philosophy forum

[crazyassmetalhead]

that's what this is now...............says me.............since i seem to be the only one posting on this currently pointless forum

cause philosophy is much broader than religion and usually not filled with lies......just loose interpretations of things that can be changed

more my thing




so what would be the philosophy you identify most with when it comes to life and death and such (or a religion if you want but i'd advise against it)?

me i seem to identify most with the philosophy of nihilism, but i'm also starting to think about reincarnation and such so it's turning into a weirdass mix of nihilism, paganism, and buddhism (spelling?)..................

so i'm not really sure





*someone should change the name of this forum or just delete it entirely so we can all go back to discussing such things in enlightened individuals*

[numerator-91]

indeed this section must die

[Spyre]

I guess im considered agnostic with this. I believe something cool happens when you die, but its impossible to find out. Like just think about it, imagine sleeping and never waking up or having any dreams.....its impossible. You dont sit there and remember every minute while you were sleeping, it just seems to go by in an instant. Its like trying to picture not existing, its impossible, at least for me, i dont know about some of you immortal gods on this site.

[FreeRacer]

Satan says eat me.

now go cry to your mommys.

[Cannon D]

shutup free racer all you ever say is go cry to your mommys like a 4 year old. I know its you phoenixfire so cut the bullshit and shut the fuck up

[Warpurlgis]

this sucks balls

[crazyassmetalhead]

i always declare shit or start something then completey forget about it or lose interest.........there are many testaments to this including a social group forum....and this stupid thread

[a2thae]

fuck religion. I'm back by the way ahaha...not really. I'm not back. Anyway, religion shouldn't be incorporated with philosophy, and philosophy should go to the enlightened individuals thread.

[Warpurlgis]

why is this cunt of a forum still up?

[unibomber]

Noone needs religon, it would all be just if the world was full of atheism!

[CHEETZzz]

Noone needs religon, it would all be just if the world was full of atheism!

i hope you're not serious
and didn't you see the episode of South Park where the whole world was atheists? clearly not a good idea

[Ghostis]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ep2u4xvYhjw

[unibomber]

Look ppl, religon was created in a time of dispair and in cruel times, let me explain. First of all lets get down to the root of it all. Mary! Mary was a whore who got fucked one to many times in the barn out back, and what happened? She became pregnant. OH NO, so insted of fessin up to what she had done, she laid on a rather fat "white lie". I am not a whore god gave me this baby! You see this is where she saves herself and the baby "jew" jesus. So she has the baby and by now her and her baby are famous, and they get all kinds of really neat things. when and as the kid gets older his mother to save her own ass as well as his, keeps on telling him your the son of god and you can do anything! So now that this bastard is running around telling a bunch of more lies these deciples get the idea to make lots of money off of this. and they do for a while, until the other's catholics, muslems and whatever other religon was out there at the time, anyway they got mad and were making less money so they strung the lying bastard up for blasphemy, mary was a whore and jesus was a bastard. END OF FUCKEN STORY! GODFUCK

[Granz]

I love philosophy and learning what other people think about what's what....But I hate snobs.

[whateverdude]

Yep Jesus was probably some self righteous cult leading prick from age 4 to about 30 cause mommy convinced everyone she was always a virgin therefore he's the son of god, how can you not get an inflated head from that? Nobody cared until his whole son of god thing got him crucified. Probably why there's not much written of him about those missing years. And after he died then people wrote all that great stuff about him kinda like a eulogy, nobody talks ill of the dead, kinda bad decorum.

[KusKus]

Look ppl, religon was created in a time of dispair and in cruel times

wrong we humans are the only one (exept monkeys and dolphins)who can self reflect
we can think "I"
compared to birds they dont, they are "hungry get food"

b/c we are so intelegent
we star thinking
one questoin is what happens after death

people started beliving a afterlife
that is why acitectue people can tell if a culture had a religion
b/c of burials

if we had no religion
we problebly whould have dumped bodies in a pile

but modern time instead of saying "RIP" or along a line for religious
now people say respect to disinclude God

[ravenscar]

im starting to not believe in religion, only half of any religion makes sense to me.
i will post my problems with each religion:
christianity:sex is a sin
buddhism: a tree enlightened him,no trees are special
islam:fasting, i gotta eat more than once i day
scientology: its just retarded, its a religion based off anti-religion

[KusKus]

christianity:sex is a sin
WTF
premarital
many people dont know but
after marrage
the church is like GO HAVE SEX ALOT I MEAN ALOT
sex after marrage in the church is a VERY GOOD DEED

buddhism: a tree enlightened him,no trees are special
ur not special LOL

islam:fasting, i gotta eat more than once i day
is ur poor little tummy not stand it

scientology: its just retarded, its a religion based off anti-religion
Realy how? i hounestly dont know how




oh no
this is coming into a theology thread not philosophy

[ravenscar]

science is anti religion , and you just triple posted

[KusKus]

science is anti religion , and you just triple posted

thank you for pointing that out buddy ;D
Science has nothing to do with schientology
and science is not anti religion LOLOLOL

[EmbrExcell]

Do we actually even exist? What if we're all just n a Matrix-esque place, where when you press your finger against the keyboard it's really just your brain telling you that there is resistance there. After all feelings, emotion, and perception are all just chemical reactions and neural transactions aren't they?

What if: If you truly believed that there was no resistance on the ground or chair you're on right now, then you could simply fall through?

[ravenscar]

ok i inhale plastic smoke and i dont think that shit up

[EmbrExcell]

And I think that shit up while sober too.

Want somethin' to freak you out?

At this very second you are surrounded by countless humanoid figures, but they are ethereal. You cannot touch, s***l, taste, see, or hear them. They follow you around everywhere. What do they look like?

[hdeuce]

if they are humanoid they look like humans dipshit.

[EmbrExcell]

Humanoid just means that they walk upright and have arms and legs.

[ravenscar]

damn beat me to the punch

[EmbrExcell]

I'm good for that. And hardly much else.

[ravenscar]

wait both of you beat me to the punch wtf!?!?!?

[EmbrExcell]

Oh. I thought you were referring to my post. If you're referring to Deuce's then you're both wrong.

"A humanoid is a hybrid term from Latin humanus "human" and the Greek -oeides expressing likeness. The term was coined in the year of 1918 to refer to fossils considered close to human but not strictly human, including species now classified as Homo such as the Neanderthals.

The term more generally refers to any being whose body structure resembles that of a human, including upright stance and bipedalism. This includes anthropomorphic creatures in mythology as well as humanoid robots, especially in the context of science fiction and fantasy fiction. An android or gynoid is a humanoid robot designed to look like a male or female human, respectively, although the words are frequently perceived to be synonymous."

Taken from the Wikipedia page.

So? What do they look like?

[ravenscar]

apes ghosts

[EmbrExcell]

I would think for a longer period about this one. Get back to me at a later date. I find this and another "test" of sorts is good for personality profiling, and can tell you a lot about the person.

The second test: You are a sphere, similar to a marble.
Now think even longer and harder about this one.
What color are you?
Are you shiny or dull?
Transparent or opaque?
Are you thin or a deep color?
Think of what each color represents to you, what each part of your personality, and how your past experiences influence the color.
Everything in your entire life influences this color, and this color IS you.
Now, what color are you?

[ravenscar]

red mixed with black in swirls

[EmbrExcell]

It's official. You don't think before posting. Think long and hard meant more then 11 minutes.

[ravenscar]

i take it back, solid black with smatters of woodsy colors and blood

[EmbrExcell]

You can never take it back.. Now your stuck with a gay color scheme.

[ravenscar]

wow uber kill a post.i admit the first one wasnt well thought out but the second is my colors,hang on imma make a thread for this

[hdeuce]

I believe in a whole plethora of things that were guided by my upbringing and past that my bringing up of myself this may be a long post depending on how I feel as it goes on because to form my opinions my beliefs and thus my philosophy my entire life story comes into play. I believe first and foremost that there is a higher power, this may confuse some people but I will continue on with I don't "believe in" that higher power. I was raised as a roman catholic and taught the teachings of that religion I was baptized, later I received my first communion and finally confirmed into that religion at that time I stopped going to church and for the most part stopped believing in that particular god although I still hold sacred some of the beliefs incorporated into the teaching of the religion I was raised in. As a young boy my mother taught me "It takes a bigger man to walk away from a fight", and I did for quite a while, receiving many beatings some severe. At some point and I'm not sure exactly what point I realized that it takes a bigger man to walk away because, and only because that guy is probably going to be assaulted from behind as he leaves the situation. I began to fight back, and actually for a period after learning that I could fight and was quite good at it instigated my own.I don't believe in fighting with weapons, however i do believe in defending yourself with them. Meaning if i start a fight I cant finish I will get my ass kicked, however, if you start a fight with me I WILL finish it by any means necessary and will use any advantage to come out of that situation on top. Somewhere between the ages of 11 and 16 I grew a strong distrust, maybe even contempt, for authority and have carried that same distrust with me through my life to this point. I'm a strong believer in free will and believe that free will should be executed to no-ones limits but your own. However I realize that society has boundaries and if you wish to live in that society you must either respect those boundaries or be willing to suffer the consequences of living outside them. I live outside those boundaries more often than not and am willing to suffer any consequences that will be dealt to me if ever someone is able to enforce them. I believe that any actions you commit while intoxicated are actions you should live by and make no excuse for because you still have the same morals drunk as sober, and if you do it drunk then the only reason you hadnt done it sober is because you didn't have the balls. Punk ... The music, the attitude, the movement. I condone it all. I am and have been a "punk" since the age of 14 approximately. My jeans aren't torn my jacket isn't studded and my hair isn't green. My exact belief system is complicated and my morals are unorthodox but they are there. I'll stop this post now before getting into more detail but, if you'd like more, just ask and I will post more.

[Tarasen]

My personal philosophy is Carpe Diem,
meaning I live in the moment.
I see no point to planning.
But I will live the moment like I had planned it.
I am ever searching for the perfect moment, I love violence, but if something can be solved with words, by all means word away, it's just, not everything can be solved by words, and when it can't, violence will be there to pick up the pieces, or smash them into smaller ones.
As for the afterlife, I believe in a, as far as I know, unique ending, I believe that whatever you believed in life, will be what you experience after.
The ends ALWAYS justify the means, crucifying jesus was a necessary means to save people from hell, exterminating the millions of jews aided in keeping the world population, and the social elite down, ever notice all those quips about jews having money? Hell, all these wars are aiding in keeping humanity ready in case any outside force acts upon our world.
I do not believe in forcing beliefs on people, but I do believe in enforcing moral values.
Without morals, we would end up exactly like rapture.
And try not to criticize my post without good reason, you kill a little part of the world everytime you submit a post like "Ur a douchebag" or "Fuk u n ur racist ideals u nazi"

[TotalAnarchyUK]

The ends dont always justify the means. If some crackhead robbed your mum and killed her because they needed money to score would you stand there and say "Oh well... the ends justify the means."

How the fuck can you justify the holocaust? Iam all ears fella.

Back to the OP: When your dead, your dead. End of the road, as all science evidence would suggest.

[crazyassmetalhead]

fuck justification, shit just happens.....reasons are overrated.

as for justifying anything, it's really easy......that's why it doesn't mean anything.

[EmbrExcell]

I can totally dig the live in the moment ideology.
We are humans. We shape and change the world we see fit and morals are nothing more than feelings programmed into us like machines.
Things are only the way you make them, and if you approach the world as such nothing is sacred, nothing in consequential.

The way I see life is that it's all a big game; A game to see who can have the most fun. Forget your morals because they'll get you nowhere and re-evaluate your beliefs because they can hold you back. All you have to do is follow your path to wherever it takes you. If god smites me for trying to make the most out of my life then I don't want to live in his naive joke of heaven. I would rather burn for an eternity then live like a *****g fool.

I'm not saying that you have to be corrupt to have fun. If it's your path to help others and that's what bring you joy in your life, then so be it. I'm just saying that one would have to be a fool to throw their life away to do something their heart was never set on anyways. Choose your own path, and never let anybody else influence it in a way that you don't like. After all, morals are nothing more than feelings programmed into us like machines.

Reject false idols.

[ravenscar]

ok, what are you taking to be that good, i want some

[V for vermicelli]

ok, what are you taking to be that good, i want some

Comon sense, pagan fool

[Tarasen]

Like whatsisface said, it's easy to justify anything, take for example the crackhead situation, the crackhead kills my mother in order to get money for his high, that would be a catalyst in my decision to become a police officer in order to prevent more incidents of the like.
Holocaust, world population. If WWI and WWII didn't happen, how many people do you think would be on earth right now? A shitload more. By killing those many millions it has aided in stalling for time to make a sustainable energy source to compensate for the oil shortage. If we ran out of oil just as the scientists discovered a sustainable energy source, it would be because of the wars, in WWII alone 20 million christians and 6 million jews were killed, and thats excluding the people doing the actual fighting. Thats 4 million people more than the entire population of Australia.

[ravenscar]

Comon sense, pagan fool

common sence dont apply on the internet, weak christan

[EmbrExcell]

Apparently grammar doesn't either.

And justification and morality have nothing to do with each other.

[hdeuce]

Hate to argue embr but that's not always true. Your morality can be governed by justification. It depends on whether your morality is dictated by society or by yourself. I dictate my own morality and therefore anything I can justify is morally right ... to me. However my moral correctness may not be morally correct to you.