Are we ready?

[A Deo et Rege]

I know there have been many threads on aliens already, but I am taking a different approach to the matter with this thread. My question is are we ready as a society to make contact with interplanetary beings. This brings to mind the question what would happen if we made contact? We as a society have never dealt with any other sentient being besides other humans. How would humanity react to a hyper intelligent life form; would we feel threatened? Contact with another equally intelligent or more advanced civilization would be difficult to grasp, and even more difficult to think of the effects this would have on our species. In the past we have not been the most accepting of others different from us, even when they are the same species, so how would we react to a species from an entirely different planet or galaxy?


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[numerator-91]

humans are in general stupid, irrational and violent. any being that could get from way out there to earth would be far beyond our realm of intelligence and reason. theres also the physiological differences to consider. our ideal environments may be vastly different, we would be resistant and succeptible to vastly different pathogens, just think one brief contact with these other lifeforms may lead to contact with many many other life forms unintentionally and could possibly lead to mass extinctions
bet you weren't thinking along those lines, eh?

[A Deo et Rege]

humans are in general stupid, irrational and violent. any being that could get from way out there to earth would be far beyond our realm of intelligence and reason. theres also the physiological differences to consider. our ideal environments may be vastly different, we would be resistant and succeptible to vastly different pathogens, just think one brief contact with these other lifeforms may lead to contact with many many other life forms unintentionally and could possibly lead to mass extinctions
bet you weren't thinking along those lines, eh?

No, but the thought had crossed my mind. I think that a civilization that advanced would probably have already cured all know diseases, or is that taking it a little too far. It stands to reason that if they are capable of intergalactic travel eradicating a few pathogens wouldn't pose much of a challenge. However, we could infect them with a disease unknown to them, but seeing as all of our pathogens are carbon based they will probably pose no threat seeing as the other lifeforms may have a different basis for life.

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[r33k]

we are far from ready for contact with other intelligent life forms. This is primarily because weall will not be able to understand their ways and abilities and it is a proven fact that unfamiliarity is the root to fear

[numerator-91]

No, but the thought had crossed my mind. I think that a civilization that advanced would probably have already cured all know diseases, or is that taking it a little too far. It stands to reason that if they are capable of intergalactic travel eradicating a few pathogens wouldn't pose much of a challenge. However, we could infect them with a disease unknown to them, but seeing as all of our pathogens are carbon based they will probably pose no threat seeing as the other lifeforms may have a different basis for life.

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cure all KNOWN diseases. there could be absolutely massive differences between lifeforms even to the extent that they may not be carbon based. our atmosphere, temperature, exposure to UV radiation may all be way different to what they require for sustained life.

[r33k]

true but in that case if they are carbon based and can adapt to our atmosphere who's to say that they aren't already among us and wouldn't breed with us? that's a thought to rattle some theorisit's mind

[Shanx]

true but in that case if they are carbon based and can adapt to our atmosphere who's to say that they aren't already among us and wouldn't breed with us? that's a thought to rattle some theorisit's mind
Hah, Sounds like from that movie "They Live" but yeah that would be crazy. I also agree that we are not ready to meet them. First of all, their technology would probably be incomprehensible and second, human beings would most likely react violently like shooting down a UFO. Well maybe not all of us but the military would be on it pretty quickly.

[SuperSkunk]

Yeah I think we're ready. I wanna see my intergalactic grandparents. I believe we were left here by aliens and we used be aliens an shit. We've already made contact a few times. Mostly because we are a large scale experiment set up by the greys.

[iZen]

Personally I do not feel that humanity is ready for contact with a more advanced civilization. Our urge for greed and power will turn the technology that we gain from these civilizations into weapons and we will destroy ourselves more quickly. I'll use the Greys which are believed to be from Zeta Reticuli as an example. Zeta Reticuli is 40 light years away, so either the Greys have such advanced technology that they can travel faster than life, or they have the ability to live much longer, making 40 years not that long in their lives.
Either way, if any government on the planet on their hands on that kind of tech, it would just lead to our demise.

[CHEETZzz]

I agree with Numerator mostly, i think people are too violent in nature and the government would take control of the situation and fuck it up....

Eh

[Shanx]

Maybe we are Aliens lol. Because you know how there are those ancient cave drawings of people in space suits talking to humans? Maybe humanity wasn't intelligent enough to start a civilization so they came down and helped us start. Maybe whenever there is a UFO sighting or an abduction, its just their way of checking up on us and seeing how we are advancing. Maybe one day we will evolve into these beings.

It probably sounds childish to be using "Maybe" repeatedly but w/e, its just my opinion.

[exial]

I dont agree with the poll. Are "we" ready for contact. I will say I am ready for contact, but i cant speak for the whole human race. I for one, would actually want a encounter with beings from different solar systems, or demensions, but i know a couple of people who would scream and run around in circles. And i sorta think that we have already been contacted, but i believe the Aliens have something worked out with the american goverment. Like for exchange of technology we give them, things they cant obtain on there world. but what do we really know?

[Shanx]

I agree with exial. If i was abducted or I saw an alien face in my window, I wouldn't be afraid. I would be...in Shock. Like, I would probably be like paralyzed with shock not fear but we humans are only afraid of things we don't see often. Like the giant squid for example. Before it was discovered, it was a Sea Monster but now its just another animal. If aliens visited our planet everyday we would get used to it and wouldn't be afraid anymore.

Note: I'm Not saying any of you are afraid, just humans in general.

[exial]

Yea dude. But then theres always the possibility that there are aliens living amongst us. and your right, if aliens became frequent visitors the excitment would die away. And we would find other things to excite our imaginations.

[Shanx]

This is a pretty odd video lol
http://youtube.com/watch?v=C7qXLGaruOk
Is 2012 the Liberating of our physical bodies?

Maybe time is an illusion and we are only living in the moment and there is no past, only the stories of it and our generation has the connection they speak of in this video? Who knows.

Sounds a little bit like Scientology.

[SuperSkunk]

Maybe we are Aliens lol. Because you know how there are those ancient cave drawings of people in space suits talking to humans? Maybe humanity wasn't intelligent enough to start a civilization so they came down and helped us start. Maybe whenever there is a UFO sighting or an abduction, its just their way of checking up on us and seeing how we are advancing. Maybe one day we will evolve into these beings.


Dude those cave drawings and all the signs pointing towards ancient contact between humans and aliens are what I base my theory of us being descendants of aliens man.

We are actually a very large scale experiment to the aliens.

[Shanx]

Yeah thats exactly what I think lol. Its one of the theories that i think is most likely.

This has sorta a connection to that too. This explains our technology but it is no where near advanced as we take it to be. It could be though. If our world was not so obsessed with money, greed, religion, race and everything else keeping us from working together, we could achieve goals on a much higher scale.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=6ftF8sXzoWk
(Sorry, I kind of have a thing with videos. A lot of the things I try to explain are better understood in videos and I will usually say things that come from video and I want to give the credit.)

[crazyassmetalhead]

these ideas almost sound pagan, we being descendants of superior beings trying to transcend to their level. basically if you think of the pagan gods as aliens it makes a lot of sense in this context.

but i don't think we're ready for contact with extraterrestrial beings, cause we still manage to fuck up terrestrial contact within our of species pretty much everyday.

[Shanx]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=BrKi_DQ4h2U

Haha "Ima tell god to get me a grill cheese sandwich and som tacos"

[frankenstein]

We as humans in general will never be ready, me im ready you might be ready to but most are not, and their will always be stupid fucks who will be to power hunger to except peace with a different intelligent life form. the only possible way to make us ready is for them to come kill those who are not ready, or just leave them, and take us into their society so the children can grow up in a unified society.

[frankenstein]

That first video is fucking retarded!!! dont get stuck on one idea. imagine if Einstein took that shit to heart fuck it dont contently think until you find reason just believe. i am extre***y conflicted i hate current religion but if that crap became the dominate religion i just dont know i think i would miss the crusades.

Ha Ha God created energy and beings to play with it and those beings created the universe. that shit is so dumb. i have to know are any of you gullible enough to buy that shit.

oh and 2012 planet x thats illogical a planet almost the size of our sun would mean our solar system would be vastly different.

[StolenDXM]

We could all be experiments for "The greys" like we are only here to evolve. And when we die we just go into an incubation period till later on in the future when we have evolved another step and come back and keep repeating the process till we are one with the "things" that put us here.

[frankenstein]

dumb dumb dumb, dumb dumb dumb

[numerator-91]

harsh but true

[StolenDXM]

was just an idea i got while smokin pot already knew it was dumb just thought id share haha

[frankenstein]

lol when i wrote that dumb dumb dumb thing i was thinking of that south park episode about the Mormons. but yea that idea is pretty lame needing some higher life form to help us evolve into the same form as the creating force... however people believe crazier shit like well the mormons lol!

[PIE!]

I disagree with numerator because if we DID make contact with aliens (say they land here one day and reveal themselves) everyone would know, it would be EVERYWHERE. Everyone would want to be...part of it, like a riot. Of course, the government of the country the alien vessel landed in would definitely try to control it, but they would be overwhelmed by the sheer will of the people, otherwise be torn between the mixed views the people would have.

[numerator-91]

I disagree with numerator because if we DID make contact with aliens (say they land here one day and reveal themselves) everyone would know, it would be EVERYWHERE. Everyone would want to be...part of it, like a riot. Of course, the government of the country the alien vessel landed in would definitely try to control it, but they would be overwhelmed by the sheer will of the people, otherwise be torn between the mixed views the people would have.

Say What?
which comment of mine are you quoting?

[StolenDXM]

humans are in general stupid, irrational and violent. any being that could get from way out there to earth would be far beyond our realm of intelligence and reason. theres also the physiological differences to consider. our ideal environments may be vastly different, we would be resistant and succeptible to vastly different pathogens, just think one brief contact with these other lifeforms may lead to contact with many many other life forms unintentionally and could possibly lead to mass extinctions
bet you weren't thinking along those lines, eh?

probably that one i guess?

[Exploding_viper]

look what happened when the english found the americas 300 years ago. they pushed the indians off the land they had been on for thousands of years, after they got tired of killing or religiously converting them.

i read somewhere in this thread that humans arugue too much about money, power, and religion thus setting back our technology.

i personally think i would be partially read for contact as in the sense of, i would be frightend to the point of curiosity and wanting to understanding, but protective over what humanity has claimed

[techtiger]

i cant believe no one has brought this little point up... Religion. entire masses would find out that what they believe in was a hoax and that they just spent there lives wasting away praying to something that didnt exist..... as to the question i think you guys have nailed it on the head. i think some people are ready but sociaty as a whole is far from it, that is if they will ever be ready. i believe Men in black said it best, A person is smart, People are scared naratic anaimals

[A Deo et Rege]

I don't see how aliens would conflict with religion because nowhere in the bible does it say that we are the only beings in existence. I myself am a christian and strongly believe that there is intelligent life out there somewhere, and I hope to see the day when we make contact, but I don't think aliens would in any way lessen my faith.......

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[techtiger]

For Christ died for sins once for all, the righteous for the unrighteous, to bring you to God’. There is no salvation outside Christ. As a consequence no other life form has access to Christ who died once on this planet, while the whole universe is tainted by sin as Satan was an angle of God and went ‘back and forth’ (Job 1:7)
every one is free to there own enturpretation

[A Deo et Rege]

And the LORD said unto Satan, Whence comest thou? Then Satan answered the LORD, and said, From going to and fro in the earth, and from walking up and down in it.
~~(Job 1:7)

Christ died for the sins of all, so technically that would include aliens--would it not? Also, since God in an omnipresent being, and Christ being of God, that would make him an omnipresent being also, which would mean that he could have died on countless other planets at the same time, and still have only died once on our planet. Does that make any sense?

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[techtiger]

i understand... huh this should be a topic all on its own

[techtiger]

View it how you wish but i stumbled across this site... http://y-jesus.com/index.php
i thought it was interesting

[marcraft]

if we find other life i think itl be a frozen piece of dna on a fucking rock somewhere, not sentient.

[Shanx]

oh and 2012 planet x thats illogical a planet almost the size of our sun would mean our solar system would be vastly different.

Planet X is a brown dwarf star or somthing

[meat]

well were not ready at all. were too dumb and violent. lets say aleins come to our planet, then obviously theyre more advanced because they were able to bulid things to transport themselves all the way to earth. they would be able to manipulate us and possibly just take us all over. if, in the future, were able to bulid things to find them before they find us, we will be more advanced than them. usually when humans know theyre better than something they treat it.. bad. well never be ready to encounter them. no matter what well fuck it up.

[RAV]

Just watch the movie The Day The Earth Stood Still Aliens coming would be bad for the world as we know it. If they landed in America all the other countries would wonder why not them, and riot. Also, vise versa. The general population is Muslim (Christian in America). With an alien coming many people's faith would shatter. The military would try to kidnap and interrogate the alien because that race has figured out a way to exceed the speed of light (~3 x 10^8Meters per second if anyone was wondering) and our scientists have not even come close to this. Or they had traveled for many centuries.
Riots would start and eventually the alien would be murdered which would create more riots. There would be wars over the technology and every country would fight against each other, catastrophically throwing us into a world war, which would probably end in the destruction of the technology anyways.
Also, as humans being so nationalistic any technology recovered would be used to wage war against another country.
Some bacteria could kill them because if they did cure all know diseases that means that there are no more disease causing bacteria or viruses on their planet, meaning that none are immune to anything, because it would be a waste to create a cure for something that no longer exists. As is the case of various diseases today, did you get a polio shot?
There are countless reasons why they would not visit. My logical guess is that we are not ready and they do not want to create a global disaster.

Fact of the day: There have been sightings in every part of the world but only Americans believe that they have been abducted by aliens.

[Shanx]

Fact of the day: There have been sightings in every part of the world but only Americans believe that they have been abducted by aliens.

I'm not saying your wrong because I wouldn't know but, how did you come up with the "fact" that only Americans have claimed to be abducted by aliens? I actually watched a guy on youtube talk about being abducted a while ago and hes from the UK. (Its actually pretty interesting because he has a series of videos. I think I posted one somewhere o here too.

[Spyre]

I think if we're ready depends on a lot of stuff.

1: Where they land-Some goverments and cultures would react differently

2: How many-A whole army would make people scared shitless while only 1 would probably get captured by the FBI

3: What they look like-Pretty much the same outcome as #2. Huge aliens + Huge weapons = people scared shitless.

4: How they react to us-If they are hostile, theres gonna be a war and we will most likely lose. If they are peaceful, then they would be judged by #2 and #3.

5: What situation the world is in-A world war would mean everyone would want the aliens to take their side. A global hunger crisis or something would make people beg them to help.

But humans are very unpredictable and theres no real way to tell what we are going to do. I think we will never be ready for contact, but if it happens, just hope no one screws everything up.

[RAV]

The source of the fact was from a Popular Science magazine where they were talking about aliens, ghosts, and other weird events, arguing if it was things like the EMF of the earth or the evidence that shows proof of these events.
It was about a year ago that i saw this magazine and the facts could have easily changed, because someone did not admit to it before.

[Shanx]

The source of the fact was from a Popular Science magazine where they were talking about aliens, ghosts, and other weird events, arguing if it was things like the EMF of the earth or the evidence that shows proof of these events.
It was about a year ago that i saw this magazine and the facts could have easily changed, because someone did not admit to it before.

only a year ago? i thought that people would have said sooner. unless the mag didnt hear from them i guess......w/e i dont know where im going.

[crazyassmetalhead]

well it all comes down to what people do when they discover even friendly benign new life.... i mean look at biologists and such "wow what a great new discovery, such a beautiful specimen"... then they kill it and cut it open

as for the not so friendly encounters with new creatures..... we try to kill it

and for our encounters with eachother for the most part on a large scale....
cultures only seem to come together and have an appreciation for eachother when they're in the process of killing eachother

i think of aliens as being fishermen (if they exist) and us being fish.... i heard a comedian say this so u can probably guess where this is going........ya (started off almost intelligent then kinda turned into rambling bullshit)

[ItsAPoorlyKeptSecret]

i think no matter what anyone had said before this post and will say after this, that hello??? where did you get this shit from?? i dont think your first words brainwashing where "hey you have been imprinted with shit since you could first remember your first rememberance (if thats a word) all i have to say is i believe more then 75% of the shit people have said here but that i have also live in the same lifetime as the rest of you so whos to say that the shit you are overflowing about with this and that "unique" frame of mind wasnt planted there from something you have heard or things you just yourself planted so in one quick sum up i think we are ALL full of bullshit (even me) and should just accept we have no idea in a different sort of "i am one of a kind point of veiw" and just accept that we or another have thought/hear/seend it once before.

should let it go to just, think that if there was any other lifeform out there why does it have to be that "they" come to us. that they are an "intelligent life force" and are "smarter" when we could very well just be the last "dumbasses" or just "ahead of the curb"

what if some "alien" did come to us. what if it wasnt cause they were smarter or knew of us from the beginning but becasue of something so incoherent that they just happen to stumble upon us just like that now explaination but of a mere "accident."

its just when we think how ahead of the curb we or they are its all bullshit everything we do say or think is bullshit.

i dont care if i am drunk at the moment and admit to it. its true and i will not back down from that we should all just die, and that that is the only way we will all get anywhere in live. But seeing as how all of mankinad isn't within reach, been raise within the same environment.... are we to say wheather we believe this that, think this or that, know this or that, so unless we can learn to live and know EVERYONE inside out then


FUCK YOU!!!!!! and your questions, frame of life, and any other diference i forgot or couldnt possilby imagine to exist

ps. deo if you delete this could you first copy and paste this to me throught private message i would like to remember this tomorrow haha or send a reminder to me of what i just said so i cant feel very ashamed cause isnt that what people feel when they think they were right then know they are different, feel ashame that thats not what others wanted LETS JUST KILL THE WORLD then we will know for sure everything we ever wanted to know even if it isnt "us" who recieves the answers but nothing more then an alien "archologist" poor some poor bastard who survived the end of the world

[numerator-91]

what? .

[Spyre]

that has to be.....THE greatest drunk rant i have ever heard in my entire life.

[a2thae]

I wonder how long it took him to type that.

"are we to say wheather we believe this that, think this or that, know this or that, so unless we can learn to live and know EVERYONE inside out"

We do it in bits and pieces, not all at once. Science doesn't answer everything instantaneously; studies and experiments take time, begin at different times, and take varying lengths of time.

That's all I am going to reply to from that post.

[ItsAPoorlyKeptSecret]

HAHA no more drinkin and typing for me

I wonder how long it took HER to type that.

"are we to say wheather we believe this that, think this or that, know this or that, so unless we can learn to live and know EVERYONE inside out"

We do it in bits and pieces, not all at once. Science doesn't answer everything instantaneously; studies and experiments take time, begin at different times, and take varying lengths of time.

That's all I am going to reply to from that post.

yea not sure but i think what i was goin for at that point was unless we could learn everything simulatiously then we are all full of bullshit you kno...

the fact that we have to do it in bits and pieces, to me its like starting out with a great idea but then it just slowly snowballs into a giant piece of crap

[exial]

i think no matter what anyone had said before this post and will say after this, that hello??? where did you get this shit from?? i dont think your first words brainwashing where "hey you have been imprinted with shit since you could first remember your first rememberance (if thats a word) all i have to say is i believe more then 75% of the shit people have said here but that i have also live in the same lifetime as the rest of you so whos to say that the shit you are overflowing about with this and that "unique" frame of mind wasnt planted there from something you have heard or things you just yourself planted so in one quick sum up i think we are ALL full of bullshit (even me) and should just accept we have no idea in a different sort of "i am one of a kind point of veiw" and just accept that we or another have thought/hear/seend it once before.

should let it go to just, think that if there was any other lifeform out there why does it have to be that "they" come to us. that they are an "intelligent life force" and are "smarter" when we could very well just be the last "dumbasses" or just "ahead of the curb"

what if some "alien" did come to us. what if it wasnt cause they were smarter or knew of us from the beginning but becasue of something so incoherent that they just happen to stumble upon us just like that now explaination but of a mere "accident."

its just when we think how ahead of the curb we or they are its all bullshit everything we do say or think is bullshit.

i dont care if i am drunk at the moment and admit to it. its true and i will not back down from that we should all just die, and that that is the only way we will all get anywhere in live. But seeing as how all of mankinad isn't within reach, been raise within the same environment.... are we to say wheather we believe this that, think this or that, know this or that, so unless we can learn to live and know EVERYONE inside out then


FUCK YOU!!!!!! and your questions, frame of life, and any other diference i forgot or couldnt possilby imagine to exist

ps. deo if you delete this could you first copy and paste this to me throught private message i would like to remember this tomorrow haha or send a reminder to me of what i just said so i cant feel very ashamed cause isnt that what people feel when they think they were right then know they are different, feel ashame that thats not what others wanted LETS JUST KILL THE WORLD then we will know for sure everything we ever wanted to know even if it isnt "us" who recieves the answers but nothing more then an alien "archologist" poor some poor bastard who survived the end of the world

Oh my God......what are you on?

[RAV]

Well there is the belief that the universe is infinite and ever expanding. Also, the universe is pretty much uniform. This means that there should be an infinite amount of other civilizations. Everything that could have happened has happened. Everything that is going to happen has happened. If you want to argue that space does not have infinite time and thus they could be the exact same stage as us then pay attention to relativity. Some of these other galaxies and solar systems are moving at a faster rate than we are. This means that time travels faster. This means they become more advanced because relatively time seems the same for them and us but they are moving faster.

Also, it is more fun to think that they have come here, as we will go there when we have the technology. Also, I doubt we are the most intelligent life form, as so many want to believe.

Once again to reiterate the answer to the question, we are not ready. The whole world would collapse. Most of the world is Muslim, and most of the remaining population is Christian, only a few people in this world do not worship a god. Thus that alone would shatter everyone's belief. Morals would be lost. People would now think "why am I doing this now, I mean I won't get punished if I kill someone." And other things similar. People would scramble to try and prove that their religion is somehow true, but at-last they are no longer the only intelligent design (also creating a hatred similar to two brothers, one achieving more than the other). Also, where ever it landed would be significant. Country against country, asking itself why not me. Others laughing at others. Fights would break out. Also, PEOPLE ARE STUPID. Someone would be stupid and try to kill the alien. I mean really...do you think if a being can come at least 1.3 parsecs (this is the closest star and not the closest planet, let alone a planet suitable for life) that you could reasonably kill them? Or if it was one spaceship that they plan to take over the earth? Idiots...

Well those are the three things I could think of, I know there's a lot more because my friend and I came up with a list on this a while back, and it had about 20 things on it.

[superflysuperwhite]

heres my thing< are we ready? sure we've been waiting years.

the real question is. Are they ready?

let me explain, a race of lets say knowldge seeking peacefull aliens wanting to gain and spread knowldge come to earth.

all they have to do is turn on a tv to see HOW FUCKED UP WE ARE!
murders, rapes, torture, beastiality, canabilisim, war, anal plugs, the internet, rednecks, religious people, scientist risking there own planets existance to see if they can recreat the beggining of the univeres, dane cook, death metal, the kkk, terrorist, hobos, zoos, useing dead animals and plants to power almost everything (thats oil for the retards) retards, the list goes on.

see heres a few possible scenarios of what will happen when they get here(these are still the nice ones we're talking about)

1, we'll kill them.
2, theyll be like what the fuck. and leave
3, theyll abandon there peacfull ways and take us over, or just say fuck it and kill us all
4, point out whos obviously the smartest creatures on the planet, which wont be us
OR the most possible 5, they will give us there knowldege and we accept it apreciativly, this then gives us the power to make something amazing, and when we do, THE FUCKING DINOSUARS COME BACK!!!!! and fuck us in the ass while high-fiveing the aliens for their help.

or this one which is also pretty pluasible too 6, their amazing knowldged filld heads will explode at the sheer stupidity and fuck-upidness of this planets aparent top life form.

WE FUCK THE DEAD PEOPLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!








also RAV you're wrong chritianity is the most practiced religion, then islam (muslims follow islam for the slower folk out there) and your whole theory soley depends on whether or not these alians believe in "God" too not saying which "God" but "god" none the less

[RAV]

There is this book called the Visitors, and in it these aliens come and I think they take trees or something that we have abundance of (this book was written a while back, before there were a lot of environmentalists) and they made these flying cars that would run forever and had no pollution, in gratitude for letting them use our resources. Well this puts hundreds of millions of people out of work. Because of oil, gas stations, car makers, mechanics, and many other jobs. Well the point is that they did not, or it is implied that they did not, want to destroy the earth but were doing a favor.
It could be possible now. Any technology that they give us could easily outdate many of our current technologies. This would put many people out of jobs and destroy the economy. Also, we do not learn it ourselves. If someone gave you..say, an anti-gravity machine you may be able to reverse engineer it and build it but you would probably not know how it works. The process of getting there is what makes inventions so great. We need to understand how they work. If we know how something works we can improve on it, because we will advance our knowledge. The jet-plane was not built before the propeller plane. If it was then we would not have planes with propellers. We would not know how such a device might work, and we could not advance it. It is a step by step. Maybe when we achieve a highly developed world then they will come and help us understand new things that are not so far out of our reach. Like putting two propellers on one plane. How to shape the wings differently and so on. These are little steps that they could help us and explain why they work. I mean if I said see this grape that you have it can become wine, and never explaining how to distill and dry and age it. It becomes useless. It makes us useless, and them all powerful. I doubt that an advanced society would do this. They may have a galactic council watching us and waiting, maybe giving little hints at a time. Either way we will not know till it happens, or does not happen.

[BASSic]

America would nuke the f*** out of em, and destroy the world in the process