11:42 PM
Do you really think politicians don't use religion to manipulate people? In a sense, they do. Why do you think that Candidate A will throw around rumors about Candidate B's religion, basically telling everyone they're not a Christian (speaking from the U.S. here). People freak out, and even if someone comes out about their religion, says the other person was lying, etc, some people still believe the original rumor. People let religion control their lives to the point where they're willing to base their entire vote on someone's religious beliefs. They don't take into consideration the major things, like how the candidate plans on digging us out of this debt, fixing our economy, what they plan on doing about the war, etc etc. So how is that not using religion to manipulate people?


Also, not every war is political. People fight over religion too.

So what is your solution?

outlaw religion? make proselytizing illegal? force religious people to pay a special tax?

Kasnia
March 3rd, 2009, 11:48 PM
So what is your solution?

outlaw religion? make proselytizing illegal? force religious people to pay a special tax?

What do you mean, "What is your solution?" You know there's not shit I can do about it. I'm just trying to prove my point. Religion shouldn't have anything to do with politics in my opinion. I think the fact that someone is willing to vote or base their ideas about a person, especially one that is going to have quite a bit of power, is stupid. They're using religion to control their lives. It should be used as a guideline, but not completely control it. And that's what people are doing.

MotherRussia
March 3rd, 2009, 11:49 PM
no the solution is exactly what the end of the speech said

The only appropriate attitude for man to have, about the big questions, is not the arrogant certainty which is the hallmark of religion; doubt. doubt is humble, and that's what man needs to be, considering that human history is notorious for getting shit dead wrong.

This is why rational people, anti-religionists, must end their timidity and come out of the closet and assert themselves. And those who consider themselves only moderately religious, really need to look in the mirror and realize that the solise and comfort that religion brings you, actually comes at a terrible price.

let me finally throw a bit more personal opinion it here:

the solution is that a religious revolution happen, so to speak. people need to realise that religion is not a way of answer questions that are scientific in nature. keep religion with religion, science with science (politics with politics, etc).

keep your religion to yourself, and make decisions off fact - not prayer.

secondly, we need to stop relying on invisible beings to solve our problems and start spending the time we use praying, and "that passion [we have] in god" and use all of that energy towards fixing our own problems.

freetibet
March 3rd, 2009, 11:58 PM
What do you mean, "What is your solution?" You know there's not shit I can do about it. I'm just trying to prove my point. Religion shouldn't have anything to do with politics in my opinion. I think the fact that someone is willing to vote or base their ideas about a person, especially one that is going to have quite a bit of power, is stupid. They're using religion to control their lives. It should be used as a guideline, but not completely control it. And that's what people are doing.

Well i'm sure if the world was atheist, people would do similar things with philosophy or what type of atheism candidates followed.

I think its wrong people base their political decisions on religion, color, culture but for that to stop people would have to stop being stupid... and that will never happen

MotherRussia
March 4th, 2009, 12:05 AM
...and that will never happen

100% agreed - which is why the religious revolution i speak of will never happen, or atleast not for a long as fucking time.

however, let's imagine that the president of the united states 32 years from now is one of our vary own members of this site. let's imagine as well that he happened to read this thread and understood it as a few of us obviously do.

now it's not so far fetched that one person can change the world.

and btw, it's not so far fetched either that any one of the members that have been on the site, might one day be in a position of power in the government; infact, it's inevitable. just take a look at the number of users, active or otherwise, the site has seen in the last 10 years. then take a guess at where it's gonna be in 32 years? guaranteed one of us will be in government. actually guaranteed a good few will.

OmniCronic
March 4th, 2009, 05:53 AM
I grew up in a small town of 100 people, and a church I never went to because my family had other things it needed to do to survive. I'm not very intelligent because I never made it out of high school, I dropped out and have worked to keep a roof over our heads.

The reason why I state that is because, I don't know much about the bible or any religion other than none. That's why it makes it easy for me to say that all I've ever seen from religion is war, and fighting. Even now I see the exact same thing I've always seen from religion, fighting.

methtownblue
March 4th, 2009, 03:07 PM
Do you really think politicians don't use religion to manipulate people? In a sense, they do. Why do you think that Candidate A will throw around rumors about Candidate B's religion, basically telling everyone they're not a Christian (speaking from the U.S. here). People freak out, and even if someone comes out about their religion, says the other person was lying, etc, some people still believe the original rumor. People let religion control their lives to the point where they're willing to base their entire vote on someone's religious beliefs. They don't take into consideration the major things, like how the candidate plans on digging us out of this debt, fixing our economy, what they plan on doing about the war, etc etc. So how is that not using religion to manipulate people?


Also, not every war is political. People fight over religion too.

Kas, I do believe you misinterpreted my post, just like I misinterpreted Russia's post.

Seriously, I pretty much thought you were just some kid pissed off at the world. The piss-poor structure and grammer, the homophobic anylogy and ultimatum at the end were indicaters, so it overpowered my usually clear mind. Now I understand your agrument much better, although you didn't articulate it well enough, pretty much why only a "few" people here understood.

MotherRussia
March 4th, 2009, 03:32 PM
the problem stems from assumptions
when you assume you make an ass out of everyone.

so make it a lesson to all to stop assuming you know, and open your minds - except in my case hahah because i do know

methtownblue
March 4th, 2009, 03:36 PM
No shit sherlock. Anywho, just make a better post next time and I might actually agree with you instead of dismissing it as bullshit. That way I won't have another "OH NOOOOWW I get it" moment.

MotherRussia
March 4th, 2009, 03:47 PM
lol... it was transcribed word for word and quoted. im not going to change a quote to fit your needs xDDDD

maybe you should just get more intelligent real fast.

methtownblue
March 4th, 2009, 03:55 PM
Now you are getting annoying. Maybe instead of qouting it word for word you could simply say it was a movie about how religion can be bad in making decisions. Seriously, you might as well have said "spoiler alert" instead of "grow up".