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khaos
November 13th, 2008, 09:52 PM
i dont think anyone understands anyone
i think each inividual's mind is too complex for the next individual to comprehend
and when you try to explain your mind, thoughts, and theories in a way other people can understand you get an individuals philosophy, as something a person thinks another person will understand to figure out his mind.
and when you think you comprehend a person's philosophy, you still dont know everything about his mind. and you're still not certain you've got it right.
but the thing is, that your comprehension of an individuals philosophy can be the opposite of another person's comprehension.
My theory on life is that we were meant to think, dream, believe, love, and die and thats it
but you are probably thinking im crazy.
this whole thing is nothing but my philosophy
you will comprehend it
someone else will too, but it will be completely different
so philosophy is nothing but a guessing game. to try to figure out other philosophies. but never being right
it all comes back down to
i dont think anyone understands anyone
so philosophy is philosophically impossible
itismesaj
November 13th, 2008, 11:56 PM
The purpose of philosophy is to answer (and, by extension, propose) questions. Since everyone has different questions, philosophy answers everyone's questions, just at different times and in different ways.
For instance, the philosophy of deontology may answer some questions for me, but may answer others (or, indeed, none at all) for you.
Do you see my point?
Ghostis
November 14th, 2008, 02:03 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ce35DZEsej8
khaos
November 14th, 2008, 06:46 PM
The purpose of philosophy is to answer (and, by extension, propose) questions. Since everyone has different questions, philosophy answers everyone's questions, just at different times and in different ways.
For instance, the philosophy of deontology may answer some questions for me, but may answer others (or, indeed, none at all) for you.
Do you see my point?
haha yea.
but that was just my theory
i think i was high when i wrote that, but surprisingly it sort of makes sense.
exial
December 25th, 2008, 07:24 AM
it all comes back down to
i dont think anyone understands anyone
so philosophy is philosophically impossible
damn khaos you just killed philosophy..
a2thae
December 29th, 2008, 06:56 AM
Understanding is relative of course. When you say "understanding" could you establish some sort of standard for me to refer to? If you don't set a standard, then that leaves the answers open ended..and a philosophical debate that could last forever can pursue.
If you define "understanding" as complete knowledge or nearly complete knowledge of a subject, or an object, then in general we have little if any understanding of anything. It is this regard I think you were getting at, and I think you are correct. Sentient beings are hard to fully comprehend. Psychologically there is nothing like us humans. The insane/genius are the most complex or perhaps the most simple...i digress
However if you define "understanding" as being able to interpret something to make some sort of sense in the eyes of most people, and be proved or postulated then that opens a whole other realm of possibilities and thus we can "understand" everything.
aele
December 30th, 2008, 12:16 AM
to understand is to believe -with reason- that something is the way it is. but i think that perhaps it is not understanding that is relative but rather the reason for which you believe. does that make any sense?
therefore if u believe something you either automatically accept it as the truth or question it and maybe it is in that questioning that is the heart of philosophy.
questioning that which you believe is the truth in order to give yourself reasons to believe differantly.
A Deo et Rege
February 13th, 2009, 10:36 AM
i dont think anyone understands anyone
i think each inividual's mind is too complex for the next individual to comprehend
and when you try to explain your mind, thoughts, and theories in a way other people can understand you get an individuals philosophy, as something a person thinks another person will understand to figure out his mind.
and when you think you comprehend a person's philosophy, you still dont know everything about his mind. and you're still not certain you've got it right.
but the thing is, that your comprehension of an individuals philosophy can be the opposite of another person's comprehension.
My theory on life is that we were meant to think, dream, believe, love, and die and thats it
but you are probably thinking im crazy.
this whole thing is nothing but my philosophy
you will comprehend it
someone else will too, but it will be completely different
so philosophy is nothing but a guessing game. to try to figure out other philosophies. but never being right
it all comes back down to
i dont think anyone understands anyone
so philosophy is philosophically impossible
I know this discussion is somewhat old, but I think I have something to add.
I think your views about philosophy are a bit one sided; this is not to say that they lack merit, just that they are unrefined. As far as I can tell the main point of your argument is that one person cannot possibly understand, to any great extent, what another person is truly thinking; that is not to say one person cannot, on some level, understand what another is thinking, but a persons understanding will always be clouded by his own opinions. I would even go as far to say that few people actually have a complete understanding of their own thoughts; we, for the most part, are only privy to our conscious thoughts. Our subconscious, on the other hand, is a mystery to us because we cannot directly access it. However, our subconscious is where our deepest thoughts are contained; all of our memories and life experiences are contained with the subconscious, so in a sense our true self is in our subconscious. These bits of information most often present themselves in our dreams as our brains way of trying understand what they truly mean. When we encounter a new experience our conscious mind will automatically begin to ponder what this new experience means, and when we are satisfied with our conclusion we move on; However, our subconscious mind will continue to ponder the true meaning of our recent encounter, and until it is satisfied with the results it will continue to try and comprehend the encounter. This is all to say that we can never really have a complete understanding of our own minds.
On a side note, philosophy in the simplest of terms is not just a question, but one question in general; Why? That is to say the true purpose of any event or object is not determined by how or what, but why.
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