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crazyassmetalhead
September 18th, 2008, 06:30 PM
bored and just wondering who prefers what kind of knife and why......and for what purpose and such........and overall i guess

the poll can be for your favorite type of knife overall and if you wanna mention specific knives for specific tasks whatever.........

i haven't totally thought this out but this forum is getting kinda *****g.

so favorite knife i guess........model/type...favorite knife for specialized tasks.....

so far my favorite knife that I own is my buck 110, folding lockback hunting knife.
i just think it looks kickass, and it's very solid and durable
not a very fast opener but i have other knives for that

but i like all the knives i have more or less, the ones i don't like i usually end up breaking when i do stupid shit with them or i sell them

alp
September 18th, 2008, 08:35 PM
I picked other my favorite is Swiss Army Knife. Especially Wengers.

deathlord888
September 18th, 2008, 10:04 PM
i like fixed blade for looks and lock back for carrying around

onthejon55
September 18th, 2008, 10:08 PM
my favorite knife is a 12 inch colt tanto fixed blade its got a solid aluminum handle so even if you dont feel like stabbing someone you could beat the shit out of them with it cuz it weighs like 3 pounds :) oh and its only use is killing people which i havent got to use it for...yet

Ninjaofdeth
September 19th, 2008, 12:26 AM
i voted fixed blade cause fixed blades are way the fuck more durable. especcially full tang fixed blades. i have a sog jungle primative fixed blade that is SICK looking but is only 420 steel (its the chinese import SOG sidecompany thing)

i'm going to get a SOG SEAL Pup elite in about 4 days...well i'ma order it in about 4 days. AUS 8 steel, zytel handle, kraton sheath (think scabbard), fuckin solid...

http://sogknives.com/store/E37T.html

second favorite would have to be assisted openers...i have a SOG trident, which is fantastic. look at the collection thread to see pics

Maggotsfriend
September 21st, 2008, 05:20 AM
I have to say that the knife that i go for is a fixed bladed diving knife its reliable and practical except for easily concealing it but i keep mine strapped round my calf. A blade never jams and never strays to disapoint unless its by personal fault

Recon313
September 21st, 2008, 03:13 PM
USMC Ka Bar, bitch is beast.

CHEETZzz
September 24th, 2008, 04:42 PM
USMC Ka Bar, bitch is beast.

that is my favorite knife as well, they're flawless.

blacktears
September 24th, 2008, 05:11 PM
Butterfly, by far is my favorite, it's stealthy and sleek design allows for a silent and inconspicuous kill.
I have had much training via MMA and army training with flailing weapons, numchucks and butterfly knives being my specialty.

Pactum
October 1st, 2008, 09:27 PM
i'm a huge knife fan, and it's really hard for me to pick a "favorite"

but if someone put a knife to my throat and forced me to pick a favorite they would have to be:
- Laguiole (french shepard knife)
- any kind of krys blades (dunno how to spell that haha)

claymore
October 5th, 2008, 08:47 PM
i think butterfly knifes are pointless if ur getting robed your not going to reach in your pocket and flip it out that is why i chose fixed

crazyassmetalhead
October 5th, 2008, 09:20 PM
i would if that's what i was carrying, shit i used to carry one in my back pocket upright for such an occasion (but if im getting robbed more likely than not i'm going to go for what they're using against me 1st, but if they know what they're doing i'll probably just politely give them my shit and not die)........
butterfly knife can be faster to deploy than a fixed blade depending on where you carry it and such

usually more fun to play with though, but i got mine under my pillow (the shitty one in the collection thread) because i can get it in a usable postion faster than my sheath knife.....

claymore
October 5th, 2008, 09:45 PM
i agree they ARE fun to play with but my fathers bowie knie stays in its sheth without a button to keep it in but all u have to do is pull on it and it comes out so i could get it out real fast

crazyassmetalhead
October 5th, 2008, 10:00 PM
ya but more likely than not you can't walk around with it concealed and maintain easy access.... the only reason i didn't pick fixed blade is because the only one i have isn't all that great (and the sheath sucks hence the whole above post)........whatever, honestly it's all about personal preference and the situation

idk i'm rambling pretty much

xavix
October 5th, 2008, 10:01 PM
i'm gonna agree with the other two, the ka-bar is amazing from the moment you first hold it, don't own one myself, but borrowed one once and am getting one asap.

dwalsh
October 6th, 2008, 01:27 AM
its spelled kriss

techtiger
October 12th, 2008, 01:46 AM
this is what is in my pocket all the time... i usualy carry a pistol for the protection. but as far as speed i can get this thing out just as fast as i can a fixed, i mean my switches are faster but its more of an intimidation factor im going for with the butterflys. oh heres a hint if your going to get a fly make sure it uses screws of some sort much smoother and you can retighten them because the shit does wear down after you play with them for awhile, the fasteners suck!!!!http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/8745/picture0095qx3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/picture0095qx3.jpg/1/w640.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img442/picture0095qx3.jpg/1/)

ps i have this one in the collection one with some of my other knifes

Exploding_viper
October 12th, 2008, 02:50 PM
i like butterfly knives and spring knives for their speed

hydromonster
October 12th, 2008, 07:07 PM
i had a 25 dollar butterfly knife
but it broke after about a week from flipping it
so i ordered a benchmade ...its taken over a month in back order though

techtiger
October 13th, 2008, 12:40 AM
yea that one right there is my baby, it was expensive but so worth it... just flipping it you can feal the dif.. its so smooth

duckiemonster
October 13th, 2008, 12:46 AM
well well well...being the proud owner of more than 50 knives and swords, i would have to say the ones i dont own yet are the most appealing. e.g. switchblade, butterfly, stilletto, all the shit thats illegal in california (my state is a faggot) but overall favorite is something with an edge, preferably full tang or at least solid, and very durable. haha thats just about everything right? lol fun shit

hydromonster
October 13th, 2008, 08:53 AM
it looks nice

where would you reconmend as a good place to learn flipping?
ive been just watching videos on you tube to learn the basics

techtiger
October 14th, 2008, 01:24 AM
all depends on what tricks you are trying to learn if your trying to learn the more advanced stuff like switching hands or the finger rolls i learned those outside on the grass cus your going to drop it like 95 percent of the time when you learn, and if you do it inside you will end up with holes in the wall and blood on your carpet and it just sucks, so if you have a yard do it there(just make sure the grass is short cus it sucks if its not hahah learned that the hard way) if you dont have a yard i improvised and broke down cardboard boxes in my basement so when i dropped it the tip didnt get fucked up

Hellbilly
October 21st, 2008, 05:37 PM
Well, my favorite knives would be Bowie, and historic swords/fighting/bayonettes

im also partial to the trench spike.

thornbird
October 23rd, 2008, 01:31 AM
Throughout all this reading i keep hearing the quote off "Crocodile Dundee"

Mick, give him your wallet.
What for?
He's got a knife.
That's not a knife. [Dundee draws a large Bowie knife] *That's* a knife.
[Dundee slashes the teen mugger's jacket. He and his friends run away]
Just kids having fun. You alright?

HAH

pyro_davey
October 24th, 2008, 07:13 PM
i like butterfly knive and fixed blades i got a few k-bars and used to own a few butterfly knives they were pretty damn good

crazyassmetalhead
October 24th, 2008, 07:31 PM
i feel like an ass............spelled switchblade "swithblade" and just now realized it.....

o well

TennisBomber
October 24th, 2008, 11:35 PM
Butterfly knife, because it is fun to mess around with and occupies your time, which is no reason to enjoy a specific knife, but that is one reason. I do recommend NOT buying them in the border cities of Mexico, for they will break within mere weeks.

Ninjaofdeth
October 25th, 2008, 01:22 AM
just got myself a SOG SEAL Pup Elite with a kydex sheath and TiNi coating. ill get pics up hopefully by sunday night

Karusian
October 25th, 2008, 02:49 PM
I´m a pretty big guy but still athletic(some may call it skinny), so i realy like the Bowie knife of mine.
Large and heavy enough to swing and a nice length for stabbing:D

I also fancy the swiss-army knife for versatility

hydromonster
October 25th, 2008, 04:41 PM
thats true
nothing is more useful than a swiss or a multitool
i dont know about you guys, but i dont stab people much...and really dont need a fighting knife

Krimzin
October 25th, 2008, 10:14 PM
My favorite knife is a knuckleduster/trench spike. Here is a pic. It's freaking flawless It's handle is brass knuckles with a 7 inch steel blade. Freaking beast! Check out the pic!

http://www.keepshooting.com/productimages/selfdefense/fistgear/trench-knife-brass-knucklesbig2.jpg

thornbird
October 26th, 2008, 03:33 AM
Krimzin, i may just have to agree with you on that.

that has got to be my new favourite. i have always liked brass knuckles, and with a knife as well. SA-WHEET!

might have to go looking for one of these. haha.

Guitarmstr1948
October 27th, 2008, 11:37 AM
Fixed blades all the way. They are alot more badass and used for building forts and shit in the woods(what i like to do) if you check out Angelsword.com the type of metals they use there are totally ridiculously amazing. If you have big bucks i'd look into buying one of em

Krimzin
October 29th, 2008, 04:47 PM
My favorite knife is a knuckleduster/trench spike. Here is a pic. It's freaking flawless It's handle is brass knuckles with a 7 inch steel blade. Freaking beast! Check out the pic!

http://www.keepshooting.com/producti...ucklesbig2.jpg

crazyassmetalhead
October 29th, 2008, 04:55 PM
did you really need to post that twice?

plus that's kind of a shitty reproduction, the original ones looked more bad ass

Ninjaofdeth
November 1st, 2008, 10:48 PM
SOG Tigershark is cooler....http://sogknives.com/store/TE-02.html

AvengedX7
November 2nd, 2008, 01:39 PM
My bro is gettin me this knife for christmas. What do u think?

http://www.coldsteel.com/13rtk.html

Ninjaofdeth
November 3rd, 2008, 08:08 PM
My bro is gettin me this knife for christmas. What do u think?

http://www.coldsteel.com/13rtk.html

thats pretty cool

but this is cooler haha

http://sogknives.com/store/KU-01.html

numerator-91
November 3rd, 2008, 08:28 PM
$2500 is just a little steep don't you reckon

techtiger
November 4th, 2008, 10:30 AM
that knuckle buster i can pick up at 7mile fair for like 25 bucks, nothing spesh and its way to fucking big, it looks cool but so fucking stupid.... give me a few days ill show you my knuckles haha double saw blades on the front with two small sarated knives on the side.... its a fucking killer

AvengedX7
November 4th, 2008, 11:48 AM
i agree with Numerator 115>2500

sqizzie
November 5th, 2008, 11:15 PM
im more of a tactical fixed blade person i like the navy seal knife made by SiG i forgot the actual model but its the same fixed blade that the seals use you cant beat the functionality and durability of a fixed blade i do carry a gerber folder for everyday use but i never go any where with out a good fixed blade

Ninjaofdeth
November 6th, 2008, 12:01 AM
$2500 is just a little steep don't you reckon

but its OU-31 steel! and so sexy...

you have to admit that you'd take one over a lot of other fixed blades

anyone heard anything good about the Microtech halo 3?

looks appealing but it isnt dual action, which could be a problem

termanat252
November 6th, 2008, 08:02 PM
yeah. my favorite kinda knife is a good butterfly. only cause i can wild one of them things like no fucking other. if i ever get a new one ill post one of my tricks that i made up.

Ninjaofdeth
November 6th, 2008, 08:37 PM
yeah. my favorite kinda knife is a good butterfly. only cause i can wild one of them things like no fucking other. if i ever get a new one ill post one of my tricks that i made up.

flashy tricks are cool and all. but i still think a AUS 8 fixed blade such as my SOG SEAL Pup Elite would be better for fighting

http://img73.imageshack.us/img73/4563/36167110wm0.jpg (http://img73.imageshack.us/my.php?image=36167110wm0.jpg)

http://img73.imageshack.us/img73/3189/99697394sk7.jpg (http://img73.imageshack.us/my.php?image=99697394sk7.jpg)

numerator-91
November 6th, 2008, 08:38 PM
god damn it people resize your photos

crazyassmetalhead
November 6th, 2008, 09:57 PM
but then you can't see every miniscule detail of their greatness

Ninjaofdeth
November 8th, 2008, 02:26 AM
sorry on other forums they resize themselves

guess the acb just cant handle the greatness. hahaha

ill resize em next time. but for those i just copied em straight from my phone to imageshack then to here. ill resize em next time

skullcandy
November 9th, 2008, 04:22 PM
I'm a big fan of SOG, and love the seal team elite, but for everday use i normally carry around a Winchester made folder. Go out and buy the winchester made knives. They hold their edge, have a reliable lock, and are easier to conceal. Winchester is actually taking a loss producing them.

termanat252
November 9th, 2008, 10:32 PM
flashy tricks are cool and all. but i still think a AUS 8 fixed blade such as my SOG SEAL Pup Elite would be better for fighting

http://img73.imageshack.us/img73/4563/36167110wm0.jpg (http://img73.imageshack.us/my.php?image=36167110wm0.jpg)

http://img73.imageshack.us/img73/3189/99697394sk7.jpg (http://img73.imageshack.us/my.php?image=99697394sk7.jpg)

man i can almost garenty that i could get my butterfly out before u could get ur fixed blade clear of the sheath. no to put ur kinda knife down or any thing its just they are not as fast as a person realy good with a butterfly.

Phoenix Fire
November 9th, 2008, 10:33 PM
man i can almost garenty that i could get my butterfly out before u could get ur fixed blade clear of the sheath. no to put ur kinda knife down or any thing its just they are not as fast as a person realy good with a butterfly.

That was so ignorantly stupid it was humorous...






The best knife?

A sharp one....

skullcandy
November 9th, 2008, 10:45 PM
...






The best knife?

A sharp one....

The best knife, a gun...

Phoenix Fire
November 9th, 2008, 10:49 PM
Please grow a brain.

Black Napalm
November 9th, 2008, 10:56 PM
but its OU-31 steel! and so sexy...

you have to admit that you'd take one over a lot of other fixed blades

anyone heard anything good about the Microtech halo 3?

looks appealing but it isnt dual action, which could be a problem

I was about to say something about Microtech knives. I believe they are very good, one of the best companies. I have been wanting to get something from them for a while, but due to job problems I can't afford it. The Halo series are not dual action but it doesn't take long to set it back up. I do like the Ultratech model. It is dual-action, with a very nice safety feature. If the blade is fired out with anything in front of it, it disingages from its track. This means, if it opens in your pocket, it wont stab your leg. But this doesn't mean it is weak, it is actually a very solid knife. To get it back on track, just pull the blade all of the way out and your back in business.

Dalton is a very good brand for autos as well, but they are hard to find at a good price.

I am getting a custom fixed blade made. The maker says there is a very long wait, so I can get the money in time easily. I'll post my design sometime.

skullcandy
November 9th, 2008, 10:59 PM
I'd truly want one of the speacialty damascus steel fixed blades from a.g. Russel. It's made using three diferent steels, one of them from the barrel of an artillery piece. It has 600 layers of steel!

termanat252
November 9th, 2008, 11:04 PM
I'd truly want one of the speacialty damascus steel fixed blades from a.g. Russel. It's made using three diferent steels, one of them from the barrel of an artillery piece. It has 600 layers of steel!

do you even have the slightest idea how long it will take to make a damascus blade? or even how fucking much its going to cost you?? that kinda shit take a danm long time to make and costs well over 3.5 thousand, for a desent one

skullcandy
November 9th, 2008, 11:07 PM
nope, 1600 for this particular model. Yea, i know damascus takes a fuckload of time, but i was saying i want one.

termanat252
November 9th, 2008, 11:18 PM
fuckload doesnt even begin to cover it man

Black Napalm
November 10th, 2008, 01:35 AM
I believe there is a kind of damascus called Leo Damascus. It is made from the barrel of a Leopard Battle Tank. It does look really amazing. The price also depends on if the knife is a production knife or a hand made custom knife. I have seen a lot of damascus knifes sold for less than $1000 (of course there are many that cost much, much more). I would like something in damascus but I would not want to use it for anything. Although, I buy knives for all around general use now, so damascus isn't ver practical to me.

Ninjaofdeth
November 10th, 2008, 01:39 AM
That was so ignorantly stupid it was humorous...






The best knife?

A sharp one....

i agree. to both statements. and sog knives are quite fucking sharp. AUS 8 too...which means greater edge retention then all the other shitty AUS 6, 440 or 420 knives people have

man i can almost garenty that i could get my butterfly out before u could get ur fixed blade clear of the sheath. no to put ur kinda knife down or any thing its just they are not as fast as a person realy good with a butterfly.

are you kidding me? okay, for your butterfly you have to take it of your pocket, flip it open, lock it, then stab. i have to do one of three things..A) if its on my backpack strap, reach my arm across my body, pull the blade out and stab. one motion. B)if its on my belt-pull the blade out and stab. one motion. or C) if its in my pocket-pull the blade out and stab. one motion ( if i put it in my pocket, the handle is showing and the edge of my pocket holds the kydex sheath in place. when i pull the handle the blade comes out and the sheath doesnt)

plus my SOG SEAL Pup Elite is more multi purpose than your butterfly. i can baton wood, carve spears, kill, cut string without taking the blade out (thanks to the Kydex sheath), use it for survival, use it to saw a branch (half serrated), use the spine rasping to make notches in my a-trip device for a man trap deadfall, and again, to kill.

butterflies uses? basically fighting is it. that and cool tricks. however, the hinges make the blade inherently unsturdy.

who uses SOG fixed blades and tactical folders? MILITARIES. who uses butterfly knives? teenagers, people trying to look flashy, and asians.

so, in conclusion, i can get my blade out faster than you (unless you are like jesus or something), my blade is probably a higher quality steel than yours, my blade has more uses than yours, and my blade is more adaptable due to its MOLLE clip than yours, and my blade is better for killing than yours.

sorry, but you challenged me haha

Black Napalm
November 10th, 2008, 03:19 AM
Yea SOG is a good brand, but I would rather have my Ka-Bar Black Tanto. It is larger, so there is more reach and impact. The serrations seem to work very well compared to other kinds. Also, the steel is better on it. 1095 carbon steel beats AUS 8 any day. http://i316.photobucket.com/albums/mm346/Devious_Wolf/100_1672-1.jpg

It is actually in very good condition, it's just not clean.

Spirit of Diablo
November 10th, 2008, 09:13 AM
For fighting, I prefer a latin-style machete, usually around 22-24 inches long, backed up with a Ka-Bar law enforcement knife. For survival, I prefer a normal machete, or even a sharp axe.

Ka-Bar Law enforcement knife:

http://jaxknives.com/images/kabar_images/ka1480_2.jpg
You can wear it around your wrist, ankle, or on your belt.

skullcandy
November 10th, 2008, 10:24 PM
SWEET! I had no idea ka-bar had a tanto! I'd way rather have a tanto style than bowie, anyone disagree?

Phoenix Fire
November 10th, 2008, 11:11 PM
Yea SOG is a good brand, but I would rather have my Ka-Bar Black Tanto. It is larger, so there is more reach and impact. The serrations seem to work very well compared to other kinds. Also, the steel is better on it. 1095 carbon steel beats AUS 8 any day. http://i316.photobucket.com/albums/mm346/Devious_Wolf/100_1672-1.jpg

It is actually in very good condition, it's just not clean.

Do you ever clean your knives?
lol
Seriously.
Your collection pic looks like you were chopping up mud, with everything.

Black Napalm
November 11th, 2008, 04:22 PM
Yea I do clean them. I did say that the collection pics were old. The pic here was taken at the same time. The other knives that look bad are actually not in the greatest condition, but they were cheap so I don't really care.

Oh, and it's not mud. I used it to get some wood for a fire. The brown-ish stuff is rubbed off tree bark.

Ninjaofdeth
November 11th, 2008, 11:47 PM
Yea SOG is a good brand, but I would rather have my Ka-Bar Black Tanto. It is larger, so there is more reach and impact. The serrations seem to work very well compared to other kinds. Also, the steel is better on it. 1095 carbon steel beats AUS 8 any day. http://i316.photobucket.com/albums/mm346/Devious_Wolf/100_1672-1.jpg

It is actually in very good condition, it's just not clean.

thats badass. how much it run ya?

but if we're going for length and impact...

http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/9538/123ku4.jpg (http://img151.imageshack.us/my.php?image=123ku4.jpg)

haha its fucking crappy chinese 420 steel but oh well. its handy for cutting wood and intimidation

Black Napalm
November 13th, 2008, 11:23 AM
My Ka-Bar costed about $50-$60, I can't remember the exact price. A cousin of mine is in the army, so I go with him when he needs stuff for his uniform. Gotta love that military discount on knives!!

I really can't wait for my custom knife to be made. It is going to be the best knife I own, and the most expensive (around $400). I could get picture of the design if anybody is interested.

Ninjaofdeth
November 13th, 2008, 07:24 PM
My Ka-Bar costed about $50-$60, I can't remember the exact price. A cousin of mine is in the army, so I go with him when he needs stuff for his uniform. Gotta love that military discount on knives!!

I really can't wait for my custom knife to be made. It is going to be the best knife I own, and the most expensive (around $400). I could get picture of the design if anybody is interested.

damn thats cheap. my SOG SEAL Pup Elite was like 80

and my SOG Jungle primitive (the one in the pic in my last post) was around 40.

and my SOG Trident was also like 80

do you know if SOG Knives are still Cryogenically treated? i know my SOG Trident was, but i dont know about anything else because they took the cryogenically treated symbol off their website

techtiger
November 13th, 2008, 07:50 PM
i agree. to both statements. and sog knives are quite fucking sharp. AUS 8 too...which means greater edge retention then all the other shitty AUS 6, 440 or 420 knives people have



are you kidding me? okay, for your butterfly you have to take it of your pocket, flip it open, lock it, then stab. i have to do one of three things..A) if its on my backpack strap, reach my arm across my body, pull the blade out and stab. one motion. B)if its on my belt-pull the blade out and stab. one motion. or C) if its in my pocket-pull the blade out and stab. one motion ( if i put it in my pocket, the handle is showing and the edge of my pocket holds the kydex sheath in place. when i pull the handle the blade comes out and the sheath doesnt)

plus my SOG SEAL Pup Elite is more multi purpose than your butterfly. i can baton wood, carve spears, kill, cut string without taking the blade out (thanks to the Kydex sheath), use it for survival, use it to saw a branch (half serrated), use the spine rasping to make notches in my a-trip device for a man trap deadfall, and again, to kill.

butterflies uses? basically fighting is it. that and cool tricks. however, the hinges make the blade inherently unsturdy.

who uses SOG fixed blades and tactical folders? MILITARIES. who uses butterfly knives? teenagers, people trying to look flashy, and asians.

so, in conclusion, i can get my blade out faster than you (unless you are like jesus or something), my blade is probably a higher quality steel than yours, my blade has more uses than yours, and my blade is more adaptable due to its MOLLE clip than yours, and my blade is better for killing than yours.

sorry, but you challenged me haha

ya dude i promise i could get my fly out faster than you could get a fixed blade out. i can get my fly out and ready to stab faster than i can my switchblade. there are videos on it on line of whats the fastest knife to get out, i think the fastest one in the wolrld is like a beltbuckle knife and right after is a butterfly. my fly is on page 2 i think of this thread.

Black Napalm
November 13th, 2008, 08:31 PM
I am not sure if SOG still cryogenically treats knives, but I see no reason for them to stop. The only reason for the low price on the Ka-Bar is that I got it at a military base, it would have been at least $80 or more elsewhere.


(Below is directed towards techtiger)
About the speed of getting a knife out, there are many factors in play here.

First, where do you keep the knife? I would assume that you keep the butterfly in your pocket. Depending on the sheath, many fixed blades have countless options. I could strap my Ka-Bar to my leg, arm, belt (vertical or horizontal), etc. Some places are faster than others.

Second, how do you get it out? I'm not sure how you open your butterfly, but I doubt it is at all fancy if you are going for speed. Again depending on the sheath, a fixed blade can be drawn very quickly. Most knives that have a Kydex sheath can just be pulled out quickly, like my Ka-Bar. I don't need to have the 2 snaps on, the knife locks in the sheath and comes out relatively easy.

Can you honestly say you can reach into your pocket, pull out the "fly", and open it faster that just yanking out a fixed blade. I am 1000% sure that I can get my Ka-Bar out b4 your butterfly is open. Also, even if you get it out b4 me, I wouldn't be far behind. And I would have a knife better designed for fighting, butterflys are not tactical at all.

Don't get me wrong, I really like balisongs (real name). I would love to have a Benchmade one and get good with it. I just don't think they are very practical.

techtiger
November 13th, 2008, 10:19 PM
i used to carry a fixed blade all the time dont get me wrong they are fast and easy. however its the amount of motions that you have to do. for one i dont think you can walk around town with your knife strapped to your leg without causing any red flags. so i always had to have mine tucked on my waist line. this process of having to lift up the shirt or where ever else your blade may be takes just a little bit of time where as litterally all i have to do is reach in my pocket and stab. also depending on where it is on your body will depend on how you have it in your hand (like the blade facing away from your thumb or towards your thumb) no i dont use any fancy tricks if i have to get it out in a hurry but i do know i will have it out first, and my fly may not be as well designed for fighting but i can promise you it will kill you all the same

skullcandy
November 13th, 2008, 10:25 PM
Why do all these dumbasses think that all of knife fighting is pulling out your knife and stabbing. Your all fucking retarded. A real knife fight is 2 people pulling out their knifes and using footing. If you tried to stab you'd get your wrist sliced, or the other person if skilled enough could knock the knife out of your hand. THERE ARE SUBTlETIES TO KNIFE FIGHTING!

In fact, i'm pissed off enough about this to make a thread!

techtiger
November 13th, 2008, 10:33 PM
ok well if worst comes to worst i dont give a shit about footing im simply going to shoot you. i wont even reach for my knife i will just pull a gun. so if you want to get that literal i win eather way

skullcandy
November 13th, 2008, 10:39 PM
under your reasoning, a balisong would be faster than pulling a gun out of a pocket. DUMBASS

techtiger
November 13th, 2008, 10:46 PM
haha for one i highly suggest you watch who your talking to.
2 no way, i never said that at all. the right gun and if allready chambered would be way faster.

Black Napalm
November 13th, 2008, 11:00 PM
I was just saying, depending on where I have my knife, I can get it out very fast. But you are right, a gun will always be faster.

skullcandy, how are we fucking retarded? We are having a hypothetical discussion on how fast we can get out knives out. That is a very important factor in knife fighting. Honestly, don't take this so literaly!!!

techtiger
November 13th, 2008, 11:03 PM
haha well said. hemade a knife fighting sub section. i believe when we were talking i ment we would be point blank range right?

skullcandy
November 13th, 2008, 11:12 PM
I'm not just including you two, i see this kind of crap all the time about stabbing when people don't know what theyre talking about. You two make good points, but in the amount of time you took to reach down into your pocket the other person could have hit you in the face with his fists. Just saying.

techtiger
November 13th, 2008, 11:16 PM
i aggree some one could prob hit me faster than i can pull out a knife, however that may be his last punch. we are not even getting into a fighting situatino we were simply discussing what knife would be the fastest to pull.

Black Napalm
November 14th, 2008, 01:27 AM
Yea, at point blank range, you would be much faster with the bali. Taking out a fixed blade does need some room to do it easily. If we were farther apart, that's a different story.

skullcandy, I do understad what you are getting at. There are a lot of immature people who really have no clue what they are talking about.

Keep in mind, there are many blade styles that are specifically designed for stabbing, like a stiletto.

techtiger
November 14th, 2008, 01:38 AM
i have a stiletto, and ill be honest i much rather carry that fly i showed on page 2. the stilleto is nice because all you have to do is pull down a safty and press a button, however the blade isnt as sturdy and honestly i can still get my fly out faster, its all in the fly design. the one like i have is top notch and will be faster then a fixed and requires one fluid motion. im not trying to knock fixed blades, trust me i love them and if i was at war would rather carry a fixed blade simply because they are so fucking strong and can be used as pretty much anything

Black Napalm
November 14th, 2008, 01:47 AM
I only mentioned the stiletto to say some knives are made to stab, which balisongs fall into that category. I like them probly as much as you do but I want knives that have more practial use. Bali's do have the strongest locking mechanism of any folding knife. And I still would love to have a Benchmade balisong, they are very high quality.

About toughness, my Ka-Bar is a beast!! I was splitting some wood with it and when I swung into one log, it didn't go in straight. The blade had a obvious curve in it inside the log. When I took it out, it was perfictly straight. Gotta love that 1095 carbon steel.

techtiger
November 14th, 2008, 02:05 AM
yea as far as practical use a fixed wins hands down, i mean a fly can cun stuff and it can be used as kinda an all around knive because if you get a good one it can be very strong, however some of my fixed i swear could cut down a brick wall, one of my bayenettes or how ever you spell it could do any thing i need it two, it has a wire snips on the sheath and dbl sided blade with serrated on one, the thing could hold up against anything and if i were in a war that would be in my pocket, however when im out on the town its my fly that i want in my pocket

Black Napalm
November 14th, 2008, 02:21 AM
For me, I would probably prefer a Microtech OTF knife for an EDC (every day carry). But for legality reasons, I would probably have a Benchmade knife with the Axis-Lock.

A fixed blade knife is best suited for fighting/survival. Obviously, survival is the purpose of my knife, not that I'll need it though. I doubt I'll ever be in that kind of situation.

Ghostis
November 14th, 2008, 01:23 PM
there is a knife that has a clip in the butt its a knife/gun . i havent got one yet but i seen it on youtube

Ghostis
November 14th, 2008, 01:26 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2uVTPRhWdfc

Ghostis
November 14th, 2008, 01:32 PM
heres another bad ass toy check it out http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CgJ0EpxjZBU

techtiger
November 14th, 2008, 03:16 PM
both are cool, yet very impractical

VivaZapata
November 14th, 2008, 03:33 PM
i have two favorites the Fairbarn Sykes Stiletto produced by Ek and the Marine Corps issue Ka-Bar. Ka-Bar is a great utillity knife and the FS Stiletto is a great fighting knife

crazyassmetalhead
November 14th, 2008, 03:40 PM
Why do all these dumbasses think that all of knife fighting is pulling out your knife and stabbing. Your all fucking retarded. A real knife fight is 2 people pulling out their knifes and using footing. If you tried to stab you'd get your wrist sliced, or the other person if skilled enough could knock the knife out of your hand. THERE ARE SUBTlETIES TO KNIFE FIGHTING!

In fact, i'm pissed off enough about this to make a thread!

you're talking about duelling essentially and you're a fucking idiot for multiple reasons....

1. if i'm gonna pull a knife on somebody it's gonna be to kill them quickly so they don't have a chance to get their own weapon or have a chance to use a weapon they already have out.......and as far as killing somebody or seriously injuring them stabbing usually is the way to go

2. footing isn't gonna do shit when someone kicks you in the balls and stabs you in the spine....or various other things

3. theres no such thing as a "real knife fight"

4. if you won the fight you described above you'd go to prison for voluntary manslaughter or 2nd degree murder.......or assualt with a deadly weapon if you don't kill them.......and if you lost you'd probably be dead




stop trying to impress strangers on the internet with your fucking awful advice before someone more retarded than you actually takes it seriously

Ninjaofdeth
November 16th, 2008, 01:55 AM
For me, I would probably prefer a Microtech OTF knife for an EDC (every day carry). But for legality reasons, I would probably have a Benchmade knife with the Axis-Lock.

A fixed blade knife is best suited for fighting/survival. Obviously, survival is the purpose of my knife, not that I'll need it though. I doubt I'll ever be in that kind of situation.

i usually have my SOG Trident on me for every day carrying. Spring assisted, so its legal (was gonna get a SOG auto but realized it would be illegal), and its faster than other legal folders (with a nice arc lock type thing)

actually right now i have my SEAL Pup Elite in my pocket because i took the MOLLE attachment off of it and it fits in my pocket perfectly.

i'm still a firm believer that if i placed my fixed blade in its kydex sheath on my belt or in my waistband i'd have a faster draw. but we'll never know so i guess i dont really care anymore

and skull candy, as it has been said we do not think knife fighting is just stabbing. we were talking about a hypothetical situation in which we are in close proximity to each other and are both drawing our blades.

also, the fastest knife fight is the one thats not a fight. you can be the best knife fighter in the world but if im just walking by and stab you you would die. this is the situation in which speed is critical. because if i walked by, tried to stab you but you got your blade out, i would most likely end up dying because i havent trained in knife fighting. (i might kick your kneecaps in and such but idk if that would work or not)

someone who wants to kill wouldnt walk up to someone and brandish their fancy knife expecting to get into a knife fight. unless they are insane

also knife fights rarely happen these days with everyone walkind/driving around with guns.


EDIT

just read crazyassmetalheads post, and i agree with 1 3 and 4. in my opinion footing has everything to do with just about every fighting style. if you were to try to kick someone in the balls who had trained in a fighting martial art they would either jump back (which they could do because they would be light on their feet) or pick up their front leg and take the kick in the shin rather than the balls. if they were not trained they would most likely have their weight on their front foot, so they wouldnt be able to block in time. in my experience in fighting in a few styles if you cross your feet you get fucked and if you put too much weight on the front foot you get fucked. personally i always have my front leg very lightly on the ground so that i can kick in a split second if i have to

a stomp to the knee or kick to the sternum will stop most people pretty quickly

sqizzie
November 16th, 2008, 06:18 PM
as i stated in the other thread if im going to use a knife you probably wouldn't even know i was about to kill you the best way to ensure instant death is to sever the brain steam at the c1 vertebra,cutting the throat will ensure that they don't scream alerting any near by people

crazyassmetalhead
November 16th, 2008, 08:17 PM
i agree with the first part but not the thing about slitting someone's throat. that shit isn't so quiet or instant..... someone with there throat cut makes fucking awful noises like a pig squeling, it's actually kinda noisey and it takes a while to bleed out.........watch a beheading video or something if you don't believe me.

plus if you already did the 1st thing right it cuts off all motor reflexes and kills them, so really no need to make a bloody mess of the whole area

sqizzie
November 16th, 2008, 10:47 PM
the thing is if you cut someones throat (properly) then you cut their vocal cords which prevents them from yelling for help or alerting anyone near by ,cutting some ones throat is not an instant death ,hell ive seen people get their throat cut and not even die ,but if your going to take someone out silently cutting the throat is the fist thing you do,followed up by thrusting the knife into the heart or by sliding it in behind the spine at the kidney level severing the aorta this will ensure a quick death ,the only one step instantaneous death would be severing the brain stem at the back of the neck by thrusting the knife in at the base of the skull where the spine meets the skull

Black Napalm
November 18th, 2008, 12:07 AM
i usually have my SOG Trident on me for every day carrying. Spring assisted, so its legal (was gonna get a SOG auto but realized it would be illegal), and its faster than other legal folders (with a nice arc lock type thing)

I have a SOG Trident Tanto (Plain, TiNi coated) and it's great. Unfortunatly I need to sell it along with others to get a really good automatic knife. I'm trying to get a Dalton Battle Dragon. This knife is actually hard to find (like most Dalton's) since it is not being made anymore. Oh, and it is gonna cost me $200, not bad considering the quality and how rare it is.

Here is a pic:
http://kis.net/09/battledragonredsplash.jpg

Zamato Elite
November 18th, 2008, 01:07 AM
I got me self an Italian Stiletto smuggled from Italy. She's a beauty.

crazyassmetalhead
November 18th, 2008, 06:04 PM
i had a cheap one, probably chinese made......broke it

make sure you store that shit open, if you store it closed all the tension on the opening mechanism will fuck it up in the long run, i was thinking about getting another one, those things are classic.......but also explicitly illegal

skullcandy
November 18th, 2008, 09:41 PM
Zamato isn't smuggling weapons across borders a felony? Black napalm, that knife is a Bad Ass, seriously, can you show us a pic of the dalton battle dragon?

Black Napalm
November 19th, 2008, 02:09 PM
The one I am trying to get will look very similar to the one pictured above. I will be posting a video on youtube once I get it. I'll keep you updated.

Oh, and here is my design for the custom knife I am getting made. As you can see, it has a very similar blade shape to the battle dragon, but obviously much bigger.

http://i316.photobucket.com/albums/mm346/Devious_Wolf/Drawings063-1.jpg

marcraft
November 19th, 2008, 05:27 PM
CRKT M16-14LE with 4" tanto

Gauge
November 19th, 2008, 05:48 PM
If it was a true survival situation, like combat, fixed blade all the way. They'll last a fuckin century if you take care of em. But for day-to-day carry, I always have a good sturdy lockback. Good for utility use, but you can take someone down if you had to.

sqizzie
November 19th, 2008, 06:20 PM
i just got a new full tang Gerber fixed blade with the rubber grip handle.There is a few things i look for when shopping for a good knife,The quality of the steel,Full tang blade,weight,and balance,quality of construction.Im picky about my knifes

Black Napalm
November 20th, 2008, 03:07 PM
Yea, I am just as picky. The custom I am getting is differentally tempered 5160 steel, so it's going to be a beast of a knife.

My Ka-Bar has very good balance. The balance point is about an inch down the handle from the guard.

ShadowStep
November 21st, 2008, 03:35 PM
I can't remember the exact name but I like the kevlar style black blades ^_^

Black Napalm
November 22nd, 2008, 04:51 AM
Well, you would like the my future custom. It will have a black blade and the handle will be Green and Black Carbon Fiber.

TheMaggot
November 28th, 2008, 11:56 PM
one of these two:
#1http://www.funny-potato.com/images/knife.jpg
#2http://www.extrememortman.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/11/worlds%20largest%20Swiss%20Army%20Knife.jpg

skullcandy
November 28th, 2008, 11:58 PM
Red x of picture deadage

marcraft
November 30th, 2008, 03:27 PM
no such thing as a thumbstud lockback , you have it confused with Liner Lock . lockback is a normal buck hunting knife

Shaken Not Stirred
December 2nd, 2008, 07:53 PM
Definately gotta go with the Fairbairn-Sykes Fighting Knife in a combat/survival scenario. It's a great blade, very sturdy and very reliable, but a genuine one will cost you around $100. It was designed to be thin enough to fit between human ribs, but thick enough to prevent flexing, long enough to puncture vital organs, and it's balanced for throwing.
In terms of an everyday utility knife, I've got a Kershaw Scallion that I'm absolutely in love with. It's obscenely sharp straight from the factory, and will stay that way through many months of hard, frequent use. It's spring assisted, and can be popped open by pressing one finger gently on a part of the blade that protrudes from the back of the knife, like a button, which is great for one handed opening when your other hand is busy.

Xon
December 2nd, 2008, 09:21 PM
A nice CKRT tactical is fun to mess with but I once had this Tom Anderson designed knife. To die for...

skullcandy
December 9th, 2008, 09:54 PM
To answer the question of whats the name of the kevlar black on the blade and handle, thats TiNi, i'm not really sure what it stands for, but whatever.

Black Napalm
December 9th, 2008, 10:00 PM
no such thing as a thumbstud lockback , you have it confused with Liner Lock . lockback is a normal buck hunting knife

What are you talking about. A lockback is a knife with the lock release on the back of the handle, not just a BUCK hunting knife. Besides, most lockbacks have thumbstuds (well, BUCK has the classics that don't) instead of just a nail nick. Look at Cold Steel for a moment. Most of Cold Steel's lockback knives have thumbstuds. Most brands do!!

Sorry, I just hate it when some people are completely ignorant with the topic they are talking about.

Xon
December 10th, 2008, 09:00 AM
TiNi is Titanium Nickel coating.

Black Napalm
December 11th, 2008, 10:36 PM
Actually, I believe TiNi is Titanium Nitride. Titanium Nitride is used as a coating for many things, it is sometimes used with Nickel or Chromium. I think a Titanium-Nickel alloy makes memory metal, but I could be wrong.

I know it looks like it should be Titanium Nickel because of the i at the end.

Xon
December 12th, 2008, 10:12 AM
Yeah, you are probably right. I had the coating on one of my old knives and thought it was titanium nickel but nitrite is probably correct

Black Napalm
December 14th, 2008, 12:26 PM
Yea, it is a little confusing when Nickel is actually Ni, and Nitride is just N. So, the real name should be TiN, but that doesn't sound as good as TiNi, so they used that I guess. I think SOG had something on their webpage about the TiNi coating and it explained that it was Titanium Nitride. For some reason, I can't find it there anymore.

No matter what it is, I think it is better than any other coating. It looks really good and it really never wears off. The only wear on my SOG Trident is from my sharpening stone scratching it a little.

Xon
December 14th, 2008, 01:04 PM
Yeah, I had one coated with that. It wore off and really fucked up the sharping.

KAMIKADZE
January 1st, 2009, 10:36 PM
ive only had one of them in my life are World War I German knuckle/fixed knife.
Basciacly its jsut an brass kncuckle which has fixed blade on side. so in case u miss your stab you always can swing as brass knuckle. but they are RARE

Ninjaofdeth
January 2nd, 2009, 01:14 AM
http://budk.com/product.asp_Q_pn_E_17+BK984

cheap

replica

prolly works

666camaro420
January 4th, 2009, 11:14 PM
USMC Ka Bar, bitch is beast.
damn straight my man

Zamato Elite
January 4th, 2009, 11:26 PM
damn straight my man

Fuck, I just ordered a Ka-Bar literally a few seconds ago. I can't wait for it to arrive.

Basarab
January 12th, 2009, 01:50 PM
fixed blades are by far the best, they have alot of penetrating power, try stabbing a balisong through someones chest plate. Probably will never happen, but with a big ass fixed blade of any kind, you can go in deep.

statik82192
January 19th, 2009, 09:13 PM
I voted for switchblade because it's so bad ass but if I was going to kill I would use the ka-bar

MalloryOMae
January 27th, 2009, 03:02 PM
What is the knife being used for? I have favorites for deco, foreplay, self defense, hunting, filleting, cooking... etc... It just depends on what I am doing really. I have a lock blade with a multi function blade that I carry for carving my name in stuff. I also have a heavy duty triple knife that I carry for security. I have a dual blade smith and wesson that while it isn't the most durable knife it is a great conversational piece.

crazyassmetalhead
January 27th, 2009, 06:22 PM
that was why the poll was so general...

most people have different knives they use for different shit

like my swiss army lockback is my default drinking knife due to the bottle opener, my cheap ass butterfly knife is what i'd take to something like a concert or whatever if i felt i needed it cause i could ditch it and not care (if there was metal detectors or whatever), then i got my tactical lockback for everyday carry and my buck 110 for camping

LordSkweegie
February 9th, 2009, 05:00 AM
that is my favorite knife as well, they're flawless.

true story, i loves my K-Bars

Nebuchadnezzar
February 9th, 2009, 08:46 PM
Cold Steel Master Hunter

http://images.coldsteel-knives.com/Lg/3369_1/36JSK_Cold_Steel_Master_Hunter_Stainless_Concealex _Sheath.jpg

The only tool I've ever owned that I can't fuck up without serious and deliberate effort.

Bigass handle, good edge, lanyard ring, solid rubber handle, nice sheath, very solid.

LordSkweegie
February 9th, 2009, 11:10 PM
that looks like a sweet grip

Nebuchadnezzar
February 9th, 2009, 11:13 PM
Yeah, it's rock-solid; I think they molded it directly onto the tang.

Plus, I've got pretty big hands, so that long grip is really helpful.

blame_the_system91
February 11th, 2009, 01:27 PM
i prefer a large pocket-knife, one that is just under illegal length to carry it around (would suck balls if u get caught with any kind of knife and have to pay for it without you actually doing anything with it).
Nice detail is that my swiss army knife has a piercer on the other side; knife at one end, piercer on the other: beats a standard knife ;P

for all who prefer an illegal knife... just get a gun for that sake....

wingedace
February 11th, 2009, 09:16 PM
Definitely a switchblade, i used to thing butterflies where cool until i realized how unless your really good with em a switchblade is better...

crazyassmetalhead
February 11th, 2009, 09:33 PM
unless you carry a switch blade in like a jacket pocket a folding knife with a pocket clip is quicker and easier to deploy. i've seen some decent switchblades with pocket clips, but the tactical folders with the tumbstuds, or the kind with the little ***** on top of the blade open way faster with practice.

plus they take more abuse because they're harder to break.

but most importantly, cops tend to not give a shit. at least here, where an "ordinary pocket knife" is legal to carry concealed.



motherfucking r_idge censor...

semperfi556
February 16th, 2009, 04:25 AM
I have a fixed blade Kabar and it can take a beating, I love that knife.

GeoMonky
February 23rd, 2009, 11:01 AM
In my pocket, an Emerson CQC7 Super. With it's "wave" opener catching on the pocket, it opens immediately exiting the pocket.

It my BOB, a Falkniven A-1 fixed blade. SUPER tough and sharp.

VCTR
February 24th, 2009, 10:33 AM
3/4 short sword lazer sharpened two handed with spike po*** covered in some ones blood so as not to get my self stabbed buy my own sword again

thermite2534
February 25th, 2009, 07:08 AM
I use a winchester folding lockback for making pipes and just generally carrying, but my favorite knife woyld have to be my bud K one. Two blades about 14" long and razor sharp, that is strictly for killing people.

skullcandy
February 25th, 2009, 05:42 PM
excellent, another person carrying wincheser's very nice knives.

ravenscar
August 26th, 2009, 08:13 PM
truthfully? i prefer paula dean knifes. there the perfect weight and balance for me

KusKus
August 26th, 2009, 09:12 PM
In my pocket, an Emerson CQC7 Super. With it's "wave" opener catching on the pocket, it opens immediately exiting the pocket.

It my BOB, a Falkniven A-1 fixed blade. SUPER tough and sharp.

those r cool
at first when i saw the "wave"
i see people pop them so quickly
i was like WTF how did u do that
i took me a while to figgure it out

yummycars321
August 26th, 2009, 11:55 PM
my switchblade <3

hdeuce
August 27th, 2009, 05:22 AM
I love my butterfly knife. It took me quite a bit of practice to get real good with it, but now i could cut someone five times without the knife ever stopping moving. Im telling you butterfly knives are the shit get one and practice for about a week and you will have the hang of it, practice for a year and you will never be disappointed by it.

crazyassmetalhead
August 27th, 2009, 06:41 PM
i can get my folder with a flick ri_dge out faster, mainly cause of the pocket clip.

butterfly knives are fun, but i don't carry one any more. you can't use them for much other than flipping around and looking badass and stabbing/slashing people. i like having a utility aspect as well as a tactical one.

plus the cops will most likely give you shit for having a balisong concealed, same thing with switchblades....tactical folders they really don't give two shits about most places.


i need to buy another butterfly knife though, miss playing with mine.......not sure where that ghetto ass thing is (heavy plastic handles and a dull somewhat broad blade....held together with a pin and a piece of chain link fence since the other pin fell out.......worth the dollar i paid for it though).


as far as buying a butterfly knife, it's okay to get a piece of shit one as long as it's cheap and you don't care to much about using it. but don't get one that has the shitty metal handles that can bend or snap.....as for the plastic handle ones, i've only seen that on the shitty one i have somewhere.

Maggotsfriend
August 27th, 2009, 06:44 PM
What is with this obsession with always carrying a knife... only a gun can live up to a second cock.

ravenscar
August 27th, 2009, 06:53 PM
can a gun cut things? can i gun be as quiet as my heartbeat? no,thats whats up with the knife obsession

crazyassmetalhead
August 27th, 2009, 06:54 PM
because i don't have enough money for a gun and can't really open shit with one (or do most of the shit i can with a knife).....or carry one legally here until i'm 21 and get a permit.

i don't think of it as an obsession, it just makes sense.....probably the most useful thing you can carry.


most people don't carry a knife as a weapon, it's a good option to have though.

skull
August 27th, 2009, 09:28 PM
You forgot bayonets and sheath knives, but I guess those would go under fixed blades then...
I <3 my bayonet!

Incendia vox
August 31st, 2009, 06:30 PM
I love sitting there slowly opening my switchblade infront of people with a crazy look on my face.

Makevali
September 3rd, 2009, 11:30 PM
WWI trench knife,

i_club_midgets
September 4th, 2009, 04:45 PM
http://www.teraasekeskus.com/images/extra/RamboSurvivalKnife.jpg ...nuff said

DBMRufus
September 7th, 2009, 12:30 AM
Depends how I feel like wielding the blade.

For a swinging, hatcheting motion I prefer a fixed blade simply because it offers more power this way. Likewise; if I feel like siding someone, I'll use a dagger. I just like how both blades are constructed, and how there's less the knife falling apart at the hilt (which is why I'd never, ever use a compound knife that folds in, etc....)

I've actually only ever made bladed weapons from a single metal piece with a hilt built around it, so I don't have much experience with any kind of folding knife other than by sight, but it's just my personal preference.

Black Napalm
September 12th, 2009, 08:12 PM
Well, I got my Dalton Battle Dragon. Costed me $175!!!

Here is a pic (with a fork...couldn't find a spoon nearby):

http://i316.photobucket.com/albums/mm346/Devious_Wolf/securedownload.jpg

@Maggotsfriend: Why carry a knife always? Because it is a tool, and an extre***y useful one. Thats whats wrong about knife laws, knives are mostly thought of as weapons. But in reality, most people use them as tools. A gun is not a tool....

Also, the whole legality of switchblades is really pointless. That law is so completely out of date. Like what has been said, there are MANUAL knives that can be opened much faster than an automatic knife. So what makes autos so much worse? I have no idea....

Anyway, I am currently planning on making a butterfly knife. Mostly because I can use a smaller grinder, which costs less money!! It will be a while before I will be starting it though.

xxxzz
September 12th, 2009, 09:27 PM
muela magnum anyday

http://www.filofiel.com/tienda/images/MUELA%20MAGNUM%2026%20SERAPHIN.JPG