Thermite

[asdfghjkl]

Thermite is really powerful. If you set it on top of a car it will burn all the way through the car and the concrete below. This is a real easy way to make Thermite. First get some iron-oxide ( also known as rust). Here is an easy way to get iron oxide:

- Take a DC converter like the one used on a train set. Cut the connector
off, separate the wires, and strip them both.
- Now you need a jar of water with a tablespoon or so of sodium chloride
(Also known as salt!) added to it. This makes the water conductive
- Now insert both wires into the mixture (I am assuming you plugged the converter in...) and let them sit for five minutes. One of them will start bubbling more than the other. This is the POSITIVE(+) wire. If you do not do this test right, the final product will be the opposite (chemically) of rust, which is RUST ACID. You have no use for this here (although it IS useful!).
- Anyway, put the nail tied to the positive wire into the jar. Now put the negative wire in the other end. Now let it sit overnight and in the morning scrape the rust off of the nail & repeat until you got a bunch of rust on the bottom of the glass. Be generous with your rust collection. If you are going through the trouble of making thermite, you might as well make a lot, right?
- Now remove the excess water and pour the crusty solution onto a cookie sheet. Dry it in the sun for a few hours, or inside overnight. It should be an orange-brown color (although I have seen it in many different colors! Sometimes the color gets messed up, what can I say... but it is still iron oxide!)
- Crush the rust into a fine powder and heat it in a cast-iron pot until it is red. Now mix the pure iron oxide with pure aluminum filings which can be bought or filed down by hand from an aluminum tube or bar. The ratio of iron oxide to aluminum is 8 grams to 3 grams.
- requires a LOT of heat (more than a blow torch!) to ignite. However, magnesium ribbon (which is sort of hard to find.. call around) will do the trick. It takes the heat from the burning magnesium to light the thermite.

[G-O-Double-D]

direct copy of the anarchist cookbook...and i think its even already on here.....

what the hell?....

whatever...i dont care anymore.....

[kingbobisdead]

i think i ripped it off before he did. lol :D

[CROME IS MY TAG]

how do you ***t the to together with what a cast iron pot or something and dose it have to be hot when you put it on something plz reply to infor me :)

[Temptation]

Cant you just take rust off a car and grind it up and use it? like scrape off the rusty shit and grind it up? instead of taking like years to use the batteries and stuff?

[titsmigee]

its on the site like 4 times

and no u cant take rust off a car
it doesnt work right cuz its not
pure

[blowshitup]

go to video.google.com and search for thermite and it shows it burning through a car!

[cabose]

G-O-Double-D
isnt that cuddles's name on EG?????????

[hubeda]

well, i have seen that google video now and i am impressed. how did they get so much of it though, there must be an easier way than whats already posted here because i know that they didnt get a DC converter and put that in water(i know i skipped a few steps). if anyone has a better plan for makeing the iron oxide, please inform me. and, they used a simple fuse to light it. wtf? maybe they only used that to mkae it more showy to the audience? maybe there thermite is better and only needs a fuse.

[hubeda]

ok i've done a lot of research on the internet for thermite and came up with some intersting and usefull ideas. first off, another way off getting iron oxide that is much faster and easier is to burn very fine steal wool! not with a flame but with a current, like a 9V. i also read that adding bleach to the wool, then add vinegar. it should react almost insantly. what i read was this was a much faster way to get iron oxide, but then it wouldnt be as good as it could be. and for the aluminum, etch-a-scetch was mentioned for that source. ok, i also read a way to make the thermite better by adding flames and a significantly lower ingition temp by adding a few things. u need 4 things for this better thermite.
1.thermite 68.7%
2.berium nitrate 29%
3.sulphur 2%
4.binder .3%
i havent been to try this yet because i am currently a guest in a house in hong kong and i dont know any of the laws that deal with this stuff so i will try it at the end of july. and the ratio of 70:30 i found was a bit off by a few sites, rather its 74.7:25.3 for just the thermite. or just 3:1 ratio would be fine i would think.
i hope this info is correct sorry if its not, i hope it works too so i can say that i made a difference, as long this hasnt been posted before. oh, and i found a site that lets u order more what www.kon3.com has, u need to 21 still though, but the site is www.skylighter.com

[Cuddles]

G-O-Double-D
isnt that cuddles's name on EG?????????

yes, that's me damn you....i told you that already.....

[hubeda]

Thermite is really powerful. If you set it on top of a car it will burn all the way through the car and the concrete below. This is a real easy way to make Thermite. First get some iron-oxide ( also known as rust). Here is an easy way to get iron oxide:

- Take a DC converter like the one used on a train set. Cut the connector
off, separate the wires, and strip them both.
- Now you need a jar of water with a tablespoon or so of sodium chloride
(Also known as salt!) added to it. This makes the water conductive
- Now insert both wires into the mixture (I am assuming you plugged the converter in...) and let them sit for five minutes. One of them will start bubbling more than the other. This is the POSITIVE(+) wire. If you do not do this test right, the final product will be the opposite (chemically) of rust, which is RUST ACID. You have no use for this here (although it IS useful!).
- Anyway, put the nail tied to the positive wire into the jar. Now put the negative wire in the other end. Now let it sit overnight and in the morning scrape the rust off of the nail & repeat until you got a bunch of rust on the bottom of the glass. Be generous with your rust collection. If you are going through the trouble of making thermite, you might as well make a lot, right?
- Now remove the excess water and pour the crusty solution onto a cookie sheet. Dry it in the sun for a few hours, or inside overnight. It should be an orange-brown color (although I have seen it in many different colors! Sometimes the color gets messed up, what can I say... but it is still iron oxide!)
- Crush the rust into a fine powder and heat it in a cast-iron pot until it is red. Now mix the pure iron oxide with pure aluminum filings which can be bought or filed down by hand from an aluminum tube or bar. The ratio of iron oxide to aluminum is 8 grams to 3 grams.
- requires a LOT of heat (more than a blow torch!) to ignite. However, magnesium ribbon (which is sort of hard to find.. call around) will do the trick. It takes the heat from the burning magnesium to light the thermite.actually i have been doing lots of research lately and i see some of this information may be incorrect. such as the salt u add, i think regular salt would work, but epsom salt is a better choice. the DC converter only has to be an AC adapter. and the wire that bubbles, thats the - end, not the +. you wrap the + end to the IRON nail. do not let the nail touch the - end in the water. and yes both wires are submerged. u should only leave it in the water for about 10 hours.
hope i made this procces easier.

[Black Napalm]

well I saw a video on Metacafe that said how to make it.

It said the Aluminum powder had to be 400 mesh and the ratio was:
For every 1 gram of aluminum powder you need 2 grams of iron oxide.

[PhonePhrack]

your rectifier/converter has a fuse or the house will short circuit and too much alt and the rectifier will blow up

[TheRevolutionBegins]

An other way to Get FeO(iron Oxide) is, how hubeda said, to burn very fine steal wool. If I can believe my chemistry teacher, my chemistry book, and the experiment the teacher has done, you only have to ignite the wool and not with a current.
You also can put the iron into water+salt(this will accelerate the procces), and then take it out, an place it somwhere to dry. afetr max.3 days, you have iron oxyde.

[FireTech93]

or you can go to a hardware store and buy a kilo of red Fe2O3 or black Fe3O4 iron oxide as a cement colouring agent for five dollars

[DoG MikkyW]

Wow, this is like, a year old. Nothing new was really added. Meh, not my place though. Pce

[Phoenix Fire]

In his defense, someone did post before him last night.

so.

They both suck.

[DoG MikkyW]

I was mainly referring to the first kid, yet the second kid shouldn't have continued this...
Anyways, let's end this.

Thermite is the combination of Iron Oxide and Aluminum Powder. It could be argued that thermite is only thermite when it is actually reacting, but for the purpose of simplicity, when the two are together in the right mixture, it is thermite. What is the right mixture? I've heard so many variations it's not even funny, 2 to 1, 3 parts to 7, 4 to 6, 5 and 5, in reality, they probably all work, they just have different yields and temperatures at which they burn.
You'll need the materials, Iron Oxide can be had from hardware stores as cement dyes (firetech), it also can be acquired from some paint stores as a dye and texture agent. Iron Oxide can be made multiple ways, very easy ways are to stick steel wool in vinegar, and it will create rust (iron oxide) on the wool. I've heard you can also burn the wool, and it does burn. You can also do the DC method, which is the way my friend and I used, which works wonderfully, details are above. Scraping Iron Oxide off bumpers is probably not efficient, don't bother.
Aluminum Oxide can also be bought at paint stores as it makes cars shiny. Magnesium blocks can be found at wal-mart and many other stores in the hunting section as a fire starter, if there are two different metals, the magnesium is most likely the larger one, that is brighter than the other, which is probably flint. You can grind these blocks down, there is a small chance that the powder might ignite, so be careful. Also, aluminum powder can be found in etch-a-sketch's if you can't get any of the other supplies, Do not use the metal balls inside the etch-a-sketch though.
With both of these, the Iron Oxide and the Aluminum Powder, the efficiency and reactivity is slightly increased for the finer the powder you have. Some very fine mixtures of thermite can be lit with lighters. You can also use magnesium sparklers (many standard sparklers are magnesium based), just stick in the mixture and light, works great as a fuse. I've heard of barium nitrate also being used. Just remember, thermite needs a lot of energy to light, so you might want to find something hot to light it with.
Now, this is just random info, it is thought, (and heavily debated at these forums) that thermite can burn so hot as to ignite water, it completely depends though, on the ratio of thermite to water, as thermite is used for under-water welding. Also, thermite on ice has been shown to actually explode quite violently, showering molten metal everywhere. The feasibility of a thermite grenade has long been questioned, yet no difinitive answers have been given, seeing as the sudden acceleration of particles of thermite and the cooling effect of the air might make the molten metal turn to turn into solid iron.

If I missed anything tell me, also, if I'm wrong, just post what I said that was wrong, and I'll change it. Additionally, stop fucking bringing up thermite if you don't have anything original to say, you aren't special.

[Phoenix Fire]

Well said Comrade .

[Ninjaofdeth]

would 6061 aluminum be effective? i am working with it in one of my classes, and there are piles of aluminum powder by the band saw. also, i could probably borrow one of my friends angle grinder and just grind down a decent sized piece of the 6061.

so, if it matters what kind of aluminum it is, i'd like to know

[DoG MikkyW]

Long story short, yes. It might work even slightly better, due to having magnesium as well. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/6061_aluminum decide for yourself.