Large Hadron Collider

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"...After 14 years, the European particle physics lab near Geneva, known by its French acronym CERN, is preparing to switch on the Large Hadron Collider (LHC), designed to seek out new particles including the long-awaited Higgs boson responsible for making things weigh what they do, the possible source of gravity called dark matter, as well as probe the differences between matter and its "evil twin" antimatter..."

(a.k.a. exotic matter)

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/main.jhtml?view=DETAILS&grid=&xml=/earth/2008/08/26/scirap126.xml

and

http://www.efluxmedia.com/news_Update_The_Final_Touches_For_The_Large_Hadron _Colliders_Launch_23799.html

[RAV]

ummm... i saw a documentary on the science channel, i believe last sunday, about the LHC. They have already used it, just not to full scale. I don't know if you are talking about it using more power than the previous tests but the LHC has already been used.

And they had a speculation on how large the machine would have to be to see the Higgs particle, they guessed the size of the galaxy, maybe the solar system (pretty sure the galaxy but nonetheless it is still pretty big).

You are talking about the one in Geneva, correct?

[LNT-5265F]

you missed the entire fuckin point of this thread. it had nothing to do with the machine itself.


the point was in the "prob[ing] [of] the differences between matter and its "evil twin" antimatter..."

it was an extension of the other thread, but because it is it's own topic anyway, a new thread was created.

[superflysuperwhite]

......fuck the swiss

[RAV]

Dark matter is not a possible source for gravity. Dark matter is matter that has an albedo of 0%, or close to (meaning it is a black body). Albedo means the reflectivity of a certain object. White ice has a high albedo while a black hole (dark matter) has none. Dark matter includes: black holes, black dwarfs, brown dwarfs, WIMPS, MACHOS, and anything else too cool to radiate. This may account for gravitational pulls that are unknown why they happen because there really is a mass there. Also, it explains why the universe is so much heavier than what we can see. To measure the mass density of the universe you have to measure the mass of galaxies and divide them by the volume. If you do this you will see that there seems to be a huge miscalculation but it is just dark matter. If you don't believe me ask my source Physics for the IB Diploma by K.A.Tsokos If you don't believe me go tell him not me.

What I believe that you are talking about is Gravitons, because the LHC is predicted to be able to detect this, as others have. The difference between the data that we already have and the one from the LHC is the LHC is much more accurate. You can find gravitons by smashing two particles and see if there is an amount of energy that has suddenly gone missing, predicted to now preside in another universe. Which would also prove parallel universes and why gravity is so weak. (This one is from What is Wrong With Earth's Gravity on the Science Channel)

If you are asking yourself why I am stating my sources it is because I know someone will come on here and bitch to me about how I'm wrong and how they are right and so on. Well by stating my sources I am telling you exactly where to look before you bitch to me and now if you say that I am wrong you are contradicting college professors who I am guessing are much smarter than you guys, yes that includes me too. So please don't bitch to me without looking up stuff on your own. This does not only apply to this thread. (And yes I know people are going to bitch anyways...so fuck off idiots)

[RAV]

I would suggest reading the whole thing.

Anyways to sum it DARK MATTER is something that is too cool to radiate (to be seen). This will have a gravitational effect, which is how they find them. Like how you can see black holes because they suck in a bunch of light and the other way is to see a warped space around nothing. Third line down on other post is a list of some types of dark matter.

Antiparticles, the particles of antimatter, have mass and do not defy gravity. They have the same mass as their correspondent but have an opposite charge. i.e. an anti-Hydrogen particle would have a particle the same mass as a proton but negatively charged and instead of an electron it would have a positron. Some particles are their own antiparticles though, like photons and gravitons (these antiparticles have a neutral charge). When antiparticles and normal matter come into contact with one another they obliterate one another creating a vast amount of energy. Which is why there would be antimatter guns, power sources, and so on. They are really hard to create though. And yes they have been found. (source once again is K.A. Toskos)

BOTH ANTIMATTER AND DARK MATTER ARE REAL PARTICLES THAT HAVE BEEN FOUND OUTSIDE OF EQUATIONS AND INSIDE LABS. THEY ARE REAL AND PROVEN. Learn what you are talking about before you humiliate yourself. Now exotic matter is not proven, and can not be found by the LHC, which neither antimatter or dark-matter will be found by it, possibly the absence of a graviton though.

[LNT-5265F]

i would suggest you take the article for what it's worth and stop bitching because you can't grasp even the simplest point so you mask it in semi-irrelevant information which is most probably googled and reworded.

go die.