love

[deathlord888]

ever been in love?

i have not

[Exploding_viper]

thought so but i just got fucked (not literally)

[numerator-91]

only with myself

[AlbertWesker]

Does my love for her count?
http://www.starman-imaging.com/mar04/mtntxrc370r.jpg

[Spyre]

no [

[AlbertWesker]

Okay, but I do love her.

[Palm3R]

Yeah, I have... She ended up not talking me, pretty much for no reason... but I still love her.

[Slawter]

i am now. ees nice for now. god damn im high

[Kasnia]

Currently in love. :]

[deathlord888]

Currently in love. :]

what is it like?

[exial]

Its not something you can explain.

[deathlord888]

i figured that

[techtiger]

YEP!!! with my baby doll
http://www.anarchistcookbook.com/album.php?albumid=81

[deathlord888]

haha no way that is your gf
she is sexy

[techtiger]

fo show dude.... still call me whipped??? or SMART!!! haha

[deathlord888]

hahah more so on the smart side now

[techtiger]

haha yea.... she joined the site cus i spend alot of time on it so she figuredit would be away for her to try to be apart of my hobbies

[CHEETZzz]

i also thought i was in love
but then i got really badly fucked [also not literally]
then i went in the deepest depression i've ever had
and now i'm out of it and here i am

if i was in love,
then i could only describe it as incredibly light
and it's the most comforting, carefree, alleviating feeling in the world.

right now i feel a nice weight over my shoulders all the time
and when i was super depressed it felt like i wore an iron vest everywhere
especially over my heart, my heart was fucking dead. like stone or metal

basically love is the opposite of that if you know what i'm talking about.
but what do i know...

[techtiger]

dude pretty much nailed it on the head.... its great. knowing that every moment that someones prob. thinking about you... and always knowing you have someone who cares... your on top of the world

[Kasnia]

what is it like?

^_______^ It's the most amazing feeling ever. I read in a post earlier today that someone described love as bordering on obsession. Well, imagine being obsessed with something, and then actually being able to have it. It'd make you so incredibly happy that you couldn't stand yourself. Lol.



YEP!!! with my baby doll
http://www.anarchistcookbook.com/album.php?albumid=81

Why do you let your gf post half-naked pictures of herself on the internet, especially a site with a LOT of 12-14 year old boys? Glad Mass isn't here... He'd probably have a field-day with that one.
Just thought I'd ask.

[freetibet]

lol i can just picture some kid jacking off to his girl.

I put yes because i think i have but i'm not sure. and i think kasnia described it best with the obssesion you can have or whatever

[Phoenix Fire]

^_______^ It's the most amazing feeling ever. I read in a post earlier today that someone described love as bordering on obsession. Well, imagine being obsessed with something, and then actually being able to have it. It'd make you so incredibly happy that you couldn't stand yourself. Lol.





Why do you let your gf post half-naked pictures of herself on the internet, especially a site with a LOT of 12-14 year old boys? Glad Mass isn't here... He'd probably have a field-day with that one.
Just thought I'd ask.


I fap to his gf :D:D:D:D

[numerator-91]

Why do you let your gf post half-naked pictures of herself on the internet, especially a site with a LOT of 12-14 year old boys? Glad Mass isn't here... He'd probably have a field-day with that one.
Just thought I'd ask.

if i'm not mistaken you are also taken by the female persuasion

mmmmmmmm. aliteration

[Phoenix Fire]

if i'm not mistaken you are also taken by the female persuasion

mmmmmmmm. aliteration

Wow, he went there..

[louied777]

currently am very much in love...engaged...possibly gonna be a daddy! I kinda hope I do get to be a daddy at 20

[Kasnia]

if i'm not mistaken you are also taken by the female persuasion

mmmmmmmm. aliteration

What does me liking girls have anything to do with this? Yeah, so what. His gf is hot. I wouldn't let my gf post half-naked pictures of herself on the internet though.

And what I meant about Mass is.. He's very well known for trying to get nudes from girls, showing nudes of himself to girls, taking their heads and posting them on nude photos, trying to cyber with girls, etc.


Also, congrats to Louied. ^___^

[numerator-91]

i didn't really mean anything i just wanted everyone to see my mad rhyming skills

[Kasnia]

i didn't really mean anything i just wanted everyone to see my mad rhyming skills

I did not even realize that. You did a good job, by the way.

[Wolf326]

Love is just an extreme form of like.....


Like obsession.

[OhShitNigga]

Twice love is a different kind of feeling than like in my opinion.

[Phoenix Fire]

Love is an evil , vile force that rots you from the inside out and cause all kinds of indigestion.

[ItsAPoorlyKeptSecret]

I was pretty skeptical bout "love" but then one day it just hit me, out of the blue. I can still clearing remember the moment, what it looked like around me,how i felt(before, during, after) and everything. The moment i knew i was. Its like you dont forget something like that not something that important that once you kno you cant ignore it, its part of you forever.

Even right now as i type thinkin bout it and the state of love i feel, its like my right arm feels heavy and my head is sort of heavy dizzy feeling. like its completely vulnerable, or at least so important to you, you dont want to test that if it can be gone or not real. Its like 100 percent sure of it and 100 percent afraid of losing it.

So pretty much its kind of a long story and pretty complicated. but so it took seven years, a random ring that was found and then heres what the moment was pretty much.... Ridin in the car, which always relaxes me, staring out the window just letting my mind wander. And i am staring at the sky its just so pretty i thought the oranges and the other colors so bright, and i have this ring in my hand that is reminding me of him, an its like..BAM!! i couldn't ever admit it...not even to myself. but its like everything seemed right in the world EVERYTHING, and it kind of hurt but in a wierd not painful way. and it was like this string in the center of my body, my very core that was telling me i was in love with him. and taht was it. i then felt like he's apart of me now and forever, good or bad. and the kicker is he's god knows where right now(stupid army) and i kno tomorrow or next year its still gonna be the same between us. its like nothing can change that. we still come back to each other with out missing a beat in no way changed.

Its like you dream of that person, and not in a erotic way, its like something simple and plain like rideing in a car or just sitting next to each other, and its just Happy! you cant even remember anything bad its just happy. and the you wake up and its sad and just want to see that person. and not in an obsessive way but they are always there in the back of your mind without evening knoing it. So with that said, love isnt a feeling...lust is the feeling, love is a part of you, the heart i guess haha and it doesnt go away.

[Phoenix Fire]

I was pretty skeptical bout "love" but then one day it just hit me, out of the blue. I can still clearing remember the moment, what it looked like around me,how i felt(before, during, after) and everything. The moment i knew i was. Its like you dont forget something like that not something that important that once you kno you cant ignore it, its part of you forever.

Even right now as i type thinkin bout it and the state of love i feel, its like my right arm feels heavy and my head is sort of heavy dizzy feeling. like its completely vulnerable, or at least so important to you, you dont want to test that if it can be gone or not real. Its like 100 percent sure of it and 100 percent afraid of losing it.

So pretty much its kind of a long story and pretty complicated. but so it took seven years, a random ring that was found and then heres what the moment was pretty much.... Ridin in the car, which always relaxes me, staring out the window just letting my mind wander. And i am staring at the sky its just so pretty i thought the oranges and the other colors so bright, and i have this ring in my hand that is reminding me of him, an its like..BAM!! i couldn't ever admit it...not even to myself. but its like everything seemed right in the world EVERYTHING, and it kind of hurt but in a wierd not painful way. and it was like this string in the center of my body, my very core that was telling me i was in love with him. and taht was it. i then felt like he's apart of me now and forever, good or bad. and the kicker is he's god knows where right now(stupid army) and i kno tomorrow or next year its still gonna be the same between us. its like nothing can change that. we still come back to each other with out missing a beat in no way changed.

Its like you dream of that person, and not in a erotic way, its like something simple and plain like rideing in a car or just sitting next to each other, and its just Happy! you cant even remember anything bad its just happy. and the you wake up and its sad and just want to see that person. and not in an obsessive way but they are always there in the back of your mind without evening knoing it. So with that said, love isnt a feeling...lust is the feeling, love is a part of you, the heart i guess haha and it doesnt go away.


Can I hire you to write my school essays?

[ItsAPoorlyKeptSecret]

only if you start them, other wise nah i'll proof read tho and correct things haha. why was the long winded or what?

[Phoenix Fire]

You post like a..
i dunno

[ItsAPoorlyKeptSecret]

wait.... i post like what ahaha i wasnt aware i posted a certain way, i am now intrigued. how do i post?

[Phoenix Fire]

Horrificly longly.

[ItsAPoorlyKeptSecret]

yea but that was just now and maybe once before. plus i had something to say bout this.
dont get mad cause you havent felt that way. :-P

[Phoenix Fire]

yea but that was just now and maybe once before. plus i had something to say bout this.
dont get mad cause you havent felt that way. :-P

I was not mad..
More like astonished.
Your primary post in most threads are longer than the threads themselves in most cases.

[ItsAPoorlyKeptSecret]

got lots to say then dont I. Cant help it. I talk to much. And i tend to ramble so that doesnt help.

[Phoenix Fire]

They seem to stay on topic.

[CHEETZzz]

lol phoenix just bone her already XD

nah, jf
but she has good posts

mine are long sometimes... depends on the topic and how interested i am
like in this thread

[techtiger]

lol phoenix just bone her already XD



HAHAHAHHHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHHA

yea her posts are usualy well thought out

[mega_duece]

does love only count towards humans
like i love my bong does that count?

[Maggotsfriend]

I love my drug dealer...

[Zamato Elite]

Love doesn't exist. It is a self conceived mind game we play on ourselves to add comfort.

We are attracted to the opposite (or same sex if a gene deformity is present) in the hopes of reproduction. We like to add 'emotions' and 'commitment' onto something that is actually quite simple.

I don't believe in relationships, love, or any other social conformities created by the media.

-Zam

[Kasnia]

Someone wasn't hugged as a child.

[Zamato Elite]

Someone wasn't hugged as a child.

ROFL!!! My mother spoiled the shit out of me, and she still does.

[superflysuperwhite]

Someone wasn't hugged as a child.

that or he has had his heart broken one too many times.

what about love for your children... im pretty sure most people dont weanna just fuck their kids, or parents or siblings.

and if it was just for reproductive purposes we'd be fucking the closest thing to us without a second thought

[ItsAPoorlyKeptSecret]

apparently he was "hugged" a little too much and too intimately

[Phoenix Fire]

"hugged to much"

Tiddled by his uncle much?

[mega_duece]

my balls itch

[Zamato Elite]

I was pretty skeptical bout "love" but then one day it just hit me, out of the blue. I can still clearing remember the moment, what it looked like around me,how i felt(before, during, after) and everything. The moment i knew i was. Its like you don't forget something like that not something that important that once you know you cant ignore it, its part of you forever.

Even right now as i type thinking bout it and the state of love i feel, its like my right arm feels heavy and my head is sort of heavy dizzy feeling. like its completely vulnerable, or at least so important to you, you don't want to test that if it can be gone or not real. Its like 100 percent sure of it and 100 percent afraid of losing it.

So pretty much its kind of a long story and pretty complicated. but so it took seven years, a random ring that was found and then heres what the moment was pretty much.... Ridin in the car, which always relaxes me, staring out the window just letting my mind wander. And i am staring at the sky its just so pretty i thought the oranges and the other colors so bright, and i have this ring in my hand that is reminding me of him, an its like..BAM!! i couldn't ever admit it...not even to myself. but its like everything seemed right in the world EVERYTHING, and it kind of hurt but in a wierd not painful way. and it was like this string in the center of my body, my very core that was telling me i was in love with him. and taht was it. i then felt like he's apart of me now and forever, good or bad. and the kicker is he's god knows where right now(stupid army) and i kno tomorrow or next year its still gonna be the same between us. its like nothing can change that. we still come back to each other with out missing a beat in no way changed.

Its like you dream of that person, and not in a erotic way, its like something simple and plain like rideing in a car or just sitting next to each other, and its just Happy! you cant even remember anything bad its just happy. and the you wake up and its sad and just want to see that person. and not in an obsessive way but they are always there in the back of your mind without evening knoing it. So with that said, love isnt a feeling...lust is the feeling, love is a part of you, the heart i guess haha and it doesnt go away.

Cute, but you are experiencing attraction. Do you honestly believe in some magical force boding two humans?!!? There are people who think god talks to them when they kneel down and fold their hands. You can trick your mind into believing anything you want. The fact of the matter is, scientist know damn well why we are attracted to each other. Surprisingly, nowhere in the reports is magic mentioned.

[Falcor]

I still love Chuck <3

[Phoenix Fire]

Your a liar..

[Zamato Elite]

Your a liar..

Yea your right. Magic does exist. How stupid of me to impose anything to the contrary.....

[Zamato Elite]

I still love Chuck <3

Corrected: I am still 'attracted' to Chuck.

Don't worry, this 'love' you speak of will eventually die out. It almost always does. Don't come crying to me when the inevitable happens.

[Kasnia]

Yea your right. Magic does exist. How stupid of me to impose anything to the contrary.....

I think Phoenix was talking to Falcor.

[Falcor]

Hats the z guys problem???
haha
He needs to get LAID XD

[Kasnia]

Hats the z guys problem???
haha
He needs to get LAID XD

Idk. I think he probably hasn't found love. But hey, that doesn't mean it's a bad thing. Some people feel like they HAVE to be in a relationship, and that they're in love everytime they're in one (which is rarely the case), because they're so lonely and need someone to make them happy. I think it's better to stay single until you realize and can make yourself happy before you get into a relationship,that way you're not depending on them.

[Falcor]

Yeah, like, I love chuck, but im not in love with him.
We still get tipsy and have some fun every now and then XD

[ItsAPoorlyKeptSecret]

Cute, but you are experiencing attraction. Do you honestly believe in some magical force boding two humans?!!? There are people who think god talks to them when they kneel down and fold their hands. You can trick your mind into believing anything you want. The fact of the matter is, scientist know damn well why we are attracted to each other. Surprisingly, nowhere in the reports is magic mentioned.

CUTE!?! Look ass you dont kno what i am talkin bout so dont go tryin to tell me what it is i feel! First off maybe when i frist met him i was somewhat attracted to him, but to be honestly a closer look at hima nd he wasnt that all hot but it was the person i got to kno that i liked and looks dont matter anymore, never really did but just saying. And i didnt trick my mind into anything, if anything i been against any sort of relationship witht he guy, til oneday it just hit me to get over myself cause there is no fighting how i feel and that if i never see him again for the rest of my life i kno i loved him, also take note that the time of this revalation i hadnt seen him for 2 years, and talked to him on the phone for like 1-2 months. So now tell me how if it was just "attraction" or a "mind trick" that i could just one day minding my own buisness when all of a sudden it just all clicked into place?

Yea So Just Shut Up and Dont Comment to me anymore!

Idk. I think he probably hasn't found love. But hey, that doesn't mean it's a bad thing. Some people feel like they HAVE to be in a relationship, and that they're in love everytime they're in one (which is rarely the case), because they're so lonely and need someone to make them happy. I think it's better to stay single until you realize and can make yourself happy before you get into a relationship,that way you're not depending on them.


Well said. But sad that most people need to find this out on thier own, and some just never do, or even come close.

[Zamato Elite]

Idk. I think he probably hasn't found love. But hey, that doesn't mean it's a bad thing. Some people feel like they HAVE to be in a relationship, and that they're in love everytime they're in one (which is rarely the case), because they're so lonely and need someone to make them happy. I think it's better to stay single until you realize and can make yourself happy before you get into a relationship,that way you're not depending on them.

I haven't found love because it doesn't exist. I prefer scientific explanations, not speculations from 3000 year old literature. Cut the "literature-world" act. I'll keep the 'door to reality' open for when you eventually decide to join me.

I have been laid. Actually several times. It wasn't untill after a lot of "getting laid" and a lot of relationships did I realize that there is no magical force bonding me to another person. The only reason why I, and everyone els, chooses to even engage with the opposite sex is for the act of sex itself. Otherwise, we would just participate in friendships, which are an attraction based relationship on an emotional level, rather then a physical.

You're belief in love is a similar type of delusion to believing an unexplainable being talks to you when you get on your knees and fold your hands. It's all self conceived. Between the two of us, I'm more in touch with myself. I haven't let 3000 year old literature define my emotions.

[Kasnia]

Whatever dude. Some people like feeling incredibly happy by being with another person. They feel like the other person completes themself in a way. You don't NEED someone to be happy, but it is nice to be with someone who cares for you the way you care for them.
And someone mentioned it as a type of obsession, which can also be true.

[Zamato Elite]

CUTE!?! Look ass you dont kno what i am talkin bout so dont go tryin to tell me what it is i feel! First off maybe when i frist met him i was somewhat attracted to him, but to be honestly a closer look at hima nd he wasnt that all hot but it was the person i got to kno that i liked and looks dont matter anymore, never really did but just saying. And i didnt trick my mind into anything, if anything i been against any sort of relationship witht he guy, til oneday it just hit me to get over myself cause there is no fighting how i feel and that if i never see him again for the rest of my life i kno i loved him, also take note that the time of this revalation i hadnt seen him for 2 years, and talked to him on the phone for like 1-2 months. So now tell me how if it was just "attraction" or a "mind trick" that i could just one day minding my own buisness when all of a sudden it just all clicked into place?

Yea So Just Shut Up and Dont Comment to me anymore!




Well said. But sad that most people need to find this out on thier own, and some just never do, or even come close.

Ok, so you subscribe to the notion of magic. Fantastic. I can tell the human race is maturing quite well. /sarcasm

Maybe one day you will grow up and come to terms with your inner self. Until then, enjoy living in your self deluded fantasy land.

[Zamato Elite]

Whatever dude. Some people like feeling incredibly happy by being with another person. They feel like the other person completes themself in a way. You don't NEED someone to be happy, but it is nice to be with someone who cares for you the way you care for them.
And someone mentioned it as a type of obsession, which can also be true.

I know what you are saying, but that is attraction, not magic. One can be obsessed with anything. I was obsessed with Call of Duty 4 for a very long time. I am not doubting for a second someone can have a similar type of obsession with an another human being.

You are confusing reality with comfort. Self deluding yourself to create a more conformable environment is the main reason why false religions are able to flourish. These false notions create an artificial sense of comfort, which advances the human race is no shape or form.

[Kasnia]

Who ever said I said anything about magic? I know that love isn't magic. Some people may describe it as "magical" but I don't take it literally.

[Zamato Elite]

Who ever said I said anything about magic? I know that love isn't magic. Some people may describe it as "magical" but I don't take it literally.

It depends on how you define "Love." I've seen you, along with others use it in the context of magical.

If you are referring to love in a non-magical context, then you are experiencing obsession. Obsession can be experienced with just about anything, the opposite sex included.

[ItsAPoorlyKeptSecret]

Just because your lumpin love in with religion doesnt make then even close to the same catagory.

For 1.) Not into religion, you can go look into enlightented forum for more info on that.
2. When did i say anything bout magic? fuck magic? I'm talkin bout a really feeling something that nothing can touch that i can feel physically not with my entire body and not in a sexual way but like the way you feel your lungs inhaling and exhaling.
and 3. What Did I Say Bout Commenting to me goddamnit!!! haha

anyways yea so religion duh is bullshit, Love on the way your lookin at it like its some thing that you just think bout and believe on faith is not what i am about, but like when you catch the flu or a cold, you dont think "oh my its all in my head doesnt exsist" (remember i am talkin bout the feelin not like technical virus inside our body), but anyway thats the same with love you can feel it when its real. Just the ones who are despret to find it and a bit delusional are the ones who you should be giving your speeches to

[Zamato Elite]

Just because your lumpin love in with religion doesnt make then even close to the same catagory.

For 1.) Not into religion, you can go look into enlightented forum for more info on that.
2. When did i say anything bout magic? fuck magic? I'm talkin bout a really feeling something that nothing can touch that i can feel physically not with my entire body and not in a sexual way but like the way you feel your lungs inhaling and exhaling.
and 3. What Did I Say Bout Commenting to me goddamnit!!! haha

anyways yea so religion duh is bullshit, Love on the way your lookin at it like its some thing that you just think bout and believe on faith is not what i am about, but like when you catch the flu or a cold, you dont think "oh my its all in my head doesnt exsist" (remember i am talkin bout the feelin not like technical virus inside our body), but anyway thats the same with love you can feel it when its real. Just the ones who are despret to find it and a bit delusional are the ones who you should be giving your speeches to

Ohh ok, because the way you all are using the word "love", I could have easily confused it for an actual REAL state of mind. Now I understand it's a blanket term used to describe a clinical obsession with another human being. Just don't expect this "love" (I.E. Obsession) convince you that you're so called "lover" won't leave you after his sexual needs are fulfilled.

[Zamato Elite]

To be cynical is to be realistic. You're lover will leave you eventually, unless you both delude yourself to the point where you both actually believe sexual intercourse requires some degree of "commitment" or "love."

There seems to be a pattern present concerning relationships in our culture:

Meet-->Wait a week, then kiss--->Wait a few months, then say you "love" each other (If you say you love him or her to early, it's considered creepy, when In true nature, to be obsessed with anyone after any span of time can constitute as creepy)--->then have sex--->Begin to notice character flaws---->Fight over something stupid and break up.

Sometimes the break-up part can occur during any time during the relationship cycle. Sometimes the break-up never happens. In which case, both partners are confined to living a miserable existence of dullness and conservatism. For this very reason, I do not participate in relationships or try to convince myself that I am in "love" with someone. Where is the freedom? I prefer variability, and I also prefer not to allow our society's social expectations define my existence.

[Kasnia]

So... Love is a feeling. Correct? Since you're saying since love isn't real, does that mean that fear, hatred, happiness, anger, depression, and a whole huge list of other feelings aren't real?
And like someone else said earlier: what about love for you family and friends?

[Zamato Elite]

So... Love is a feeling. Correct? Since you're saying since love isn't real, does that mean that fear, hatred, happiness, anger, depression, and a whole huge list of other feelings aren't real?
And like someone else said earlier: what about love for you family and friends?

Love is a feeling. It's called obsession.

[a2thae]

Before I begin, this was at the fucking top of the forum before i posted. this is -NOT- a normal necro.

To be cynical is to be realistic. You're lover will leave you eventually, unless you both delude yourself to the point where you both actually believe sexual intercourse requires some degree of "commitment" or "love."

There seems to be a pattern present concerning relationships in our culture:

Meet-->Wait a week, then kiss--->Wait a few months, then say you "love" each other (If you say you love him or her to early, it's considered creepy, when In true nature, to be obsessed with anyone after any span of time can constitute as creepy)--->then have sex--->Begin to notice character flaws---->Fight over something stupid and break up.

Sometimes the break-up part can occur during any time during the relationship cycle. Sometimes the break-up never happens. In which case, both partners are confined to living a miserable existence of dullness and conservatism. For this very reason, I do not participate in relationships or try to convince myself that I am in "love" with someone. Where is the freedom? I prefer variability, and I also prefer not to allow our society's social expectations define my existence.

Being cynical, and being realistic are two COMPLETELY separate things. Being cynical is being biased, to be realistic one must opens ones mind to the realm of possibilities. The "lover" may leave eventually, but he wouldn't have been in "love" then now would he?

Who the fuck waits a week to kiss!?!! WHO I ask you WHO?!!, to use the "L" word after a few months is to use the "L" word lightly, and prematurely. Who waits the 3 months to have sex too? You don't break up because of character flaws. You break up because the attraction you had for a person has diminished on either one side of the party, or another, or both.

If the "break-up" cycle never happens, sometimes you will get what you described yes, but other times you will get two people who are genuinely in love with eachother, i will give you my definition of love below the quote below.

If you don't want expectations to define your existence, then fine bro, but that doesn't mean you have to take it to the extreme, and dismiss all of the expectations all together. For example most people are going to expect that you have some personal hygiene, and you wear clothes unless you are a nudist; in which case they would expect you to stick with your belief.

The freedom is in choosing the partner that you want to be with. Then the freedom ends to a certain extent unless your polygamous.

How do you know what to expect if you are expecting the unexpected but in doing that you expect the unexpected to be something you expect. Which is what your doing. My theory is that you expect by taking an extremist position you will piss off people, and get an unexpected response but you will know the general idea is to refute and flame you.

Or maybe you are just a douche, who knows.


Ohh ok, because the way you all are using the word "love", I could have easily confused it for an actual REAL state of mind. Now I understand it's a blanket term used to describe a clinical obsession with another human being. Just don't expect this "love" (I.E. Obsession) convince you that you're so called "lover" won't leave you after his sexual needs are fulfilled.

Love is a state of mind. Consider it somewhat of an "obsession" but no it is much more than that. Obsession doesn't even come close to describing the word. It is deeper in so many other dimensions which you would understand if you experienced it...i will do my best to explain.

An addictive rush of emotional chemicals is what attraction is. Now imagine attraction, amplify it by <insert big number> and being attracted both emotionally, and physically. This isn't a conscious thing, if it was we would all be in love with all of our friends. (Which you can argue you are, but not to the same extent, and definitely not physically...or emotionally attracted)

Subconsciously our instincts go crazy, and you can hardly control yourself. But you do, and when your with that person, you don't need sex, you just need to be with that person. Love is as much an emotional thing as it is a sexual thing. When you love someone, you can imagine growing old with them etc.

Love that is built on a strong foundation is hard to break, but the sad thing is if it is broken is nearly unrepairable.

Obsession isn't a good enough word.

Then again..I've been known to be a heartbreaker...oh well.

Also, in response to the sex is stupid thread--sex is awesome. fuck sittin around with your dick in your hands..

tis all.

[Zamato Elite]

Being cynical, and being realistic are two COMPLETELY separate things. Being cynical is being biased, to be realistic one must opens ones mind to the realm of possibilities. The "lover" may leave eventually, but he wouldn't have been in "love" then now would he?

Life is naturally crap. Most of human life is spent in servitude, submission, and misery. Not everything in life is bad, but about 90% of it is. It's kinda of hard to grasp what life really is because you probably live in a first world country. In this country you are sheltered in your safe little home from what life is truly like for 90% of the world.

Who the fuck waits a week to kiss!?!! WHO I ask you WHO?!!, to use the "L" word after a few months is to use the "L" word lightly, and prematurely. Who waits the 3 months to have sex too? You don't break up because of character flaws. You break up because the attraction you had for a person has diminished on either one side of the party, or another, or both.

My model was mostly referring to high school relationships. Of course the relationship model may adjust depending on age, location, ect. The fact of the matter is, we all abide by social norms when dealing with our friends, family, and "lovers."

If you don't want expectations to define your existence, then fine bro, but that doesn't mean you have to take it to the extreme, and dismiss all of the expectations all together. For example most people are going to expect that you have some personal hygiene, and you wear clothes unless you are a nudist; in which case they would expect you to stick with your belief.

You bring up a good point, but it is a Straw Man's argument. I choose not to conform to social norms when concerning relationships with other people or animals. Why must we fake our personality in public so we can be liked? Why must we "love" people a certain way? Why are there all these social rules we MUST follow? The answer to these questions is, we are very judgmental and nosy people. A community of people is constantly checking each other to make sure they follow the unwritten code of social engagement. Dictating other people's lives isn't just in the field of relationships, we also see it far too often in politics.

Or maybe you are just a douche, who knows.

Maybe I am.

Love is a state of mind. Consider it somewhat of an "obsession" but no it is much more than that. Obsession doesn't even come close to describing the word. It is deeper in so many other dimensions which you would understand if you experienced it...i will do my best to explain.

People have their own definition for the word, but at it's core, it's an obsession. Love, like most obsessions, is very unhealthy and leads a person to make extre***y stupid decisions. The reason why "love" is socially acceptable is because of thousands of years of fiction media (Books, Poems, Movies, ect.). We have actually bought into the fantasy that we created. Christianity/Bible is another fine example of fantasy stories taken too seriously.

An addictive rush of emotional chemicals is what attraction is. Now imagine attraction, amplify it by <insert big number> and being attracted both emotionally, and physically. This isn't a conscious thing, if it was we would all be in love with all of our friends. (Which you can argue you are, but not to the same extent, and definitely not physically...or emotionally attracted)

It's called addiction or obsession.

Love that is built on a strong foundation is hard to break, but the sad thing is if it is broken is nearly unrepairable.

Oh, it's repairable. We don't let ourselves repair it because we have deluded ourselves into believing love is some sort of code we must abide by. If our "lover" meets another person and say has sex with them, it's social norm to get mad at them and cease loving them. We always seem to love people when we meet them, but after a while, this "love" seem to hit the highroad. Problems arise, and we begin to get sick of our partner/s. What's the divorce rate in this country? 50%? A relationship is a mutual ownership of each other. In most cases, one person is getting the shorter end of the stick. It seems to take a while for people to realize whether they are actually benefiting from being property of other people. Usually the result is always the same, "No, I am not befitting."

Then again..I've been known to be a heartbreaker...oh well.

Then your emotions are talking, not your intelligence.

Also, in response to the sex is stupid thread--sex is awesome. fuck sittin around with your dick in your hands..

tis all.

No, it's not stupid. It's true. You are a person who is so deluded that you actually subscribe to the notion that "love"/obsession is healthy and completely natural. Your validity is nearly non-existent at this point.

[a2thae]

Life is naturally crap. Most of human life is spent in servitude, submission, and misery. Not everything in life is bad, but about 90% of it is. It's kinda of hard to grasp what life really is because you probably live in a first world country. In this country you are sheltered in your safe little home from what life is truly like for 90% of the world.

Hey dude, 3rd world countries do suck, but im talkin about where most of us live; in a first world country.

My model was mostly referring to high school relationships. Of course the relationship model may adjust depending on age, location, ect. The fact of the matter is, we all abide by social norms when dealing with our friends, family, and "lovers."

...There are some freaky people out there, who do some freaky things well outside of the social norm to express what you and I call "love"


You bring up a good point, but it is a Straw Man's argument. I choose not to conform to social norms when concerning relationships with other people or animals. Why must we fake our personality in public so we can be liked? Why must we "love" people a certain way? Why are there all these social rules we MUST follow? The answer to these questions is, we are very judgmental and nosy people. A community of people is constantly checking each other to make sure they follow the unwritten code of social engagement. Dictating other people's lives isn't just in the field of relationships, we also see it far too often in politics.

There is no law saying that you must express attraction in a certain way. While there are people who fake their personality to be liked, those people often revert to their same self, and once the female/male realizes that they were dating someone they liked because they had a "mask" on they will probably break up. Or they will like the innerperson as well.

No one is constantly checking on anyone to make sure they follow these "unwritten" rules, maybe some people are just paranoid, and think that they will be frowned upon if they don't do what everyone else is doing...

Your girlfriend can dictate your life a lil bit, giving you less free time to be with yourself than you normally would, but you can still retain a relative amount of freedom...just not with a different girl unless your polygamous.


People have their own definition for the word, but at it's core, it's an obsession. Love, like most obsessions, is very unhealthy and leads a person to make extre***y stupid decisions. The reason why "love" is socially acceptable is because of thousands of years of fiction media (Books, Poems, Movies, ect.). We have actually bought into the fantasy that we created. Christianity/Bible is another fine example of fantasy stories taken too seriously.

"Love" is unhealthy? Ha. It drives you. Think of it like this in a sport like soccer, you run until you can't run anymore. You've collapsed, and you're clawing at the ground moving forward. There is no possible way you can take another step...but something motivates you, and you DO take that step. "Love" is an addiction, and it is an obsession I will give you that part. But it is also much much more than that. Those "stupid decisions" you refer to are not "stupid" in the person making those decisions because "love" has elevated their top interest, and they see doing whatever they must to keep it as a great decision.

Why wouldn't you want to feel great, and help someone else feel great? An obsession with another person that is granted. Books, Poems, Movies etc. with love were probably inspired by a person who witnessed such things, or experienced it themselves, therefore it is indirectly not a fantasy. But reality except exaggerated.


It's called addiction or obsession.

Its called an emotion. It's not really a choice. But I supposed you can be obsessed with it, or addicted to it.

I would argue that you can become "obsessed," and have "addiction," with everything in our daily lives. Take breathing for example. Why do we breathe? Do we have a choice? somewhat, but subconsciously we are "obsessed," with living, we are "addicted," to oxygen. What about moving? Are we obsessed with moving the body around? Or obsessed with thinking? Or obsessed with the heart pumping? (all subconsciously of course) The point is, you can't control any of these things, yet they seem to happen. Therefore I use your apparent logic, and we are obsessed, and addicted to all of those things, and thus they are unhealthy.

We must stop breathing, stop thinking, stop our heart from pumping, stop from moving to become healthy....not


Oh, it's repairable. We don't let ourselves repair it because we have deluded ourselves into believing love is some sort of code we must abide by. If our "lover" meets another person and say has sex with them, it's social norm to get mad at them and cease loving them. We always seem to love people when we meet them, but after a while, this "love" seem to hit the highroad. Problems arise, and we begin to get sick of our partner/s. What's the divorce rate in this country? 50%? A relationship is a mutual ownership of each other. In most cases, one person is getting the shorter end of the stick. It seems to take a while for people to realize whether they are actually benefiting from being property of other people. Usually the result is always the same, "No, I am not befitting."

Its non repairable for the very reason that you won't allow yourself to repair it. If you won't allow something to be repaired, then I believe it is nonrepairable (just because you won't allow anything to be done to it). Why is anything nonrepairable? Because you can't do anything to fix it. If you won't allowed it to be repaired, then you can't do anything to fix it, and thus it is unrepairable.

If another person had sex with my "lover" (which for the sake of the argument exists), I would realize that she wouldn't have been my lover anyway, and cease to "love" her for that very reason that she may have "loved" me, but not enough to restrain her basic urges, and to allow her to reject other dudes. I would also be pissed at the dude.

Mutual ownership of eachother? To some extent, but not FULL ownership of eachother. Closer to a mutual respect, somewhat of ownership, and of mutual feelings. Mainly feelings.

Then your emotions are talking, not your intelligence.

Not really. I've broken up with with girls who were "beginning to fall in love" with me from because she had HIV to she was too clingy, and I knew I would regret staying with her. Tell me that isn't using intellect. I told her that if I was ready for a committed relationship, I'd stay with her, but if fate determines we meet again blah blah blah. But I did sort of mean it.

A lot of girls believe in the "it'll happen if it's meant to be" stuff....I personally don't believe in pre-determined fate or destiny and all that jazz.

No, it's not stupid. It's true. You are a person who is so deluded that you actually subscribe to the notion that "love"/obsession is healthy and completely natural. Your validity is nearly non-existent at this point.

You are a person so deluded you refuse to accept that "love" is much more than an obsession or addiction. It is somewhat that, but more on different dimensions.

Your extreme bias reduces your validity to near nothingness.

[Zamato Elite]

Hey dude, 3rd world countries do suck, but im talkin about where most of us live; in a first world country.


Even still, life is pretty crappy when we think of it. Life is still mostly filled with misery. We choose to look at it optimistically, but that is just a mask we put on.


There is no law saying that you must express attraction in a certain way. While there are people who fake their personality to be liked, those people often revert to their same self, and once the female/male realizes that they were dating someone they liked because they had a "mask" on they will probably break up. Or they will like the innerperson as well.


That's true, there is no law. But most common folk follow a certain social norm, and expect the same from their partners. But if both partners are down to earth and real, then there may be no social norm to abide by. From my experiences, this case is incredibly rare. Most girls are deluded fascist bitches. But these relationship laws are created and enforced by ourselves. There is no police enforcing them (Well, in the USA that seems to be changing).

No one is constantly checking on anyone to make sure they follow these "unwritten" rules, maybe some people are just paranoid, and think that they will be frowned upon if they don't do what everyone else is doing...


Most of these rules we follow completely unintentionally and unknowingly. If you sit down and really think about how you act around girls, and the lengths you go to stay with girls, it may amaze you.

Your girlfriend can dictate your life a lil bit, giving you less free time to be with yourself than you normally would, but you can still retain a relative amount of freedom...just not with a different girl unless your polygamous.


But what about the breakup process? What about the stupid commitments your will have to participate in? The lists go on. Relationships may be restrictive or free, it depends on the girl or guy. Most relationships are in the restrictive category. That is why I prefer Friend-with-Benefits. FWB conveniently bypasses all the bullshit that comes neatly packaged with relationships.


"Love" is unhealthy? Ha. It drives you. Think of it like this in a sport like soccer, you run until you can't run anymore. You've collapsed, and you're clawing at the ground moving forward. There is no possible way you can take another step...but something motivates you, and you DO take that step. "Love" is an addiction, and it is an obsession I will give you that part. But it is also much much more than that. Those "stupid decisions" you refer to are not "stupid" in the person making those decisions because "love" has elevated their top interest, and they see doing whatever they must to keep it as a great decision.


Too much of anything is unhealthy. I don't think "love" drove you to continue playing soccer. I'm nearly 100% sure there is a scientific way to explain why you continued playing, and i bet it doesn't include the word "love."

Why wouldn't you want to feel great, and help someone else feel great? An obsession with another person that is granted. Books, Poems, Movies etc. with love were probably inspired by a person who witnessed such things, or experienced it themselves, therefore it is indirectly not a fantasy. But reality except exaggerated.


Oh please, stop pretending like you actually care about your partner. Humans are naturally greedy self centered people. We need incentives to do certain things. The only reason why you "feel great" by caring for another person, is because you're one step closer to getting some ass. It's nothing to be ashamed of, it's human nature from top to bottom.

I would argue that you can become "obsessed," and have "addiction," with everything in our daily lives. Take breathing for example. Why do we breathe? Do we have a choice? somewhat, but subconsciously we are "obsessed," with living, we are "addicted," to oxygen. What about moving? Are we obsessed with moving the body around? Or obsessed with thinking? Or obsessed with the heart pumping? (all subconsciously of course) The point is, you can't control any of these things, yet they seem to happen. Therefore I use your apparent logic, and we are obsessed, and addicted to all of those things, and thus they are unhealthy.


Breathing is natural instinct. Attraction is also a natural instinct. But calling it love, is just plain stupidity. Let's not confuse attraction, with love/obsession.

If another person had sex with my "lover" (which for the sake of the argument exists), I would realize that she wouldn't have been my lover anyway, and cease to "love" her for that very reason that she may have "loved" me, but not enough to restrain her basic urges, and to allow her to reject other dudes. I would also be pissed at the dude.


So let me take this little bit and spend some time on this, because this concept of ownership vs. relationships is something I have pondered greatly. Why must one human be in "love" with only one human? Why can't we all just share each other? If you are in a relationship with someone, and your partner cheats, you would most likely get VERY upset. This is because your property was stolen by another guy or girl. Of course, we don't view our partners as property per say, but we definitely have a sense of ownership and entitlement. As I have said, I prefer friends with benefits and one night stands simply because that ownership and entitlement elements aren't present.

Mutual ownership of eachother? To some extent, but not FULL ownership of eachother. Closer to a mutual respect, somewhat of ownership, and of mutual feelings. Mainly feelings.


Feelings come with ownership. You own a Xbox-->The Xbox provides you with feelings. You own a girl-->the girl provides you with feelings.

A lot of girls believe in the "it'll happen if it's meant to be" stuff....I personally don't believe in pre-determined fate or destiny and all that jazz.


Thank god. We are making headway.

Your extreme bias reduces your validity to near nothingness.

There is no more bias then what you have.

[a2thae]

Even still, life is pretty crappy when we think of it. Life is still mostly filled with misery. We choose to look at it optimistically, but that is just a mask we put on.

Life is pretty good for most of us if we look at how shitty life can get. A spider can lay eggs under your skin. You could die anywhere any time. (not saying death is a bad thing, just a lot of people fear death) You can get AIDS, you can be depressed, hell if your living like an average person, life isn't all misery, it's just tedious and *****g for a lot of people.



That's true, there is no law. But most common folk follow a certain social norm, and expect the same from their partners. But if both partners are down to earth and real, then there may be no social norm to abide by. From my experiences, this case is incredibly rare. Most girls are deluded fascist bitches. But these relationship laws are created and enforced by ourselves. There is no police enforcing them (Well, in the USA that seems to be changing).

I dispute that most girls are deluded fascist bitches. A lot of girls can come off like that in rejection, and people can take it to the extreme..but I don't think that MOST girls are deluded fascist bitches. Maybe some of them..

There are all kinds of types of girls such as(listing a few but are many more)

1. Dude chicks: tomboys, like extreme sports, might be able to kick your ass.(not talkin trannys here)

2. Party girl: Fine--until you try to get her into a relationship

3. Controller: very insecure, and well...controlling

4. Ugly, Big, and Proud: <---explains itself

5. Drama Queen: Makes a big deal out of everything possible, she can stress you out.

6. The "Feminazi": Angry at all men in general, and takes it on you and everyone else.

7. Emotional Clingy-type: Opens up to you with all her problems very easily, and as you can guess that can be a problem.

8. Dingytypes: Not too bright, sort of dingy

9. Teh Librarian: Not the greatest socializer and is, well can be really tough to relate to.

10. Romantic: The girl that falls deeply deeply in love with ya.

11. Church Girl: ...Just know what is gonna happen with this one

12. Gold Digger: Manipulative, can't always tell at the beginning

13. The Cool Gal: like 1 out of 10 gals will be a cool gal. Someone with her shit together, knows how to laugh, and doesn't have many issues.

A combination of those, and whatnot. Every personality is different, just a broad outline for ya.

Life isn't miserable for people who are success-minded. You know, the "Success is coming, and I will go through hell to get it."


Most of these rules we follow completely unintentionally and unknowingly. If you sit down and really think about how you act around girls, and the lengths you go to stay with girls, it may amaze you.

I act the same around dudes as I do girls, except I don't hit on dudes..The lengths we go through(my "partner" and I) only test the bond we have mutually forged.

But what about the breakup process? What about the stupid commitments your will have to participate in? The lists go on. Relationships may be restrictive or free, it depends on the girl or guy. Most relationships are in the restrictive category. That is why I prefer Friend-with-Benefits. FWB conveniently bypasses all the bullshit that comes neatly packaged with relationships.

If I get dumped, sure I'm pissed for a day, but then I'm on my way because I know that the girl wasn't right for me then, or we weren't right for eachother etc. Just go find a different girl. If you're free enough to still talk to other gals, and flirt around a little bit, then you are in a pretty free relationship. But the relationship has to be stable to allow that.


Too much of anything is unhealthy. I don't think "love" drove you to continue playing soccer. I'm nearly 100% sure there is a scientific way to explain why you continued playing, and i bet it doesn't include the word "love."

The soccer thing was an analogy on how things can drive you to do things you previously weren't capable. Which can lead to living a better life with more confidence. "Love" is better than taking that step you previously couldn't take. I never meant to say "love" drove you to take the step in soccer, I meant to imply, that "love" can push you beyond your limits in a good way.

Oh please, stop pretending like you actually care about your partner. Humans are naturally greedy self centered people. We need incentives to do certain things. The only reason why you "feel great" by caring for another person, is because you're one step closer to getting some ass. It's nothing to be ashamed of, it's human nature from top to bottom.

That is a primal instinct, but we humans as intelligent beings can create other reasons to care about people. Intelligence even subconsciously is wonderful...but you seem to agree with Freud where everything is subliminal which can't really be disproven...But "love" isn't all about sex.

Consciously, I believe I do care about my "partner," as do I think I do subconsciously as well. Think of it if in no other terms like this: You care about your FWB because she gives you sex. If something happens to her then you get no sex. Therefore you care about her and her well being;if only for sex. (I assume you had sex with your FWB) But it isn't exactly "love," yet you still care about her.

Human thought may be abstract, but in human thought we care about those close to us for some reason which may or may not benefit you.

I do ask you, "why do people donate to charities?" They receive nothing of benefit, I know an atheist who donates to charities because he "cares" about orphans, so don't use that whole karma/you look good in "god's" eye thing.

Breathing is natural instinct. Attraction is also a natural instinct. But calling it love, is just plain stupidity. Let's not confuse attraction, with love/obsession.

Immense attraction IS apart of "love", that's what I've been saying. I've also been saying reasons for why people love, and how love is much more than obsession and addiction.


So let me take this little bit and spend some time on this, because this concept of ownership vs. relationships is something I have pondered greatly. Why must one human be in "love" with only one human? Why can't we all just share each other? If you are in a relationship with someone, and your partner cheats, you would most likely get VERY upset. This is because your property was stolen by another guy or girl. Of course, we don't view our partners as property per say, but we definitely have a sense of ownership and entitlement. As I have said, I prefer friends with benefits and one night stands simply because that ownership and entitlement elements aren't present.

Mormons "love" more than one person. Polygamy, look it up, not all people are in monogamous (sometimes monotonous) relationships.

As for the ownership thing/entitlement thing, i sort of agree with you on that, but that's not all a relationship is. The chinese tried "sharing eachother" they never married, they just fucked (as stated somewhere around here) but look at their population. The population would skyrocket if we all "shared eachother" So many pregnancies....and abortions etc. Also everyone would eventually get HIV, and other nasty STDs. Bad idea.


Feelings come with ownership. You own a Xbox-->The Xbox provides you with feelings. You own a girl-->the girl provides you with feelings.

The Xbox doesn't provide you with feelings, you manipulating the xbox to do something, and either doing it wrong or write provides you with good/bad feelings. Things you don't own provide you with feelings also, your friends, your enemies, your family etc. Using your logic, everything provides you with "feelings" whether it is just being apathetic, or being extre***y passionate about one thing. If one inanimate object can provide you with "feelings," then all of them can.

Thank god. We are making headway.

I've always believed in no predetermined destiny/fate. I just like to debate both sides of it.

There is no more bias then what you have.

At least, I accepted the fact that "love" involves obsession and addiction, you have yet to accept that it is much more than that.

All emotions are complex, and "love" is an emotion aswell. If you argue otherwise, you would argue happiness, and sadness/depression don't exist either.

[VCTR]

ive got to know nothing be fore i try to love again

[mega_duece]

love gives me gas

[a2thae]

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