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Ghostfacekiller
February 14th, 2009, 01:41 AM
Lets say you died and there was a god, what would you say to him?

GaMeRbOt
February 14th, 2009, 01:54 AM
Lets say you died and there was a god, what would you say to him?

Have you seen my muffins?

Nebuchadnezzar
February 14th, 2009, 01:59 AM
Well, I would be respectful, but if I spent more than 5 minutes with him, I'd probably kind of go WHAT THE FUCK IS YOUR PROBLEM!?!?!

cocky sonofabitch

a2thae
February 14th, 2009, 05:08 AM
Lets say you died and there was a god, what would you say to him?

I'd probably be like, "oh shit," I guess you did exist. I would then engage in asking him many questions, as to why he/she approached things a certain way.

Or maybe I'd punch him, I mean even if I were to go to hell, at least I will be able to say for eternity I punched god in the fuckin face.

p3ntacle
February 14th, 2009, 05:39 PM
Hey... Muffins~

La Bomba
February 14th, 2009, 05:39 PM
I'd probably be like, "oh shit," I guess you did exist. I would then engage in asking him many questions, as to why he/she approached things a certain way.

Or maybe I'd punch him, I mean even if I were to go to hell, at least I will be able to say for eternity I punched god in the fuckin face.

haha yea that would be great.

I dono, i would probably just be like "oh hi there"

p3ntacle
February 14th, 2009, 05:40 PM
Wait...someone else said this? Whoa...somehow I did not see that.

frankenstein
February 14th, 2009, 08:05 PM
well first i would ask, is the bible true? if it said yes it is an accurate history of my dealing with humans. then i would have no choose but to attack it saying, you evil pice of shit how dare you drowned the the entire population of earth except your little suck up, how dare you threaten to kill your followers if they did not go out and and kill and take towns. you demonize the serpent who got man to eat from the tree of knowledge what all you wanted man to be was petty animal flinging shit at each other. the evil devil in your book begs us to think you beg us to murder blindly at your fucking whims your the evil one your the demon!

crazyassmetalhead
February 14th, 2009, 08:46 PM
i would play up his/her insecurities and use them to my advantage as i do with people....and if god happens to be a hot girl i'd probably fuck her after we work out her daddy issues and such

cause god has some major daddy issues

methtownblue
February 14th, 2009, 09:02 PM
well first i would ask, is the bible true? if it said yes it is an accurate history of my dealing with humans. then i would have no choose but to attack it saying, you evil pice of shit how dare you drowned the the entire population of earth except your little suck up, how dare you threaten to kill your followers if they did not go out and and kill and take towns. you demonize the serpent who got man to eat from the tree of knowledge what all you wanted man to be was petty animal flinging shit at each other. the evil devil in your book begs us to think you beg us to murder blindly at your fucking whims your the evil one your the demon!

I think God became a deity with less anger during the New Testament. The birth of his son on Earth must have calmed him down...

exial
February 15th, 2009, 01:07 AM
Lets say you died and there was a god, what would you say to him?

Meh .

WeirdD
February 15th, 2009, 02:30 AM
id probably either apologize sincerely or do something fucked up
like shit on his shoes, or spit in his eye

exial
February 15th, 2009, 02:41 AM
or spit in his eye
Hahahaha... :D

A Deo et Rege
February 15th, 2009, 02:52 AM
When I meet God face to face I will have but one question, why? I doubt many can discern my reason for asking this seemingly insignificant question, but if you can then you too seek answers to the unanswerable.

..)/\(
<Deo>
..)\/(

exial
February 15th, 2009, 02:56 AM
I dont see that qestion as insignificant. Probally the best thing you could ask, if you seek answers.

freetibet
February 15th, 2009, 04:01 AM
It would seem the majority of atheists here think that there can't be a God because of all the suffering in the world. Some of you it would seem, would even be angry at God if he did exist.

I would recommend a book or two to help you understand, but I doubt anyone would read what I recommended...

exial
February 15th, 2009, 05:04 AM
It would seem the majority of atheists here think that there can't be a God because of all the suffering in the world. Some of you it would seem, would even be angry at God if he did exist.

I would recommend a book or two to help you understand, but I doubt anyone would read what I recommended...

You see the truth is freetibet, You dont have to believe in something for it to exist.

freetibet
February 15th, 2009, 05:26 AM
uhhh.... ok

and ya thats true, you don't have to believe in rocks for them to exist.

I have a feeling your just making fun of me though...

frankenstein
February 15th, 2009, 02:00 PM
i have read a few books recommended on this web site and have not liked one of them. as for me being angry that their is bad in the world thats not it for me. its the bad "god" specifically created that would piss me off.

WeirdD
February 15th, 2009, 02:36 PM
ehh its not so much that i would be angry with god or anything like that,
but like a2 said how many people get to say they did something crazy to god like punch him in the head or spit on him?

lol, im in it for the fame

panterax
February 16th, 2009, 01:11 PM
i'd ask :why didn't u tell me something about this during life...

deathlord888
February 16th, 2009, 01:29 PM
lol, i would say god damn eh well looks like i am still going to heaven and i didnt even waste my time going to church!

exial
February 16th, 2009, 03:58 PM
I would say... do they got smokes in heaven?

Cake
February 16th, 2009, 04:18 PM
Although i am agnostic.....if i WERE an athiest id be like...holy shit...your god....your a bastard...literally.....

remadon1
February 16th, 2009, 05:39 PM
Go back to page 1 you forgot about the muffins ..... I bet god makes good muffins..............

freetibet
February 17th, 2009, 02:03 AM
lol, i would say god damn eh well looks like i am still going to heaven and i didnt even waste my time going to church!

hmm this explains your viewpoint...

I think you would likely be in hell, but not one that god put you in. I think you would be in a hell of your own making.

It is my opinion that, being an atheist, you would never meet God. You would realize there was a God, and you would be in the afterlife, but God would be beyond your reach.

I'm a complete ass but even I realize your not supposed to spit on the one being in the universe that actually loves you.

superflysuperwhite
February 17th, 2009, 10:51 AM
hmm this explains your viewpoint...

I think you would likely be in hell, but not one that god put you in. I think you would be in a hell of your own making.

It is my opinion that, being an atheist, you would never meet God. You would realize there was a God, and you would be in the afterlife, but God would be beyond your reach.

I'm a complete ass but even I realize your not supposed to spit on the one being in the universe that actually loves you.

not nesisicarily, i mean if you just said meh theres no "god" without actually even giving any bit of effort in trying to find "god" then youll go to "hell" but if you truely believe there is no "god" because you have tried to find it but you just couldnt accept it, then i think you'll beable to get into "heaven".


but... something is confusing the shit out of me here... how do any of you expect to "punch god" in the face..

It's "god" i'm pretty sure you're not going to beable to punch the end all be all perfect omnipotent creator of the univers

Kasnia
February 17th, 2009, 01:05 PM
I would say, "Well I'll be god damned." Just to see if he'd laugh with me or not. Lol.

freetibet
February 17th, 2009, 07:16 PM
not nesisicarily, i mean if you just said meh theres no "god" without actually even giving any bit of effort in trying to find "god" then youll go to "hell" but if you truely believe there is no "god" because you have tried to find it but you just couldnt accept it, then i think you'll beable to get into "heaven".

Well I guess that would depend on the kind of life you led. If you were an asshole atheist, or even an asshole Christian you'd likely end up in hell.

GaMeRbOt
February 17th, 2009, 07:18 PM
All I know is he stole my muffins and I wants them back!

freetibet
February 17th, 2009, 09:29 PM
I think its impossible to 'meet' god.

You'd have more luck in meeting China or the emotions of mankind than you would trying to meet God.

LordSkweegie
February 18th, 2009, 12:52 AM
my question for god : "yo, you wonna buy this gun?"

Foshiznay
February 18th, 2009, 05:53 AM
I would be to damn speechless to say anything

exial
February 18th, 2009, 12:43 PM
I would be to damn speechless to say anything

Thats the most honest post on this whole thread. Respect.

charlee
February 18th, 2009, 02:38 PM
i believe in somthing for the sake ill get into heaven if there is one, but say i was an aethiest and i went to heaven to talk to god i'd probably ask for a never ending dubey to last me through hell, seeing as how hes never done much for me likewise.

drugfeind
February 20th, 2009, 10:50 AM
. you demonize the serpent who got man to eat from the tree of knowledge what all you wanted man to be was petty animal flinging shit at each other. the evil devil in your book begs us to think you beg us to murder blindly at your fucking whims your the evil one your the demon!

ok people here is some knowledge.

Brainwashing is not new. It goes back to the dawn of civilization. Adam and Eve were both brainwashed by the serpent in the Garden of Eden. They succumbed very easily. They believed a lie that conflicted with the truth previously given to them. Such is the nature of humans.

Atheism (the denial of God) is a modern human belief. Artifacts in ancient burial sites reveal that humans have always believed in a life after death and a Creator God. Humans have a natural belief in God. Brainwashing by books, schools and the major media is required to make a human atheistic.

Electrical engineers faithfully employ laws concerning the flow of electricity and electromagnetic fields. Structural engineers apply laws concerning the stress and strain of materials in the design of giant structures. Then something weird happened. Charles Darwin proposed the Theory of Evolution that had no basis in fact whatsoever. It could not be proven and violated observations in nature on every turn, but it was accepted by many people. The Theory of Evolution was born out of Darwin's self brainwashing.

brainwashing crept into the fields of astronomy, astrophysics and cosmology. Astronomer Percival Lowell was brainwashed by Giovanni Schiaparelli, who was director of the Milan Observatory and an esteemed Italian astronomer, into believing there was life on Mars. Schiaparelli said there was a network of canals built by the inhabitants crisscrossing the planet. Lowell moved to Flagstaff, AZ in 1894 to study Mars using the large telescope there. He saw the canals also, but we know today they never existed. Schiaparelli brainwashed himself as well as Lowell. Part of this brainwashing has been cleansed from science, but many scientists still expect to find life on Mars.

Another monumental stumble occurred in science when Dr. Edwin Hubble concluded that the light coming from distant galaxies was shifted to the red spectrum because the galaxies were all moving away from earth at an accelerating rate. Tracing the direction and velocity of the galaxies produced the concept that the cosmos existed at a point in the finite past. Boom - the Big Bang Theory was born. Dr. Hubble should have given it more thought. The most likely possible cause for the red shift of light is the slowing of the speed of the light, not the acceleration of the distant galaxies. The massive brainwashing was off and running. Astronomers, astrophysicists and cosmologists could now give a theory for the creation of the cosmos that excluded Intelligent design. It didn't matter that the theory violated many of the existing laws of science. Both were accepted by the brainwashed individuals.

Children today are brainwashed with preschool cartoons into believing the bogus Theory of Evolution and Big Bang Theory. The elementary school system continues to refine the brainwashing. The poor children are helpless at rejecting these unproven theories. They grow up becoming brainwashed doctors of philosophy that teach the same nonsense to their students.

frankenstein
February 20th, 2009, 11:19 AM
This thread is not a religious debate. Your so fucking stupid so afraid of what you dont know you have to describe it as others being brainwashed!

ramalamafafafa
February 20th, 2009, 11:23 AM
I suppose i'd say "dude, this book, it's bullshit, innit? And your son, that dude is a total prick"

drugfeind
February 20th, 2009, 11:27 AM
SHUT UP TOOL. Im contributing some useful information to the thread. By the way brainwashing is involved in everything you douchebag

LordSkweegie
February 20th, 2009, 12:19 PM
I suppose i'd say "dude, this book, it's bullshit, innit? And your son, that dude is a total prick"

hahahaha, rama 1 .... jesus 0.

honestly if you belive in ghosts in the sky your fucking retarded. physics+logic=no god.

freetibet
February 20th, 2009, 07:54 PM
honestly if you belive in ghosts in the sky your fucking retarded. physics+logic=no god.

Then why are there so many stupid atheists?

lol

I suppose i'd say "dude, this book, it's bullshit, innit? And your son, that dude is a total prick"

ok... well what if it was the buddhist god, or the muslim god, then what?

There is more than 1 religion ya know

Kasnia
February 20th, 2009, 07:58 PM
ok... well what if it was the buddhist god, or the muslim god, then what?

There is more than 1 religion ya know

And I'm sure that when people talk about God, they have their one god set in mind. If someone is Christian, they're immediately going to assume that you're referring to their god whenever you say "God" unless you specify otherwise.

Good question though. I'd still be speechless, no matter which one it was that I saw.

Count Chocula
February 20th, 2009, 09:44 PM
ok... well what if it was the buddhist god, or the muslim god, then what?

There is more than 1 religion ya know
Muslim god=christian god. But I guess that doesn't really matter anyway because god=fake.

freetibet
February 20th, 2009, 09:48 PM
Muslim god=christian god. But I guess that doesn't really matter anyway because god=fake.

According to Muslims Jesus is not the son of God. So the phrase ramalama said would only apply to the Christian God. The trinity is different from the Muslim God. I think the Jewish and Muslim god are pretty similar though.

And I don't think "god=fake" but you are entitled to your opinion.

Count Chocula
February 20th, 2009, 09:50 PM
Muslims still believe in the same god, that is to say allah and yaweh are both in reference to the same deity. And god=fake.

freetibet
February 20th, 2009, 09:57 PM
well it doesn't matter if the christian God is similiar to the muslim God, because the way ramal said he would talk to god wouldn't apply if the muslim religion was correct.

and this debate isn't about whether God is fake or not. Its about what you as an atheist would say if it turned out you were wrong.

So far i've seen...0 people say they would apologize lol

Count Chocula
February 20th, 2009, 10:00 PM
I would say "Fuck you, if you're so omniscient you don't have to leave your existence open to debate to judge people."

freetibet
February 20th, 2009, 10:18 PM
you really think that's what you would say to God after just dying?

I think you'd be too shocked to say anything... at least for a while

and after you regained composure I very much doubt you would say any sort of insult.

ramalamafafafa
February 20th, 2009, 10:39 PM
Nah, i'd call him a sadist asshole.

Count Chocula
February 20th, 2009, 10:40 PM
A temporary wtf does not take away your ability to speak.

freetibet
February 20th, 2009, 10:49 PM
A temporary wtf does not take away your ability to speak.

This isn't a temporary 'wtf'. This is finding out there is an afterlife, finding out there is a God, and finding out you have lived your whole life the wrong way all in 1 moment.

Count Chocula
February 20th, 2009, 10:55 PM
Ummm... yeah. Sounds like a wtf to me.

ramalamafafafa
February 20th, 2009, 11:13 PM
This isn't a temporary 'wtf'. This is finding out there is an afterlife, finding out there is a God, and finding out you have lived your whole life the wrong way all in 1 moment.

Nah.


But we can take comfort in knowing that there is no god, no afterlife, and the bible (and all religious texts) are piles of bullshit.

freetibet
February 20th, 2009, 11:22 PM
its impossible to know those things...

thats why questions like the one ghostface asked matter

ramalamafafafa
February 21st, 2009, 12:23 AM
its impossible to know those things...

thats why questions like the one ghostface asked matter

No, it's not.

Show me some proof of god. Untill then, he doesn't exist.

GaMeRbOt
February 24th, 2009, 06:21 PM
HIEL ramalamafafafa

freetibet
February 24th, 2009, 07:17 PM
No, it's not.

Show me some proof of god. Untill then, he doesn't exist.

So if I don't show you proof of me, I don't exist?

you are a very confused person

ramalamafafafa
February 24th, 2009, 10:47 PM
So if I don't show you proof of me, I don't exist?

you are a very confused person

I can claim that a giant ogre lives in the sea. You can't disprove it, so it must exist, right?

GaMeRbOt
February 25th, 2009, 12:40 AM
Does this ogre have a brother? And are they guarding Excalibur?

freetibet
February 25th, 2009, 04:11 AM
I can claim that a giant ogre lives in the sea. You can't disprove it, so it must exist, right?

ummm no...

I didn't say it did.

I was trying to show you that I exist even if i don't prove myself to you.

Kasnia
February 26th, 2009, 12:49 PM
ummm no...

I didn't say it did.

I was trying to show you that I exist even if i don't prove myself to you.

Well, obviously someone on that side of the computer has to exist because you're posting messages, right? That's more than God has ever done.

WeirdD
February 26th, 2009, 01:59 PM
^^ bingo bango

has anyone ever SEEN god? or talked to him, has god ever been on fox news or CNN? has he / she ever written a letter to someone, or in any way directly communicated to any human being?

no, so to me that means there is no proof.

A Deo et Rege
February 26th, 2009, 05:25 PM
^^ bingo bango

has anyone ever SEEN god? or talked to him, has god ever been on fox news or CNN? has he / she ever written a letter to someone, or in any way directly communicated to any human being?

no, so to me that means there is no proof.

I'll just say this; the absence of proof is not the proof of absence. Has anyone ever seen, or been able to directly detect dark matter, no; however, there are many scientist who believe that our universe could not possibly exists without it, therefore it must exists.

..)/\(
<Deo>
..)\/(

Fuck_the_Pigs
February 27th, 2009, 11:02 PM
Dark Matter? We know there must be something out there that has to control the rotation speeds of galaxies and such. We are simply giving that force the name dark matter. However, in reality we know nothing about dark matter.

But everything can be explained, even if we don't know the answer yet.

After I had my "wtf moment" I would attack "god" why he gave his humans free-will and thn force upon them his religion. If in responce to this he said that he trusted us to do the "right" thing, I would proceed to ask why he is such a nieve hypocrite.

Dylan334
March 5th, 2009, 11:56 AM
Hi wassup'

Voisee
March 7th, 2009, 11:44 PM
Which God?

methtownblue
March 7th, 2009, 11:51 PM
Which God?

Any higher being in an afterlife would qualify as a god(or goddess, but we don't know if deities even have genders), hence the reason Ghostface saying "a god" instead of simply "God". This means he is including every religion, no matter how stupid, to avoid being considered biased toward one.

Voisee
March 8th, 2009, 12:00 AM
Thanks for explaining that.

What happened to the gods?

methtownblue
March 8th, 2009, 02:09 PM
You're welcome, and welcome to ACB.

The gods....they are dying, because like Santa Claus and the Easter bunny, everyone starts to question their existence and no longer believes in them.

marcraft
March 9th, 2009, 12:45 AM
there was a great article in new scientist about human psychology and religion a while ago, ill try and find it later.

if the 'god' had the physical form of a human i would charge at it and choke it to death. if it couldnt die i would choke it untill my conscious existence ended. i would try in every possible way to hurt it however i could, and i would never stop.
even if i had a weapon i wouldnt use it, i want to feel god die with my own hands. i want to feel the pulse slowing down and stopping, and then and only then will i be satisfied.

Voisee
March 9th, 2009, 05:09 AM
Cheers methtownblue,

does this mean that you believe the gods are dying because their existance depends upon our belief (Thus Spake Zarathustra)
or do you believe that the belif in gods is dying?



(I seek not to know all the answers. But to understand the questions -Caine.)

Nebuchadnezzar
March 9th, 2009, 05:25 AM
Well, obviously someone on that side of the computer has to exist because you're posting messages, right? That's more than God has ever done.

Freetibet could be a bot....

I always wondered why his opinions were so one-dimensional.

ramalamafafafa
March 9th, 2009, 05:32 AM
...... I always wondered why his opinions were so one-dimensional.

He's a free-market, anti-abortion christian.

'Nuff said.

methtownblue
March 9th, 2009, 02:36 PM
I myself approach religion, along with everything else, with logic. Having a more scientific viewpoint helps in sorting out the fact from fiction. With that, I reason that almost every religion is flawed, being that they often originated in a time when people weren't very educated and needed something that could explain what they didn't understand.

So I don't believe in gods. But others do, because they also reason that even science can't explain how exactly this universe came into fruition.

Also, I was talking about how people's faith are dying, not the gods themselves.

marcraft
March 10th, 2009, 10:38 AM
that gods dying because people dont believe in them is strait from Terry Pratchets books.

people belive in religon because its easy, religon makes life easier (you dont have to think for yourself or reason whether something is right or not) and 'people' will always take the easiest path.

freetibet
March 10th, 2009, 01:10 PM
Freetibet could be a bot....

I always wondered why his opinions were so one-dimensional.

I believe in a higher power, you don't. If my opinion is 'one-dimensional' then so is yours. We just disagree is all.

I keep myself open to the possibilities though, which is more than I can say for any atheist.

He's a free-market, anti-abortion christian.

'Nuff said.

Who says i'm anti-abortion? I think abortion can be a good thing in certain settings.

I'm proud of my capitalist views though, so no argument there.

JohnLennonII
March 11th, 2009, 10:45 AM
I think that should I come to the end of my life and see that I was wrong all along, I would simply break down.
Nobody can really say that they would just throw some catchy one-liner into the face of an All-Mighty Being (Christian/Muslim) an entire pantheon(Greek/Egyptian/Roman/Norse) or any other type of being(s) as theorized by the world's religion.
freetibet, I happen to disagree with you, but I'm not going to attack your person, just your ideas.
Ya'll talk about logic, let's have less Ad Hom.

freetibet
March 14th, 2009, 02:10 PM
you disagree with me?

ok, that was rather vague...

JohnLennonII
March 14th, 2009, 05:10 PM
I keep myself open to the possibilities though, which is more than I can say for any atheist.

Yes, I disagree with you.
What is the vaugeness?
If that's even a word?

freetibet
March 15th, 2009, 08:00 PM
ok... well what exactly is it you disagree with? and why?

and yes it is a word, here is a dictionary defintion:

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/vague

Warpurlgis
March 15th, 2009, 08:35 PM
I believe in GOD. Not by the Bible so precisely. I think its been very tainted over years. Everyone has different interpretations of faith, so stfu and stop arguing

JohnLennonII
March 16th, 2009, 04:57 AM
"Everyone has different interpretations of faith, so stfu and stop arguing"
You ask us to stop learning.
"Shutting the fuck up" and not asking questions prevents us from learning.

freetibet, I mean the word I used "vaugeness."
And I disasgree when you say that all atheists are close-minded.
That's an incredibly close-minded thing to say.

freetibet
March 16th, 2009, 08:38 AM
Atheists believe that there is no chance at all of there being a supernatural. They don't really know if there is or isn't, but they just assume they are right and close their mind to any possibility of them being wrong.

If thats not close minded I don't know what is.

If atheists were open minded, they would be agnostics.

ramalamafafafa
March 16th, 2009, 09:47 AM
Atheists believe that there is no chance at all of there being a supernatural. They don't really know if there is or isn't, but they just assume they are right and close their mind to any possibility of them being wrong.

If thats not close minded I don't know what is.

If atheists were open minded, they would be agnostics.

There's a difference between open-minded and dumb.

Atheists are able to separate fact and reasonable ideas from bullshit fairy-tales and implausible crocks. It's called "Reality", the religious don't seem to grasp it as well as others.

JohnLennonII
March 16th, 2009, 10:16 AM
Just because you believe that there is no possibility of something doesn't mean you can't entertain discussion on it and be open to logical argumentation to the opposite effect.
I believe wholeheartedly that the Judeo-Christian God does not exist, but I'm willing to entertain the possibility that he does.
I know several athesists that are hardcore atheist, but they listen to other arguments, and if they were totally convinced by logic, they would switch over to the theist side.
Making sweeping generalizations about any group of people is probably unwise in any situation.

ramalamafafafa
March 16th, 2009, 10:16 PM
Just because you believe that there is no possibility of something doesn't mean you can't entertain discussion on it and be open to logical argumentation to the opposite effect.
I believe wholeheartedly that the Judeo-Christian God does not exist, but I'm willing to entertain the possibility that he does.
I know several athesists that are hardcore atheist, but they listen to other arguments, and if they were totally convinced by logic, they would switch over to the theist side.
Making sweeping generalizations about any group of people is probably unwise in any situation.

Umm, i started this fucking thread, didn't i?

freetibet
March 17th, 2009, 11:25 PM
@ramalama
actually you didn't... ghostface did...

Just because you believe that there is no possibility of something doesn't mean you can't entertain discussion on it and be open to logical argumentation to the opposite effect.

Well you can't really be open to the possibility if your world-view is based on assumptions. If an atheist really was open to a logical argument, they would be an agnostic. Agnostics don't say they for sure know that there is no supernatural, because its impossible for anyone to know.

JohnLennonII
March 18th, 2009, 10:13 AM
Ramalama, I was talking more towards freetibet...
Sorry for not specifying?

And freetibet, all worldviews are based on some assumptions.
An agnostic is someone who either doesn't believe God, the nature of God, the existence of God, and/or the existence of absolute truth and knowledge exist or doesn't believe they can be known fully.
That's based on some assumptions too.
Christianity is based on some assumptions, and Christians say that without a doubt there is no possibility whatsoever that the Judeo-Christian God does not exist, and yet you would say that Christians can be open minded?
Christians make absolute claims just like atheists, but you aren't saying that Christians are closed minded, just atheists.

freetibet
March 18th, 2009, 11:33 AM
Christians just assume they found the right religion. Or one of the right religions in my case.

Atheists assume there is nothing supernatural anywhere.

Those are two very different levels of assumption. Now not all Christians are open minded of course, but Christianity doesn't require that you assume every other religion is wrong, atheism does.

JohnLennonII
March 18th, 2009, 02:01 PM
"I am the way the truth and the life, no man comes to the Father but by me." - Jesus
That seems pretty exclusive.

I see what you're saying, though.
I'll have to mull over that for a while.

freetibet
March 18th, 2009, 07:25 PM
well i personally take that to mean that nobody could be one with god except for his sacrifices. Not that you have to accept Jesus exclusively to be be with god.

I guess its open to interpretation though...

TheFreekinCog16
April 6th, 2009, 10:50 PM
SHUT UP TOOL. Im contributing some useful information to the thread. By the way brainwashing is involved in everything you douchebag

I completely agree with you

freetibet
April 7th, 2009, 02:20 AM
Why are all these necro posts so fucking stupid?

Warpurlgis
April 8th, 2009, 12:01 AM
you know what i hate? I hate "atheists" that say they believe in Satan. I lol at them.

drugfeind
April 8th, 2009, 07:35 AM
if the 'god' had the physical form of a human i would charge at it and choke it to death. if it couldnt die i would choke it untill my conscious existence ended. i would try in every possible way to hurt it however i could, and i would never stop.
even if i had a weapon i wouldnt use it, i want to feel god die with my own hands. i want to feel the pulse slowing down and stopping, and then and only then will i be satisfied.

im considerably sure nobody can kill a god. And if you did see a god why would you try and kill it? What a brainless ill-advised moron... u just sound like a phsycho mother fucking panzie. UGH is my effort to any consummation?

Drunkonamission
April 8th, 2009, 09:58 AM
If i ever saw/met "god" then I would just ask him why he never showed us that he/she/it exists. At least if im going to hell, I would want peace of mind.

Kasnia
April 10th, 2009, 05:15 PM
you know what i hate? I hate "atheists" that say they believe in Satan. I lol at them.

If they say they're an atheist that believes in Satan, then they're just an idiot because they obviously don't know what they're talking about.

And Drunkonamission: "God" would use the Bible (or whatever other form of communication/history) and his/her/it's miracles as a sign of existince.

methtownblue
April 10th, 2009, 07:20 PM
An Athiest that says they believe in Satan isn't an Athiest, as they would be believing in a deity.

There are Lavayen Satanists, who only worship Satan as a symbol of the Human instinct instead of an actual being. This might be the Athiests you are talking about.

ramalamafafafa
April 13th, 2009, 09:26 AM
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHA... you guys have no idea what wil happen do you. you wont talk to him. you will sit there. and listen as he lists all your sins, and you will have to explain yourself. and no exuse u can make will get you out of it. unless you have explained that jesus has died for them.. and you cant lie to him either.. wow.. u guys have no idea.. the presence of god wil make you fal on your knees speechless

*EDIT*

sorry i kinda walked away from the subject here ^^. lol anyway. if there was a God, i would say im sorry for my sins and i believed in Jesus and Jesus would say. "I know you" and i would go to heaven.

if any of you tried that crap punching.. or i think i saw spit in his eye. i would like to see you try. he'll throw u straight to hell .. and ull wish u listened to the truth.

from hell you can see heaven . and the people havin parties there. but we cant see you suffer. its mental torture in hell and u have no idea what ur getting into.

Did Christianity really need to appear more idiotic? I hope this dipshit isn't the best you've got....

There is no god. He's just not there. At all. Face it, when an absurd claim is made with no supporting evidence, it's bullshit. Absence Of Proof Is Proof Of Absence.



Wait, why am i attempting to reason with a Christian?

Kasnia
April 13th, 2009, 03:31 PM
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHA... you guys have no idea what wil happen do you. you wont talk to him. you will sit there. and listen as he lists all your sins, and you will have to explain yourself. and no exuse u can make will get you out of it. unless you have explained that jesus has died for them.. and you cant lie to him either.. wow.. u guys have no idea.. the presence of god wil make you fal on your knees speechless

*EDIT*

sorry i kinda walked away from the subject here ^^. lol anyway. if there was a God, i would say im sorry for my sins and i believed in Jesus and Jesus would say. "I know you" and i would go to heaven.

if any of you tried that crap punching.. or i think i saw spit in his eye. i would like to see you try. he'll throw u straight to hell .. and ull wish u listened to the truth.

from hell you can see heaven . and the people havin parties there. but we cant see you suffer. its mental torture in hell and u have no idea what ur getting into.

Have you ever heard of them term: "hypothetical question?" That's the reason that the question was directed towards atheists, and not towards everyone who believes in God. And your post is the exact reason why.

cstrikehero
April 13th, 2009, 04:46 PM
w/ever. idc anymore. u guys dont listen so wats the point. u always find some way not to listen to the truth..

Kasnia
April 13th, 2009, 04:55 PM
w/ever. idc anymore. u guys dont listen so wats the point. u always find some way not to listen to the truth..

-_- Dude. You're not listening. I get what you're saying about how if you died, what you would say to God. But the thing is, the question wasn't directed towards you. The title actually says, "To Atheists." Also, you just took it way too seriously.

And if you're referring to Jesus/God/Christianity when you talk about "the truth," then that's just going to stir up a whole wave of shit.

deathlord888
April 13th, 2009, 07:00 PM
there is more evidence showing god is false then there is that he exists so stfu CSfag

cstrikehero
April 13th, 2009, 10:25 PM
^^ stfu urself deathfag

in case u didnt notice i deleted the post earlier because i realized it didnt belong.

ramalamafafafa
April 14th, 2009, 01:05 AM
there is more evidence showing god is false then there is that he exists so stfu CSfag

Haha!

'Struth.......

freetibet
April 14th, 2009, 06:59 AM
I think your all idiots...

absence of proof is proof of absence? There is more proof that god doesn't exist? God will list all our sins?

seriously... why can't you guys all just accept each others beliefs? Nobody is going to admit your right (assuming you are) if your an ass about it.

TotalAnarchyUK
April 14th, 2009, 07:19 AM
The fact that the bible says so is not proof. I mean, it doesn't even provide references....


Hahahaha references ! oooh top gears on.

freetibet
April 15th, 2009, 05:55 AM
Hahaha, yeah, i'm the idiot....

And there is more proof that god doesn't exist. When nobody has seen, or can provide proof of the existance of a thing (or person), it (or they) does not exist. If you took the case to court, the existance of god would be disproven easily...

You couldn't have made a more useless post, by the way...

Typical ramalama move, correct someone's grammar rather than read the contents of the post. Well you know what, I don't give a shit if I spelled "you're" as "your". I did it on purpose dumbass. I just don't care enough to put type those 2 extra characters. You're just lucky I didn't spell it "yur".

The point of the post is that nobody is going to consider your opinion if you're a jerk to everyone. Something you should pay attention to if you ever want anyone to listen to you.

Of course you'd rather flame people anyway... so in your case it was a useless post.

freetibet
April 16th, 2009, 06:49 AM
not taking the time to type 2 extra characters invalidates my post?

are you high, or just stupid?

tmz
April 17th, 2009, 02:16 AM
lol seppling lol


i dont remember what this thread is about

superflysuperwhite
April 17th, 2009, 09:13 PM
Hahaha, yeah, i'm the idiot....

And there is more proof that god doesn't exist. When nobody has seen, or can provide proof of the existence of a thing (or person), it (or they) does not exist. If you took the case to court, the existence of god would be disproven easily.

The fact that the bible says so is not proof. I mean, it doesn't even provide references....


You couldn't have made a more useless post, by the way...

also "disproven" isn't even a word... fucking moron

AND you forgot to capitalize the "I" in I'm

*the bold is how you really spell it dipshit

TotalAnarchyUK
April 17th, 2009, 09:18 PM
Who really give a fuck about exact grammer?
You 2 need to grow the fuck up.

superflysuperwhite
April 17th, 2009, 09:19 PM
Who really give a fuck about exact grammer?
You 2 need to grow the fuck up.

and you completley missed the point. SEEEEEEEEEEEWWWWAH you need to shut the hell up =D

TotalAnarchyUK
April 17th, 2009, 09:21 PM
and you completley missed the point. SEEEEEEEEEEEWWWWAH you need to shut the hell up =D

Id love to know whatever misguided point your twos posts had

superflysuperwhite
April 17th, 2009, 09:28 PM
well i'd tell you but... well there are two reasons why i'm not going to, but hey if you can figure them out then i'll be happy to let you in the know.... though really if you figure out one of the reasons there's a chance you'll figure the whole thing out by yourself.. doubtfull but hey, I've seen crazier shit happen.


p.s. you used misguided completely out of context xP

TotalAnarchyUK
April 18th, 2009, 01:21 PM
well i'd tell you but... well there are two reasons why i'm not going to, but hey if you can figure them out then i'll be happy to let you in the know.... though really if you figure out one of the reasons there's a chance you'll figure the whole thing out by yourself.. doubtfull but hey, I've seen crazier shit happen.


p.s. you used misguided completely out of context xP

So what your basically saying is that you didnt have a point, you were just bieng childish..

superflysuperwhite
April 18th, 2009, 01:23 PM
nope... got to Fap Fap Fap.. and then maybe you will finally get it... you dipshit.. i mean MY GOD is it that hard to see what i was doing? are you that retardedly blind that you.... w/e the two points i was talking about are

1. it's none of your buisness
and 2 it's bitterly fucking obvious.

TotalAnarchyUK
April 18th, 2009, 01:33 PM
nope... got to Fap Fap Fap.. and then maybe you will finally get it... you dipshit.. i mean MY GOD is it that hard to see what i was doing? are you that retardedly blind that you.... w/e the two points i was talking about are

1. it's none of your buisness
and 2 it's bitterly fucking obvious.

It was obvious to you, because you were doing it.

superflysuperwhite
April 18th, 2009, 01:36 PM
deathlord picked up on it quite easily in the other thread.... and i didn't even have to tell him something was going on.

Nynoez
April 19th, 2009, 04:37 PM
id ask him if he watches me pee

drugfeind
April 19th, 2009, 11:49 PM
i have a hard pee pee

ZeroFoe
April 20th, 2009, 03:08 AM
Lets say you died and there was a god, what would you say to him?

Oh wow. Wooooow. My bad. We cool though, right?


xD

Devi1_Worship3r
April 20th, 2009, 06:34 PM
Lets say you died and there was a god, what would you say to him?

I'd have them explain how the fuck Noah and the ark worked, and how the entire human populous started with only 2 people (being Adam and Eve)
Have them explain disease, poverty, depression, and all the horrible things that are involved with life.

Fuck it, God is Dead

freetibet
April 20th, 2009, 09:45 PM
I'd have them explain how the fuck Noah and the ark worked, and how the entire human populous started with only 2 people (being Adam and Eve)
Have them explain disease, poverty, depression, and all the horrible things that are involved with life.

Fuck it, God is Dead

What if it wasn't the abrahamic god?

superflysuperwhite
April 21st, 2009, 10:33 AM
What if it wasn't the abrahamic god?


is that a trick question?

freetibet
April 22nd, 2009, 01:13 AM
no.....

why?

superflysuperwhite
April 22nd, 2009, 01:17 AM
no.....

why?

it's the same "god"

freetibet
April 22nd, 2009, 03:53 AM
it's the same "god"

What about the Zoroastrian God? The bahai God? The sikh God?

Those are all different from the abrahamic God

superflysuperwhite
April 22nd, 2009, 09:08 AM
What about the Zoroastrian God? The bahai God? The sikh God?

Those are all different from the abrahamic God

yeah but with adam and eve comments he is obviously refering to the abrahamic one

Fraxinus
April 23rd, 2009, 11:47 PM
"Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolicly eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master so he can remove an evil force in your soul that is present because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magic tree."

Demotivation: For the win!

superflysuperwhite
April 24th, 2009, 12:18 AM
yeah..... because none of us have seen that meme before.

rU_
April 24th, 2009, 12:23 AM
id ask him if he watches me pee

ya, he masterbates to the image of u peeing

freetibet
April 24th, 2009, 02:48 AM
yeah but with adam and eve comments he is obviously refering to the abrahamic one

ya... i agree...

I was saying he should talk about a universal god not the abrahamic one. Since only the abrahamic one talks about adam and eve, noah, etc.

doesn't really matter though cuz it looks like the guy left ACb

toroidlover
April 30th, 2009, 10:55 PM
i like the muffins idea

im an athiest

but if i were there id look up my eyes would get huge then, then and there i take a huge shit and run

ItsAPoorlyKeptSecret
May 1st, 2009, 01:19 AM
Lets say you died and there was a god, what would you say to him?

I would probably not set in right awy whats goin on, I'm pretty slow like that. When I realize who it is precense I'm in and wahts goin on, I'd be think to myself, "Well, alright finally some answers."

I'd then relive my life in my head and stubbornlly give the bastard the cold shoulder. Probably start to silently cry out of anger. Not cause I'm dead, he'll kno why. They when I finally get control over myself, stare at him in an uncomfortable silence. Swallow my pride and say... "Now what?"

Camper
May 7th, 2009, 06:08 PM
Call him an asshole, and say That's where the Sim's game's got the idea from.

Akhyll
May 8th, 2009, 06:27 PM
I think I try to kick his godly ass. Matter of facts god is dead a long time ago.

malachite
May 18th, 2009, 09:52 PM
Cant say i would say anything beings i normally just ignore those i don't respect.

Deetinator
May 19th, 2009, 06:13 PM
Did Christianity really need to appear more idiotic? I hope this dipshit isn't the best you've got....

There is no god. He's just not there. At all. Face it, when an absurd claim is made with no supporting evidence, it's bullshit. Absence Of Proof Is Proof Of Absence.



Wait, why am i attempting to reason with a Christian?

You call that reason? Absence of proof is proof of absence. You can not honestly be serious.

This isn't even about logic, but the condition of your heart.

"Oooh, Christian talking about logic, too much! HAHAHA"

Save the immaturity, I already said it for y'all.


This goes out to everyone here:

All I see with these reactions, no matter from what side they are approaching from, it isn't logic. These are your hearts. Pride, the original, and truly, the only sin, if you think about it, is rampant. We have all screwed up, but who here is actually going to bow down and apologize for it? Is anyone going to swallow their pride?

Forget arguments, forget our finite logic for a second, and look at the heart. That empty feeling, like a bucket with a hole in it. You fill it with worldly things, violence, power, sex, drugs, pride. These vain pursuits. But you know that it's all empty. It didn't have to be this way. Maybe, you were hurt. And then you hurt others. Even so, you could have made the right decision. You could have not hurt that person. But you did. You chose yourself over love. You screwed up. I screwed up. I try to make it right, but never really can. I opened the door, and now it can't close again.

Then along came the door maker, who rips that thing apart, beats anything in the way, and like the loving Father he is, offers you his hand. It's all up to you now, just take it. Swallow your pride, as I've noticed only one person has done.

But really...

If your heart really yearns for more, take a look. It's a pretty good....yeah, you'll enjoy it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cyheJ480LYA

Wolkkkk
May 29th, 2009, 06:20 PM
If god had the time to meet every shithead on this planet ? I would say:"Have a lot of time on your hands huh?"

Rolyat1331
June 4th, 2009, 10:00 PM
If I met god I'd know I was in Hell.

divinerssage
June 7th, 2009, 04:31 AM
id say something along the lines of :your a fag

WetFlannel
June 7th, 2009, 11:14 AM
Lets say you died and there was a god, what would you say to him?

This is stolen but i'd say
"Not enough evidence mate...."

Deetinator
June 7th, 2009, 01:54 PM
How much is enough?



And btw ramalama, do you really need to resort to such hate instead of arguments? Because that's all we are seeing.

VIOLENTLY humble
June 7th, 2009, 03:23 PM
"Oh........SHIT! oh shit oh shit oh---
um




HEEEEYYY-y-y-y!!!
'Sup, God??? I KNEW you'd be here!
Naw naw, sme Raymond!!! Ya member???? we went to Chemawa MIDDLE school together, man!!!

----Naw? oh...."

WetFlannel
June 7th, 2009, 04:04 PM
^^ Enough evidence so that we wouldn't be having a discussion over god's existance, we would all beleive because it is obvious and that sound scientific theories do not stand in the way.

Basically evidence that means that i would have spent the day in church today, instead of reading Dawkins.

I mean why would God not want us to beleive?




And btw ramalama, do you really need to resort to such hate instead of arguments? Because that's all we are seeing.
^ I second this by the way, its not doing anyone any favours

VIOLENTLY humble
June 7th, 2009, 04:09 PM
SHUT UP TOOL. Im contributing some useful information to the thread. By the way brainwashing is involved in everything you douchebag

Don't you have like, a Protest or some shit to stink up, or is it still mom's apt? God Damn You.

rimmellondon27
June 8th, 2009, 08:42 AM
i would throw my hands in the air and say send me down now cuz its too fuckin cold up here u cold motherfucker!!!

Deetinator
June 8th, 2009, 07:00 PM
^^ Enough evidence so that we wouldn't be having a discussion over god's existance, we would all beleive because it is obvious and that sound scientific theories do not stand in the way.

Basically evidence that means that i would have spent the day in church today, instead of reading Dawkins.

I mean why would God not want us to beleive?

There are arguments that I could make, but if God really exists and wants us to love him, then what's love if it's based on theories and not on a relationship?

Warpurlgis
June 8th, 2009, 07:11 PM
My thought on Atheism is a person who is a depressed person who's to pussy to jump. Something didn't go their way so they give up all belief. In some instances they just take that the Bible is the complete way Christians believe things went. I believe in evolution and God. You almost have to be ignorant not to believe in evolution. I believe in God but I don't believe the Bible 100% because of the alterations through time.

Deetinator
June 8th, 2009, 09:32 PM
How do you decide what you believe?

Wolkkkk
June 15th, 2009, 01:38 PM
And again: No more gods! no more gods! Man is King, Man is God! -- But the great Faith is Love! - Arthur Rimbaud

freetibet
June 15th, 2009, 04:56 PM
I really don't understand why some people feel so threatened by spirituality.

what's wrong with a little bit of positive energy?

Akhyll
June 15th, 2009, 05:09 PM
Ok for the positive energy, good vibration or else, but for mr religion is just fairy tale. C'mon !! A powerful entity who see, know and hear everything ? :/

TotalAnarchyUK
June 15th, 2009, 05:10 PM
Nothing wrong with any positive energy. Its that religion could be seen to do more harm then good.

freetibet
June 15th, 2009, 05:18 PM
well ya people have used church organizations to tell people what to do.

But i don't see how telling the universe (or god) what you want out of life could ever be bad.

Wolkkkk
June 15th, 2009, 05:19 PM
Yup. Positive energy is just great. Just don`t try to make me buy bull. Get it? Buy bull. =)

TotalAnarchyUK
June 15th, 2009, 05:23 PM
well ya people have used church organizations to tell people what to do.

But i don't see how telling the universe (or god) what you want out of life could ever be bad.

Well talking to something that doesnt exist would to me constitute a mental disorder.

freetibet
June 16th, 2009, 09:45 AM
so you don't think the universe exists?

haha come on. Even if you don't believe in god i'm sure you believe in energy and that a positive attitude can help you get through a lot in life.

Wolkkkk
June 16th, 2009, 10:00 AM
Good energry and bad energy. Talking to the universe. Universe wont hear you. Its basicly this black utter darkness all around with few little spots of light.
If you talk in your room, you are most likely talking to your wall.
I try to look beyond good and bad. The line in between is kind of hard to find. Afcourse if you mean that not being a douchebag to people wont make your shit stink more than others then you are propably right.
I try to be positive in every life situation.
But morals are very hard for me to comprehend. For example i dont know what is morally worse - dropping a bomb on a childrens hospital or beheading a person or two.

TotalAnarchyUK
June 16th, 2009, 10:05 AM
so you don't think the universe exists?

haha come on. Even if you don't believe in god i'm sure you believe in energy and that a positive attitude can help you get through a lot in life.

A positive attitude does indeed help. But this comes from yourself in the end. God does not give you it.

ramalamafafafa
June 16th, 2009, 10:36 AM
Haaa! Gotta love Freetibet's posts:

"It's all about positive energy, and invisible hands, and voices in my head..."

rimmellondon27
June 16th, 2009, 11:17 AM
anyway honestly theres got to be more than whats said about "GOD" and supposedly he dont want you to know all the stuff cuz he wants to see if youll fuck up and then he gets to burn your soul or what ever he sets us up to fail and its like were his puppets or something

Akhyll
June 16th, 2009, 04:49 PM
According to belivers, he know that you'll gonna fuckup.

Anthony477
July 5th, 2009, 08:32 PM
"Aw shit, sorry about all the jacking off"

Count Chocula
July 5th, 2009, 08:38 PM
"Aw shit, sorry about all the jacking off"
This post just illustrates how ridiculous the bible is. It claims an all knowing, omnipotent, omnibenevolent and eternal creator of the universe cares what you eat, who you fuck, and what you do on a Saturday.

LordSkweegie
July 5th, 2009, 09:14 PM
jesus is a jew. moses was his bitch. they were the worlds first gay couple yay, gay pride in christianity. fuck off christ fallowers, you were naive enough to believe in lies for 1500 years, why must you continue to preach lies about perseus, because thats where all the bullshit began...with the romans.

empires control the minds of slaves with religions, and we here aren't slaves, so there really is no need for religions.

Orthodox Fanatic
July 7th, 2009, 04:04 PM
Atheists are people who think to "think" logic but there are just lost nothing else.
They need help,

TotalAnarchyUK
July 7th, 2009, 06:41 PM
Athiesm and agnosticism is on the rise almost universally across the globe.

freetibet
July 8th, 2009, 02:01 AM
well so is mormonism.

That doesn't mean its right though does it?

Count Chocula
July 8th, 2009, 02:03 AM
Atheists don't annoy you by knocking at your door 8 AM on saturday. I almost became a Jehovah's Witness just to shut those idiots up.

freetibet
July 8th, 2009, 02:20 AM
haha but after you converted they would probably bug you more with church activities

Wolkkkk
July 8th, 2009, 04:03 AM
Atheists are people who think to "think" logic but there are just lost nothing else.
They need help,

Religious/faitfull people think to "think" they are right about all the babble they spute but they are just lost nothing else.
They need help.

Wolkkkk
July 8th, 2009, 04:06 AM
Atheists don't annoy you by knocking at your door 8 AM on saturday. I almost became a Jehovah's Witness just to shut those idiots up.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7dW-bt_1LzY

=)))

Count Chocula
July 8th, 2009, 04:16 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lo5dgW6HX9o

TotalAnarchyUK
July 8th, 2009, 08:21 AM
Chocula is that from orgazmo?

Dont get mormans knocking round my end. Alot of JW though. Annoying fuckers!

Count Chocula
July 8th, 2009, 12:55 PM
Yes. Elder Young is Trey Parker.

LordSkweegie
July 9th, 2009, 03:43 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svfxSscxh8o

mormons are stupid.

Rendezvous
July 9th, 2009, 10:13 PM
I'd probably just laugh at myself. I dunno.

Archae
July 10th, 2009, 05:47 AM
"So. . .you did it for the lulz, eh?"

VenomUnleashed
August 6th, 2009, 09:21 AM
Lets say you died and there was a god, what would you say to him?
i would tell him nothing more than,

"you really suck at your job."

crazylatvian
August 6th, 2009, 03:01 PM
ok people here is some knowledge.

Brainwashing is not new. It goes back to the dawn of civilization. Adam and Eve were both brainwashed by the serpent in the Garden of Eden. They succumbed very easily. They believed a lie that conflicted with the truth previously given to them. Such is the nature of humans.

Atheism (the denial of God) is a modern human belief. Artifacts in ancient burial sites reveal that humans have always believed in a life after death and a Creator God. Humans have a natural belief in God. Brainwashing by books, schools and the major media is required to make a human atheistic.

Electrical engineers faithfully employ laws concerning the flow of electricity and electromagnetic fields. Structural engineers apply laws concerning the stress and strain of materials in the design of giant structures. Then something weird happened. Charles Darwin proposed the Theory of Evolution that had no basis in fact whatsoever. It could not be proven and violated observations in nature on every turn, but it was accepted by many people. The Theory of Evolution was born out of Darwin's self brainwashing.

brainwashing crept into the fields of astronomy, astrophysics and cosmology. Astronomer Percival Lowell was brainwashed by Giovanni Schiaparelli, who was director of the Milan Observatory and an esteemed Italian astronomer, into believing there was life on Mars. Schiaparelli said there was a network of canals built by the inhabitants crisscrossing the planet. Lowell moved to Flagstaff, AZ in 1894 to study Mars using the large telescope there. He saw the canals also, but we know today they never existed. Schiaparelli brainwashed himself as well as Lowell. Part of this brainwashing has been cleansed from science, but many scientists still expect to find life on Mars.

Another monumental stumble occurred in science when Dr. Edwin Hubble concluded that the light coming from distant galaxies was shifted to the red spectrum because the galaxies were all moving away from earth at an accelerating rate. Tracing the direction and velocity of the galaxies produced the concept that the cosmos existed at a point in the finite past. Boom - the Big Bang Theory was born. Dr. Hubble should have given it more thought. The most likely possible cause for the red shift of light is the slowing of the speed of the light, not the acceleration of the distant galaxies. The massive brainwashing was off and running. Astronomers, astrophysicists and cosmologists could now give a theory for the creation of the cosmos that excluded Intelligent design. It didn't matter that the theory violated many of the existing laws of science. Both were accepted by the brainwashed individuals.

Children today are brainwashed with preschool cartoons into believing the bogus Theory of Evolution and Big Bang Theory. The elementary school system continues to refine the brainwashing. The poor children are helpless at rejecting these unproven theories. They grow up becoming brainwashed doctors of philosophy that teach the same nonsense to their students.

your wrong in so many ways. first, people turned -and still do turn- to religion and used it to answer anything they couldnt figure out for themselves. "its all part of gods plan" is something to say when you cant think of anything else. second, no proof to back up evolution?! then how come we find skeletons of primitive humans that point to evolution? theres no proof for religion. How was the world created? god made it. how do you know? because it says so in the bible. How do you know its not just a load of shit? because its the bible. thats not an answer. how do you know theres a god? because he revealed himself to me (or any other explanation). then why havent he revealed himself to all the atheists or people of other religions? uuuuuuuuuuuuuuhhhhhhh.
what is wrong with you?

hdeuce
August 6th, 2009, 04:03 PM
your wrong in so many ways. first, people turned -and still do turn- to religion and used it to answer anything they couldnt figure out for themselves. "its all part of gods plan" is something to say when you cant think of anything else. second, no proof to back up evolution?! then how come we find skeletons of primitive humans that point to evolution? theres no proof for religion. How was the world created? god made it. how do you know? because it says so in the bible. How do you know its not just a load of shit? because its the bible. thats not an answer. how do you know theres a god? because he revealed himself to me (or any other explanation). then why havent he revealed himself to all the atheists or people of other religions? uuuuuuuuuuuuuuhhhhhhh.
what is wrong with you?

I read this quote somewhere on the forum and immediately memorized it.

Socrates said it.

If god is willing but not able to end evil
then he is not omnipotent

If he is able but not willing
He is malevolent

If he is both able and willing
then whence cometh evil?

If he is neither
Then why call him god?

(not exactly right but you get the point)

EmbrExcell
August 6th, 2009, 05:18 PM
I Put that up.

Damn if I died and met god, I would just laugh.. It would be one of those crazy half screaming laughs... I'm pretty sure my sanity would break right there.

whateverdude
August 7th, 2009, 03:14 AM
I'd say I lead a very good and moral life by choice and saw no proof of a god on an earth filled with such evil, so why would a murderer be more deserving of a good afterlife with just a last minute deathbed "Save me Jebus," when that's only a cheap cop out said out of fear of punishment.

Does an intelligent god choose someone's worth of the afterlife based on a life of good deeds or just one that went through the motions as insurance for the afterlife? If it were me I'd choose a lifetime of good deeds cause who's to say who is right? Is it Buddhists? Jews? Muslims? Christians? (And to what end, Methodist, Episcopalians, Snake Handlers, Baptists)? Maybe South Park is right and it was Mormon's all along. If so everyone who came before Joseph Smith was screwed, even the early Christians. Does this mean heaven was empty condo lot full of vacant property and for sale signs until your particular flavor of religion? Another point is why recruit people into your faith if they're only competition for heaven. Ask almost any religious person if heaven has an unlimited membership and they'll say no, only a select few. So why decrease your risk of getting into it. It's like buying everyone a raffle ticket at a church fundraiser, you only decrease your odds of winning that lovely cake and the only benefit is to fill the coffers of that church. Bingo church is a business. A business that sells lies and makes you believe so much into it's scheme that you'll gladly donate your hard earned money and hell even get to write it off as a tax deduction. How convenient.

And how about this one. Is it right for a child to die because their parents forced religious beliefs on their kid that the kid don't receive proper medical care?

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32141869/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts/

We have enough problems with religious zealots in the world. Why add to it?

Historically we have always reduced our gods as we understand the world. In the beginning of mankind, which was scientifically proven to be more than 6000 years ago, everything was controlled by a god or spirit. Then came the bronze age less gods but more powerful. Zeus, Hera, Ares, you know the ones you see on Hercules and Xena. Then of course Xena kills all the olympian gods. What's left an omnipotent god that doesn't do all that much for his worshippers, that's both jealous and loving, petty and somehow deep, gives different rules to different tribes. No shrimp, and pork, but you can have cheese and hamburgers but not cheeseburgers for the Jews. Muslims can't have pork but can have lots of wives. Christians can eat almost anything but not meat on fridays during certain times of the year. But this god forgot all about asia so they don't really count. Doesn't sound like a very coherent god to me.

Atheists just go one further.

warderohell
August 18th, 2009, 11:09 AM
i have to give a different view. as i've seen only christian minded people have posted. I am a follower of asatru or Norse paganism. When i saw my god known as the valfather or Woden or oden, i would shit my pants. i would be proud to stand in front of him and say my children will follow and through us you are greater. only by allowing a god to lead or direct us do we give them power and thus my god is truly great. if any christian fucks have a problem with it we can decide the outcome the old fashion way. by me cutting your heart out and offering it to my god and you praying for my "eternal soul" or some shit. seems crazy to most i know but i tried to live the life of the "white god" but his endless prattling about peace and forgiveness made me sick. I would rather live my life fighting than than praying that this holier than thou asshole will have "mercy" on my soul cuz i sucked his ass my entire life.

TheBomba
August 18th, 2009, 11:44 AM
Id say: Any shrooms in heaven?

Count Chocula
August 18th, 2009, 12:27 PM
i have to give a different view. as i've seen only christian minded people have posted. I am a follower of asatru or Norse paganism. When i saw my god known as the valfather or Woden or oden, i would shit my pants. i would be proud to stand in front of him and say my children will follow and through us you are greater. only by allowing a god to lead or direct us do we give them power and thus my god is truly great. if any christian fucks have a problem with it we can decide the outcome the old fashion way. by me cutting your heart out and offering it to my god and you praying for my "eternal soul" or some shit. seems crazy to most i know but i tried to live the life of the "white god" but his endless prattling about peace and forgiveness made me sick. I would rather live my life fighting than than praying that this holier than thou asshole will have "mercy" on my soul cuz i sucked his ass my entire life.
Cool story, bro.

warderohell
August 18th, 2009, 12:51 PM
say what you mean, live what you say and live life to the max. how i am what i do

Granz
August 26th, 2009, 01:28 AM
I'd probably ask god why he was so "wishy-Washy" in his influence on man. And why he allowed his own creations to ruin his other creations.

It's strange; that hell thing. It's like saying "I will punish you(send you to hell) if you do not eat that cookie.(be a good person)" I honestly don't see why people wouldn't want to kind and fair to one another. It's very gratifying.

PhillysTerrorist
October 5th, 2009, 05:07 PM
What di u ever do for me? Why did u never help? Even when i believed in u, u never did shit for me! Send me 2 hell where i will feel welcome

yummycars321
October 5th, 2009, 09:45 PM
that is, if hell exists *)

skittleskitten
October 6th, 2009, 12:47 AM
send ur self, im tired, fucking pansy

TheBomba
October 10th, 2009, 11:17 AM
Hi. Got weed?

drugfeind
October 11th, 2009, 08:31 AM
i got creed but no weed :(

skittleskitten
October 14th, 2009, 10:37 PM
I was an atheist, first of all... I wouldn't speak until given permission too, then if he did let me speak freely or ask a question id say, why did he put obnoxious faggots in the world? and now that I'm dead whats some cool shit he can hook me up with

ravenscar
October 15th, 2009, 04:35 AM
well, from what my grams told me,soppusodly you become some angel like thing and pour rain for the earth. i think thats crock and she knows it

KILLplay
October 15th, 2009, 03:34 PM
Lets say you died and there was a god, what would you say to him?

I would pull on his beard and be like "It's fake! He's not even the real god!" Then I would get kicked out of the mall for accosting Santa, and be told to lay off the shrooms.

nocturnezero
October 17th, 2009, 09:59 PM
I'd reprimand him for all the horrible things he'd done to and for the human race, screaming loudly with excessive offensive slurs and comparisons to the Holocaust before asking him for some help with my taxes.

EmbrExcell
October 17th, 2009, 10:21 PM
Trick question. I can't die.

skittleskitten
October 17th, 2009, 10:30 PM
if u cud get ur dick sucked by any one person who wut it be... id do some chick in high school that was stuck up and wuda never gave me play cuz i didnt roll with the popular crowd, wasnt like 30 yrs old? and wasnt 100% white, or a black sports star=o,

come suck some dick bitches, oh and... if I really met God and he let me speak to him, i'd cry like a teeny bopper girl being visited by justin t. on Christmas and have no idea what i'd really say, I'd probably want it to be fresh and unspoiled by any corruption of the mind, kind of like when you make a wish don't tell anyone, because you want it to be special <3

me_likey_fire
October 18th, 2009, 04:32 PM
"Um...shit...wow, guess this explains a lot of things dude. One question though...why are most of your followers hypocritical pricks or brainwashing victims? Also, your Bible's a little stale. Except for the bit where you turn Jesus into a zombie, genius dude."

And then, hopefully I'd get a chance to pass a doob with the big cheese.

EmbrExcell
October 18th, 2009, 11:18 PM
"Um...shit...wow, guess this explains a lot of things dude. One question though...why are most of your followers hypocritical pricks or brainwashing victims? Also, your Bible's a little stale. Except for the bit where you turn Jesus into a zombie, genius dude."

And then, hopefully I'd get a chance to pass a doob with the big cheese.

But in heaven, you're always high.

me_likey_fire
October 21st, 2009, 02:53 PM
lololol

Surely, part of the fun of smoking that shit is the art of rolling...

Oh, and sorry for possibly sending this thread off topic XD