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numerator-91
July 27th, 2008, 03:36 AM
what are your views on genetic modification? is it ethical? is it moral? how far can/should we go?
alienplayer
July 27th, 2008, 06:44 AM
My ideas on genetic modification is complicated:
If we are creating a life or a new species through genetic modification there will be strong feelings and argumens.
In my p* of view, It isn't ethical or moral to genetically modify a species and create new species from it. Genetically modifying a species will be like modifying a life! My p* of view might change.
StroggDog
July 27th, 2008, 06:55 AM
Imma thinking off genetic augs like in deus ex, JC could kick several asses at once with those powers. wait is that what were talking about
numerator-91
July 27th, 2008, 07:07 AM
Imma thinking off genetic augs like in deus ex, JC could kick several asses at once with those powers. wait is that what were talking about
your a fucking moron. i say that with maximum harshness and offense as possible. deus ex was nanotechnology and had no base whatsoever in genetic modification.
i am referring to the selective removal of one of or more genes from an organism and transplanting it into another organism to alter its genetic make up to serve a purpose e.g. bt cotton or golden rice
SuperSkunk
July 27th, 2008, 10:36 AM
what are your views on genetic modification? is it ethical? is it moral? how far can/should we go?
I want to see genetic modification create superhumans. That'd be sweet.
I really don't care about morals you know, so genetic modification is all good in my eyes.
A Deo et Rege
July 27th, 2008, 02:52 PM
your a fucking moron. i say that with maximum harshness and offense as possible. deus ex was nanotechnology and had no base whatsoever in genetic modification.
i am referring to the selective removal of one of or more genes from an organism and transplanting it into another organism to alter its genetic make up to serve a purpose e.g. bt cotton or golden rice
I believe he was thinking of cybernetic modifications which are just as controversial as genetic modifications, and may have confused cybernetics with genetics--or he could just be a mongoloid.
I personally see nothing wrong with genetically altering plants or animals as long as the outcome has some practicality to it. Scientist have already modified some plants and animals to better suit the needs of the consumer, so the next logical step would be humans. I think that the first use for genetic modification in humans would be disease oriented, i.e. cancer, seeing as it is a genetic defect we are all born with--"curing" cancer would be the logical first step.
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numerator-91
July 28th, 2008, 03:10 AM
stupid fucking hippies complaining about genetically modified cotton and canola. they don't seem to realise that with these modifications we don't have to spray as much toxic pesticides and herbicides into our crops and the environment is thanking us.
Shanx
July 28th, 2008, 03:19 AM
I completely agree
a2thae
July 28th, 2008, 03:38 AM
Genetic modification..from an ethical standpoint you have to look at 2 different sides. Atheism, and Religion. From an atheist standpoint you see the opportunity to create stronger, more intelligent humans who could possibly either conquer the world, or better it. You can create more potent plants, and you can improve efficiency of anything you modify.
From a religious standpoint I don't think it would be too ethical after the first few because of that "messiah/Intelligent Design" bullshit. They will say shit like "Don't try to impose God's will onto nature" and "you are messing with the design".
Shanx
July 28th, 2008, 03:17 PM
Genetic modification..from an ethical standpoint you have to look at 2 different sides. Atheism, and Religion. From an atheist standpoint you see the opportunity to create stronger, more intelligent humans who could possibly either conquer the world, or better it. You can create more potent plants, and you can improve efficiency of anything you modify.
From a religious standpoint I don't think it would be too ethical after the first few because of that "messiah/Intelligent Design" bullshit. They will say shit like "Don't try to impose God's will onto nature" and "you are messing with the design".
Yeah, People really have to put religion behind them and admit that its a bunch of bullshit. We should be looking towards the future and accomplishing bigger goals then being stuck in the past. And if everyone just took out religion, there would be less way less fights. People shouldn't be arguing about that kind of shit, they should be thinking and discovering.
crazyassmetalhead
July 28th, 2008, 03:40 PM
morality shouldn't be an issue when it comes to technology. if it can safely improve our lives and not be obscenely expensive to do so than I'm for it. as far as using it on people, life should be about quality not quanity.
numerator-91
July 29th, 2008, 05:25 AM
quality of life is a double edged sword. if we make all these advancements we can theoretically sustain more lif and for longer.......until we run out of oil and minerals which will be fairly soon. what happens next? you ask, the human race plunges into war and chaos and were all sittin back goin. "no shit, who'd a thunk it?"
Exploding_viper
August 13th, 2008, 10:20 PM
quality of life is a double edged sword. if we make all these advancements we can theoretically sustain more lif and for longer.......until we run out of oil and minerals which will be fairly soon. what happens next? you ask, the human race plunges into war and chaos and were all sittin back goin. "no shit, who'd a thunk it?"
i agree with out, i mean look at the apeshit over oil, even though their is all the oil in alaska and the ocean floor, but we need to preserve the freshwater in the artic/antartic. and fish is a big part of economy. eventually, unless we figure out how to make plants grow overnight, along with animals, cannibalism will become common. like in that movie doomsday, the people blockaded of ran out of shit and ate each other.
c73
August 13th, 2008, 11:08 PM
Personally, I don't think we are that much in danger of running out of food and having to resort to eating eachother haha.
But as for the genetic modification, I think it's fine in vegetation. Animals is kind of pushing it. And definately don't fuck with humans.
numerator-91
August 14th, 2008, 01:54 AM
what if say you had a child with cystic fibrosis and a revolutionary new medical procedure that involved manipulating and fixing the faulty gene that causes cystic fibrosis, but the doctors werent allowed to perform these types of procedures on humans, would you feel differently then.
c73
August 14th, 2008, 12:23 PM
Well, that's looking at it differently. I would say fixing it to the extent that it should be in normal humans is fine.
numerator-91
August 14th, 2008, 09:42 PM
but then we are playing with nature and creating unsustainable populations
the point i'm trying to make is that with every scientific advancement we are making things "better" in the here and now, but we are so severely screwing our future existence. everything is a double edged sword
crazyassmetalhead
August 14th, 2008, 11:33 PM
that's why we need to have a huge ass global war which is gonna happen sooner or later, most of the world goes bye bye..... then genetic engineering to purify the human race. like nazism without all the sillyness.
numerator-91
August 15th, 2008, 02:59 AM
one of the biggest oxymorons i have ever heard
ItsAPoorlyKeptSecret
August 15th, 2008, 03:22 AM
i had something to say but it seemed like to much to say so i'll just make it short with yea its very "double edged sword" more in the sense that its can help safe and also hurt us possibly but we cant tell the future only hope for the best and what not.
c73
August 15th, 2008, 09:40 AM
but then we are playing with nature and creating unsustainable populations
the point i'm trying to make is that with every scientific advancement we are making things "better" in the here and now, but we are so severely screwing our future existence. everything is a double edged sword
True with the first part, but that might be something we just have to deal with. To the second part, my point wasn't to better everything, just, if we are using humans, fix only what they need to be back to the norm.
LNT-5265F
August 29th, 2008, 07:54 PM
eugenics is bad. We don't need a fuckin eugenics war on top of everything else in this world that's going wrong.
instead of throwing around idea's you kids already have, try looking some new shit up. like eugenics. then discuss what you don't understand. THAT's how you learn shit fella's
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