Kurt Cobain Was Murdered

[pyrex]

Kurt Cobain supposedly commit suicide by shooting himself in the side of the head with a shotgun after barricading himself into the room. Surely at that close range part of his head or his entire head would have blown to pieces. And also if he had overdosed x2 the recommended limit -- how the fuck could he be able to shoot himself.

The 'suicide note'. The note was a suicide note. It was a letter to his fans telling them that he was going to quit the music business. And the last part was to Courtney his wife about the divorce.

My theory is that Kurt Cobain knew someone was after him and so he purchased the shotgun as a weapon of self defense. He then barricaded himself into the room and waited for them to come. Whilst waiting he over-dosed on heroin and then the killers came and poorly staged his suicide.

Why would anybody want him dead? He was leaving the music business and therefore losing a lot of people a lot of money. His wife would be losing out the most since he was getting a divorce.

Kurt Cobain was fucking murdered and the case should be re-opened.

[Pactum]

no no.. It was just a bunch of pissed off muslims not the government... oh now wait that was 9/11.
Ah conspiracies, they're all the same. The slightest little invdescrepency and people's imaginations will spontaneously combust!

It's all a bunch of bull, have you seen autopsy reports? The tox screen? The dead body? Do you know the exact model of the shotgun? Was it sawed off?

If you can answer all of those questions then maybe i'll believe you.

[pyrex]

Have I seen the autopsy reports? No have I read detailed summaries of them ?Yes
Why would I need to see the dead body if I've seen a summary of the autopsy report?
The shotgun was a half barrel loaded with three shells.

If you want all the details go to cobaincase.com

[Pactum]

detailed reports.... from the coroner? or some conspirer sitting behind his/her computer.

i ain't goin to that website, probably gunna install a keylogger or some shit.

[pyrex]

from a retired police investigator

[Pactum]

from a retired police investigator

I'm basing this following off the assumption that all your info is from the internet, am i correct?

That's the problem with the internet, websites will make "claims" saying that (in your case) a "retired police investigator" said this. But you don't have any actual proof, basically you have to "trust" the writer of his "claim"
Usually these thought up by the author to get more views, and to get his side of the story out there.

On the other hand, if a certain website offers undeniable proof, such as a signed piece of paper from the local police department, or an official document .... Then fine is legit, you can't disprove it.

Then there's human error, paperwork could have been lost or misplaced. The list just goes on.

So basically what I'm trying to say is that "this guy said this" evidence isn't good enough, you need REAL documents, REAL witness accounts ... REAL hard evidence.

[pyrex]

if you'd visited the website you'd know that all the police documents are on it.

[pyrex]

And another thing---there was a guy who said that Courtney Love paid him 10,000 bucks to kill Cobain and something like a week later he was found dead. You can find him confessing that on an old news report on Youtube.

[superflysuperwhite]

i think he killed himself.. but either way i dont care, im glad he's dead.. i fucking hate nirvana and kurt cobain. "did you get the message that he died, kurt codain will not be crusified!"

heres my thing everyone said that theres no way he could have injected himself with 2x or three depending whos telling the story, put it all back in the case then shot himself.... well that would make perfect sense if.. you kow the only way to take heroin was to shoot it up.

buuut if you snort it.. theres a 2-10 minute window before you are hit with the effects. now most people who are heroin addict are sure to know the differences in takeing it. just like anyone who take marijuana knows that eating it is different then smokeing it (well atleast i would hope they new that.)

now 2-10 minutes is enough time to write a quick letter (if he did after he took it) and then shoot yourself in the head.


and as for a shotgun blast to the head takeing it completly off. not true at all, people try and kill themselves with shotguns all the time and people get shot with shotguns in the head all the time.. 1) not everyone dies 2) not all shot guns do that much damage especially depending on the guage, wheather or not its a slug or shot, and how far it is. a close shot wont do as much as a somewhat far shot because the shot doesnt have time to spread out.

[pyrex]

Why do you hate Kurt Cobain so much that your glad he's dead?
If he were going to commit suicide why would he have the gun fully loaded with three shells?
Doesn't heroin come in liquid form when your injecting it? You wouldn't snort liquid.

[Pactum]

Thank you superfly.

If he were going to commit suicide why would he have the gun fully loaded with three shells?
One of the reasons for gun possessions is self defense, yes? so what is the point of having a gun to DEFEND yourself, if it's not loaded at all times?

[pyrex]

Ah, so your agreeing that the weapon was purchased for self-defense and not suicide then.

[Pactum]

It's a possibility that he bought it for self defense, but never used it.
One day poor ol' kurt was sad and lonely "oh looky here! There's a shotgun in my closet"
BOOM!
No more Kurt.

[pyrex]

Umm no.
He bought the shotgun a week before he died.
Kurt was a gun fanatic he had plenty of guns, surely if he wanted to commit suicide he'd just use one of those rather that a fully loaded shotgun intended for self-defense.

[Pactum]

Maybe he wanted to go out with a louder, more dispersed bang.... hahahahah

[pyrex]

Yeah whatever.
He was clearly murdered.

[Pactum]

uh huh, you keep telling yourself that.
Maybe you'll get murdered too!

[pyrex]

uh huh, you keep telling yourself that.
Maybe you'll get murdered too!

I'd prefer more constructive comments..

[superflysuperwhite]

Why do you hate Kurt Cobain so much that your glad he's dead?
If he were going to commit suicide why would he have the gun fully loaded with three shells?
Doesn't heroin come in liquid form when your injecting it? You wouldn't snort liquid.

because kurt cobain single handedly raped the music industry and left a bloody gapeing whole for every self loathing fuck to make shitty dreery grungey shit.

granted there are a few grunge bands i like but very few. he baisically ruined metal, and set ther stage for emo.

all his song sound the same and are all about how life pretty much sucks. i remeber the first time i listened to a whole nivana cd.. i was like "wow... thats utter shit"

If one shell doesnt do it, well then you have two more, like a said, just because you shoot yourself with a shotgun doesnt mean you are gong to die on the first shot. some kid shot himself three times in the face with one.. still alive.

and as for the heroin, it comes as a powder, you then add a bit of water, mix and heat

[Pactum]

^^ The pretty much sums it up.

Kurt Cobain = Suicide.

CASE CLOSED (For the second time)

[Ghostfacekiller]

^^ The pretty much sums it up.

Kurt Cobain = Suicide.

CASE CLOSED (For the second time)
Thank you so much Pactum, you added so much to this thread

[pyrex]

because kurt cobain single handedly raped the music industry and left a bloody gapeing whole for every self loathing fuck to make shitty dreery grungey shit.

granted there are a few grunge bands i like but very few. he baisically ruined metal, and set ther stage for emo.

all his song sound the same and are all about how life pretty much sucks. i remeber the first time i listened to a whole nivana cd.. i was like "wow... thats utter shit"

If one shell doesnt do it, well then you have two more, like a said, just because you shoot yourself with a shotgun doesnt mean you are gong to die

This thread isn't about your opinion on nirvana.
I just looked now--Cobain injected himself with heroin, he didn't snort or swallow it--so there was no way he could have shot himself. As i said before, why would he buy a shotgun instead of using one of the guns hes already got?

[Pactum]

Thank you so much Pactum, you added so much to this thread

You are very welcome, I'm glad you appreciate my contribution.

[Phoenix Fire]

uh huh, you keep telling yourself that.
Maybe you'll get murdered too!

^ I like his idea .

[Tyman]

I don't care if he was murdered of if he killed himself, i just miss his music

[Phoenix Fire]

shit music .

[Tyman]

I'm into better stuff now, and i also mourn the loss of Dimebag. I listened to Kurt's music when i was young. I listen to metal now.

[Phoenix Fire]

shit .

[Pactum]

This thread isn't about your opinion on nirvana.
I just looked now--Cobain injected himself with heroin, he didn't snort or swallow it--so there was no way he could have shot himself. As i said before, why would he buy a shotgun instead of using one of the guns hes already got?

like i said. BIGGER, LOUDER, more DISPERSED bang

[pyrex]

That's a load of bullshit and like i said, he injected himself with x2 overdose of heroin so there was no way he could have shot himself. Surely the shotgun he purchased was a fucking powerful one guaranteed to have a 1 shot kill. So why would he fully load it with 3 shells?

[a2thae]

I think the guy dick cheney shot in the fucking head with a shot gun can attest to not having his head blown off. I think he shot him with rocksalt or birdshot or something though

Also, since we are talking about this who believes tupac is still alive? I think he WAS still alive, and faked his death, but has since died. From oding or somethin

[Pactum]

tupac is not quite on topic... but i think he was dead the whole time.

We still gotta change pyrex's mind, stop him from believing into this conspiracy crap. Cuz conspiracies are for retards. Are you a retard pyrex?

[pyrex]

Look, this is the only thing. I too think conspiracies are a load of bull. But Kurt Cobain was clearly murdered.

[Pactum]

no

he

was

not

[superflysuperwhite]

This thread isn't about your opinion on nirvana.
I just looked now--Cobain injected himself with heroin, he didn't snort or swallow it--so there was no way he could have shot himself. As i said before, why would he buy a shotgun instead of using one of the guns hes already got?

you asked me why i hated him.. i told you.. soooo how about you not be a little ass.


also he could have shot up a little, then snorted the rest.

well also like you said before, he liked guns, doesnt mean he bought it to kill himself, he could have just used that one cowincedently

[pyrex]

you asked me why i hated him.. i told you.. soooo how about you not be a little ass.


also he could have shot up a little, then snorted the rest.

well also like you said before, he liked guns, doesnt mean he bought it to kill himself, he could have just used that one cowincedently

I was expecting just a sentence about why you hated him not a paragraph.
He could have but according to the autopsy reports--he didn't.
That's bollocks and you know it.
Learn to spell. It's coincidentally not cowincedently .

[superflysuperwhite]

a sentence wouldnt have explained why.

god forbid i spell one word wrong (im sure you knew it right off the top of your head)

not at all, new gun, why not get use out of it. if he had so many guns why would he go out of his way to buy a shotgun for self defence; most people would prefer a pistol.

[pyrex]

a sentence wouldnt have explained why.

god forbid i spell one word wrong (im sure you knew it right off the top of your head)

not at all, new gun, why not get use out of it. if he had so many guns why would he go out of his way to buy a shotgun for self defence; most people would prefer a pistol.

Oh OK, just seemed like you were ranting.
A shotgun would be much more useful for self defense. It's more powerful, can hit multiple enemies. And also-- why would he barricade himself in if he wasn't defending himself?

[superflysuperwhite]

have uou ever been suicidle? you do some crazy shit.

also if he didnt die on the first shot, and someone happened to be in the house, they could come in and stop him, etc.

but yes he could have been trying to defend himself.. and then just said fuck it

[charlee]

wow, kurt cobain, was gonna die anyway. he made good music, even tho it led to all them emo bastards that we hate, bottom line, what the fuck does it matter now. i think he did himself in, i dont think his music was shitty, maybe on the pessimistic side but what the hell life does suck.

and if he barricaded himself in its probly cuz he was gonna do it, and he didnt want anyone fuckin with him while he was doin it.

[bangs gravel on keyboard] Case Closed

[pyrex]

But that's the thing you see. At that point of his life he was quite happy. He wasn't suicidal at all.

--that was to superfly

[pyrex]

wow, kurt cobain, was gonna die anyway. he made good music, even tho it led to all them emo bastards that we hate, bottom line, what the fuck does it matter now. i think he did himself in, i dont think his music was shitty, maybe on the pessimistic side but what the hell life does suck.

and if he barricaded himself in its probly cuz he was gonna do it, and he didnt want anyone fuckin with him while he was doin it.

[bangs gravel on keyboard] Case Closed

You stating your opinion does not make the case closed.
Please leave this thread.

[Pactum]

But that's the thing you see. At that point of his life he was quite happy. He wasn't suicidal at all.

How do you know? Did you meet him? Talk to him?
And don't say "because reports by his best mates said so." You have no idea what bad judge of character people have. Another thing is the most depressed people will act all happy and stress free, just to not reveal their true feelings.

I should know, I take psychology.

[pyrex]

According to his lyrics around that time. According to his journals. According to the fact that he quite happily went to a rehab clinic.

[pineapplexpress]

i honestly dont know what happend, i'd like to belieave he commited suicide because i dont know why anyone would kill such a fucking genius.

[pyrex]

They'd kill him for his money...

[superflysuperwhite]

if they were to kill him for his money.. they probably would have taken it.

and as for being happy, showing sings of being happy doesnt nesisarilly mean a person is, just like going to a rehab clinic... then shooting up heroin.

here another thing.. if he did O.D. right away.. he'd have probably been dead within about 20 minutes... so you cant "murder" a dead man.

[Pactum]

Speaking of "happy" people.
Does anyone remember the Blues Clues guy from about 10 years ago. On the TV show he looks perfectly happy.
Anyone wanna guess how he died?
...
...
...
...
Suicide. Deliberate drug OD.

[pyrex]

if they were to kill him for his money.. they probably would have taken it.

and as for being happy, showing sings of being happy doesnt nesisarilly mean a person is, just like going to a rehab clinic... then shooting up heroin.

here another thing.. if he did O.D. right away.. he'd have probably been dead within about 20 minutes... so you cant "murder" a dead man.

His credit card was used the day after he died
His wife gained all his money after he was dead.
He fled the re-hab clinic because he knew someone was after him.
In that case he probably didn't OD and the heroin was injected into him to make it look like he committed suicide.

[superflysuperwhite]

im sure a rehab clinic would have been a much safer place.

well if his wife got the money.. id guess the credit card thing isnt that weird.. and courtny love was the one who wanted him dead.. so that be kinda stupid.. unless you are talking about courtney..

no, because if he was killed first his circulatory system would have shut down and the heroin wouldnt go any where.

[charlee]

i always wondered what happend to the blues clues guy...
i learn something new every day :P

[pyrex]

im sure a rehab clinic would have been a much safer place.

well if his wife got the money.. id guess the credit card thing isnt that weird.. and courtny love was the one who wanted him dead.. so that be kinda stupid.. unless you are talking about courtney..

no, because if he was killed first his circulatory system would have shut down and the heroin wouldnt go any where.

yeah it would have been a safe place--he probably fled in panic.
well then then heroin might have been forced into him before they killed him. or he OD and got killed all within 20 minutes.

[rsdbaby]

Believe nothing you hear and only half of what you see.

The Blues Clues guy is still alive, it was just a rumor.

http://www.who2.com/imnotdeadyet.html

Theres dozens of websites like that. He just got bored of acting like a mentally retarded guy every day for 5 years.

[Pactum]

Believe nothing you hear and only half of what you see.

The Blues Clues guy is still alive, it was just a rumor.

http://www.who2.com/imnotdeadyet.html

Theres dozens of websites like that. He just got bored of acting like a mentally retarded guy every day for 5 years.

Daym. I stand corrected.

Goddam rumors. That just completely destroys the point I made.

[VCTR]

i was told it was an 20.Ga

[VCTR]

also i think courtney love is his murderer

[Pactum]

VCTR.
Use the "edit me" option. Don't double post

[hellknight]

Kurt Cobain supposedly commit suicide by shooting himself in the side of the head with a shotgun after barricading himself into the room. Surely at that close range part of his head or his entire head would have blown to pieces.

how do you know that his head wasn't blown to pieces?

[Buddha]

i was told it was an 20.Ga

I heard that too, seems an odd choice.



I love the guy but he killed himself. The fans who argue he was murdered are the people who don't see the manliness in suicide. He went out on top and new it.

If he hadn't killed himself he'd be a has-been junkie right now, I'm sorry.

And who's to say if was happy, you can't tell. I myself have been diagnosed with major depression and GAD and none of my friends or family have a clue.

[Pactum]

Buddha, just out of curiosity, did you post that from your phone??

[pyrex]

how do you know that his head wasn't blown to pieces?

because ive seen the picture of him dead and his head is still on his body.

[pyrex]

I heard that too, seems an odd choice.



I love the guy but he killed himself. The fans who argue he was murdered are the people who don't see the manliness in suicide. He went out on top and new it.

If he hadn't killed himself he'd be a has-been junkie right now, I'm sorry.

And who's to say if was happy, you can't tell. I myself have been diagnosed with major depression and GAD and none of my friends or family have a clue.

Manliness in suicide? WTF? What has manliness got to do with anything? And anyway Kurt Cobain wouldn't give a fuck about being manly.

[Buddha]

So this just isn't up for argument for you is it? I mean you start a thread and then you wont consider anything anyone says.

[Pactum]

So this just isn't up for argument for you is it? I mean you start a thread and then you wont consider anything anyone says.
Not trying to start anything here... But the thread is called "Kurt Cobain was murdered"

[pyrex]

So this just isn't up for argument for you is it? I mean you start a thread and then you wont consider anything anyone says.

I'm considering everything that people post and i have arguments against most things. And if you havn't realized--ive been debating the subject a lot.

On the previous post I was just saying-- wtf has manliness got to do with anything.

[Basarab]

thats the stupidest fucking thing I have ever heard. Kurt killed himself, and this is coming from a life long diehard nirvana fan. How could you think he was murdered? He was always extre***y depressed/suicidal. Doing heroin sure as hell doesn't help either. Anyone that thinks he was murdered is a fucking dipshit

[pyrex]

thats the stupidest fucking thing I have ever heard. Kurt killed himself, and this is coming from a life long diehard nirvana fan. How could you think he was murdered? He was always extre***y depressed/suicidal. Doing heroin sure as hell doesn't help either. Anyone that thinks he was murdered is a fucking dipshit

Thank you for your opinion.
Read the previous posts and see if you can justify how he could have possibly killed himself. If you can, then call me a dipshit all you want. If you can't then go fuck yourself.

[Pactum]

Resorting to violence, huh?
Just proves we're winning.

[Basarab]

WTf, whatever you think you know its bullshit. He shot himself in the head thats that. Why would you even think he was murdered in the first place? its just nonsense

[Pactum]

I'm starting to regret choosing the "He commit suicide" option in the poll.
I should have just picked 'Don't give a shit"
I mean what does it matter if he was killed or he committed suicide.... Either way he's dead.

[Basarab]

yeah, I agree, it doesn't matter anymore

[pyrex]

Resorting to violence, huh?
Just proves we're winning.

Resorting to violence? Since when has it been possible to throw a punch via the internet? If you were reffering to me saying fuck--I only said it once and it wasn't used because I had nothing else to say.

[pyrex]

WTf, whatever you think you know its bullshit. He shot himself in the head thats that. Why would you even think he was murdered in the first place? its just nonsense

Thats more like 'violence' as you call it Pactum. 'whatever you think its bullshit' . That's just like saying fuck you i'm right and your wrong. So no your not winning.

[Basarab]

I just refuse to believe kurt cobain was murdered when all the signs point to suicide. He killed himself...why would he not have? He shot up a bunch of heroin and before he got to the point where he could no longer shoot a guy he pulled the trigger. But whats it even matter anyway? Even as a big nirvana fan, the past is the past, whats the point of it?

[LNT-5265F]

that's fuckin right

[Pactum]

Resorting to violence? Since when has it been possible to throw a punch via the internet? If you were reffering to me saying fuck--I only said it once and it wasn't used because I had nothing else to say.
Violence meaning; comebacks that have no relation to the argument, or just fillers when you have nothing else to say (like you conveniently mentioned above).... Such as "fuck you" or in your case pyrex "then go fuck yourself"

Which is why, if someone says something to which you have no counter-argument too, it's better to accept the fact and realize that your accusations are flawed then trying to get the last word with "below the belt hits"

[pyrex]

Violence meaning; comebacks that have no relation to the argument, or just fillers when you have nothing else to say (like you conveniently mentioned above).... Such as "fuck you" or in your case pyrex "then go fuck yourself"

Which is why, if someone says something to which you have no counter-argument too, it's better to accept the fact and realize that your accusations are flawed then trying to get the last word with "below the belt hits"

I could have just posted it without the 'go fuck yourself' and gotten the same effect. I just posted that because I felt the need to swear because he had done it so much in the previous post. And no my accusations are not flawed.

[pyrex]

I just refuse to believe kurt cobain was murdered when all the signs point to suicide. He killed himself...why would he not have? He shot up a bunch of heroin and before he got to the point where he could no longer shoot a guy he pulled the trigger. But whats it even matter anyway? Even as a big nirvana fan, the past is the past, whats the point of it?

Why would he load the gun with three shells? Why would he buy a 12 bore shotgun when he already had plenty of other guns? He used a 12 bore shotgun--so why was his head not blown off? Why would he barricade himself in? I doubt there'd be a point 'before he got to the point where he could no longer shoot a guy' but anyway if there was then why the fuck would he take the heroin? The point of it is to bring justice. Why was his credit card used the day after he died?

[Pactum]

Here's is an article on the matter. Hopefully it'll end this annoying-ness:

Following a tour stop at Terminal Eins in Munich, Germany, on March 1, 1994, Cobain was diagnosed with bronchitis and severe laryngitis. He flew to Rome the next day for medical treatment, and was joined there by his wife on March 3. The next morning, Love awoke to find that Cobain had overdosed on a combination of champagne and Rohypnol (Love had a prescription for Rohypnol filled after arriving in Rome). Cobain was immediately rushed to the hospital, and spent the rest of the day unconscious. After five days in the hospital, Cobain was released and returned to Seattle. Love later stated that the incident was Cobain's first suicide attempt.
On March 18, Love phoned police to inform them that Cobain was suicidal and had locked himself in a room with a gun. Police arrived and confiscated several guns and a bottle of pills from Cobain, who insisted that he was not suicidal and had locked himself in the room to hide from Love. When questioned by police, Love said that Cobain had never mentioned that he was suicidal and that she had not seen him with a gun.
Love arranged an intervention concerning Cobain's drug use that took place on March 25. The ten people involved included musician friends, record company executives, and one of Cobain's closest friends, Dylan Carlson. But bassist Krist Novoselic tipped him off as he considered the idea to be "stupid". However, by the end of the day, Cobain had agreed to undergo a detox program. Cobain arrived at the Exodus Recovery Center in Los Angeles, California on March 30. The following night, Cobain walked outside to have a cigarette, then climbed over a six-foot-high fence to leave the facility. He took a taxi to Los Angeles Airport and flew back to Seattle. Over the course of April 2 and April 3, Cobain was spotted in various locations around Seattle, but most of his friends and family were unaware of his whereabouts. On April 3, Love contacted a private investigator, Tom Grant, and hired him to find Cobain. On April 7, amid rumors Nirvana was going to break up, the band pulled out of the Lollapalooza that year.
On April 8, 1994, Cobain's body was discovered at his Lake Washington home by an electrician who had arrived to install a security system. Apart from a minor amount of blood coming out of Cobain's ear, the electrician reported seeing no visible signs of trauma, and initially believed that Cobain was asleep until he saw the shotgun pointing at his chin. A suicide note was found that said, "I haven't felt the excitement of listening to as well as creating music, along with really writing . . . for too many years now". A high concentration of heroin and traces of Valium were also found in his body. Cobain's body had been lying there for days; the coroner's report estimated Cobain to have died on April 5, 1994.

[pyrex]

Here's is an article on the matter. Hopefully it'll end this annoying-ness:

Following a tour stop at Terminal Eins in Munich, Germany, on March 1, 1994, Cobain was diagnosed with bronchitis and severe laryngitis. He flew to Rome the next day for medical treatment, and was joined there by his wife on March 3. The next morning, Love awoke to find that Cobain had overdosed on a combination of champagne and Rohypnol (Love had a prescription for Rohypnol filled after arriving in Rome). Cobain was immediately rushed to the hospital, and spent the rest of the day unconscious. After five days in the hospital, Cobain was released and returned to Seattle. Love later stated that the incident was Cobain's first suicide attempt.
On March 18, Love phoned police to inform them that Cobain was suicidal and had locked himself in a room with a gun. Police arrived and confiscated several guns and a bottle of pills from Cobain, who insisted that he was not suicidal and had locked himself in the room to hide from Love. When questioned by police, Love said that Cobain had never mentioned that he was suicidal and that she had not seen him with a gun.
Love arranged an intervention concerning Cobain's drug use that took place on March 25. The ten people involved included musician friends, record company executives, and one of Cobain's closest friends, Dylan Carlson. But bassist Krist Novoselic tipped him off as he considered the idea to be "stupid". However, by the end of the day, Cobain had agreed to undergo a detox program. Cobain arrived at the Exodus Recovery Center in Los Angeles, California on March 30. The following night, Cobain walked outside to have a cigarette, then climbed over a six-foot-high fence to leave the facility. He took a taxi to Los Angeles Airport and flew back to Seattle. Over the course of April 2 and April 3, Cobain was spotted in various locations around Seattle, but most of his friends and family were unaware of his whereabouts. On April 3, Love contacted a private investigator, Tom Grant, and hired him to find Cobain. On April 7, amid rumors Nirvana was going to break up, the band pulled out of the Lollapalooza that year.
On April 8, 1994, Cobain's body was discovered at his Lake Washington home by an electrician who had arrived to install a security system. Apart from a minor amount of blood coming out of Cobain's ear, the electrician reported seeing no visible signs of trauma, and initially believed that Cobain was asleep until he saw the shotgun pointing at his chin. A suicide note was found that said, "I haven't felt the excitement of listening to as well as creating music, along with really writing . . . for too many years now". A high concentration of heroin and traces of Valium were also found in his body. Cobain's body had been lying there for days; the coroner's report estimated Cobain to have died on April 5, 1994.


He had bronchitis and severe laryngitis for a while before that and that is why he started using heroin--to take the pain away. Not because he was depressed. He probably overdosed on the champagne and rohypnol for fun or to take away the pain. Courtney Love proably labelled it as a suicide attempt so that when he was killed it would look like he was suicidal and commited suicide. The supposed 'suicide note' was a letter to the fans of nirvana telling them that the band was breaking up. The last part of it was to his wife and daughter about the divorce. Oh and Tom Grant is the one that made that website I posted about Cobain being murdered. Yeah he was helping Courtney origionally but only up until he realised what was going on and that he'd been murdered. Yet again I ask you -- why would he load the shotgun with three shells? And -- It was a 12 bore so why the fuck wasn't his head blown off? He was murdered. End of.

[Cake]

Well...i dont really care....but if he WAS shot in the SIDE of the head with a shotgun then HOW did he accomplish this? What kind of shotgun?

[pyrex]

Precisely. And why the fuck wasn't his head blown off. It was a 12 bore.