Doomed.

[exial]

We think of arranging the world to our liking. So we map the land and draw invisible lines across it. Claiming ownership simply becuz we can draw a picture of it. The plants that grow and the beasts that rove, we mark as our own, claiming what lives today, but what might grow tomorrow, to do with as we please. Then in our conceit and aggression, we wage wars and slay one another over the invisible lines we have imagined on the worlds face. The world doesn’t belong to men. Men belong to the world. We will not own the earth that eventually our bodies will become, nor will it recall the name we once gave it. All civilizations will fall, and be replaced. Such as the mighty Nubian empire which was thought to last till the end of the worlds days. If fell and has been replaced. The religious groups that seek power will build mighty army’s and soon the religious conflicts will meet head on in a massacre, each religion seeking to overpower the next. New Civilizations will arise and fall. But of course humanity is too arrogant a race to make peace amongst themselves. For there will always be people who seek to gain power over others. Humanity has been doomed to repeat its mistakes…

[numerator-91]

whered you copy/paste that from?

[ramalamafafafa]

I fully agree with exial here.

[RAV]

ya it is pretty good. But I'm still with num here. Who wrote that, I don't think you copied and pasted it because you spelled because wrong "becuz" and rove... anyways who thought of this?

[itismesaj]

For there will always be people who seek to gain power over others.

Indeed. That is the only thing I really agree with. John Locke stated that, until the State of Nature is reattained, there will always be, as you say, "people who seek to gain power over others."

[exial]

whered you copy/paste that from?

actually i wrote that.

[RAV]

all of it?? Because there is some stuff that I know from many philosophers not exact quotes that I remember but same basis of ideas

[itismesaj]

There's no blip about it in a Google search, so he's telling the truth.

[A Deo et Rege]

That is the one great flaw of the human condition--greed. We for some reason always need to have more, and no matter how much more we get it is never enough. Then when we have gathered all that is not claimed by someone else we turn to war, and take what we want from others who in our eyes don't deserve it. We as humans are doomed to repeat our mistakes, but that is why we have history. The study of history is the best tool for the advancement of humanity because the only way we can move forward is to make sure we don't repeat the mistakes of our ancestors. This is why I believe that anyone who thinks history is pointless should be taken out behind a shed and beat to death because it is people like those that will lead to the downfall of humanity.

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<Deo>
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[exial]

Yes. I also believe the solution to our imminent downfall rests in history. In history we have the chance to see where we (humanity) have gone wrong in the documented history of the world. We are at a advantage since we have the ability to fix the wrongs and mistakes our generation in now faced with. And there will always be people who have a problems with history that doesnt mean it will lead to the downfall of humanity deo. Yes i believe that in history we have the chance to advance through this world of greed we are currently living in, but the answer isnt in history alone. Every generation of humanity have a unique and different way of living and therefore there own beliefs and mistakes. So will our era be recorded in books and manuscripts.
"In this way the community may regain its health, and we will hope that future historians will explain the morbid symptoms of present-day society as the childhood ailments of an aspiring humanity, due entirely to the excessive speed at which civilization was advancing."
A. E.

[RAV]

We think of arranging the world to our liking. So we map the land and draw invisible lines across it. Claiming ownership simply becuz we can draw a picture of it. The plants that grow and the beasts that rove, we mark as our own, claiming what lives today, but what might grow tomorrow, to do with as we please. Then in our conceit and aggression, we wage wars and slay one another over the invisible lines we have imagined on the worlds face. The world doesn’t belong to men. Men belong to the world. We will not own the earth that eventually our bodies will become, nor will it recall the name we once gave it. All civilizations will fall, and be replaced. Such as the mighty Nubian empire which was thought to last till the end of the worlds days. If fell and has been replaced. The religious groups that seek power will build mighty army’s and soon the religious conflicts will meet head on in a massacre, each religion seeking to overpower the next. New Civilizations will arise and fall. But of course humanity is too arrogant a race to make peace amongst themselves. For there will always be people who seek to gain power over others. Humanity has been doomed to repeat its mistakes…

The bold are things I remember hearing from others, maybe not in the exact same words but he did get a lot of his ideas from some famous philosophers

[exial]

RAV if you have something useful to share in this thread then share it. Otherwise stop polluting this thread by trying to validate my Posts. Most of my Philosophical beliefs come from the most famous philosophers of all time, but everything i write is my own beliefs/theorys. So if you have something useful to say then say it.

[RAV]

sorry I was just trying to get who you were basing your beliefs off of, and quite frankly you never answered me

[itismesaj]

When Alexander saw saw the breadth of his domain, he wept, for there were no more worlds to conquer.

That about sums up human greed.

[KdM]

lol, another thread that i guess i'm reviving.

We think of arranging the world to our liking. So we map the land and draw invisible lines across it. Claiming ownership simply becuz we can draw a picture of it. The plants that grow and the beasts that rove, we mark as our own, claiming what lives today, but what might grow tomorrow, to do with as we please. Then in our conceit and aggression, we wage wars and slay one another over the invisible lines we have imagined on the worlds face. The world doesn’t belong to men. Men belong to the world. We will not own the earth that eventually our bodies will become, nor will it recall the name we once gave it. All civilizations will fall, and be replaced. Such as the mighty Nubian empire which was thought to last till the end of the worlds days. If fell and has been replaced. The religious groups that seek power will build mighty army’s and soon the religious conflicts will meet head on in a massacre, each religion seeking to overpower the next. New Civilizations will arise and fall. But of course humanity is too arrogant a race to make peace amongst themselves. For there will always be people who seek to gain power over others. Humanity has been doomed to repeat its mistakes…
I agree, we're fighting over land/oil/diamonds..all of that belong to the earth. so we slay, sacrafice many lives just to achieve something that never was or ever will be ours..and even if there was some spectacular way of the earth's oil/land/treasures belonging to someone..hello? we are mortals you know..like death is just round the corner..so what I'm trying to say is, what's the point in loosing so much for so little? simple, there is no point.
:D

[exial]

lol, another thread that i guess i'm reviving.


I agree, we're fighting over land/oil/diamonds..all of that belong to the earth. so we slay, sacrafice many lives just to achieve something that never was or ever will be ours..and even if there was some spectacular way of the earth's oil/land/treasures belonging to someone..hello? we are mortals you know..like death is just round the corner..so what I'm trying to say is, what's the point in loosing so much for so little? simple, there is no point.
:D

well said.